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[Insight] Identi.ca hookup
by Paul W. Frields 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Here is some use case information for the Identi.ca feed hookup: * I'm interested in @Fedora status messages. RIGHT NOW: I don't know where Fedora's Identi.ca feed is. But if I take a wild guess and use http://identi.ca/fedora fortunately that's the right one.[1] SHINY FUTURE: On the Insight page there's an easy to see block that says Fedora Speaks! with easy links to the Identi.ca and Twitter feeds. The Twitter feed is de-emphasized a bit, which encourages me to look at Identi.ca if I don't know what it is. But fortunately Fedora respects the fact that I'm already on Twitter so I can easily follow them, whichever I decide to use. WIN: Tiny/medium EFFORT: Small, just an RSS feed and a bit of appropriate graphics and hyperlinks in a block. * I'm a member of the Fedora Marketing subteam that works on social networking stuff, and I want to put a message on our Identi.ca and Twitter feeds. RIGHT NOW: I share the account password with lots of people. (That works OK, but it worries me that someone might get access to my data.) I visit our identi.ca page, log in, and set a status. The status automatically echoes to Twitter too. SHINY FUTURE: I login to Insight, and there's a menu choice for "Set Identi.ca/Twitter status". When I select it, I'm prompted for a 140-character maximum message. When I select Forward, the system asks me to confirm the content. Once I select Confirm, the status is posted to Identi.ca and then echoes automatically to Twitter via Identi.ca's built-in functionality. WIN: Medium/huge EFFORT: May be small, since the 100% all-FOSS brdcst.it service can take an RSS feed of status from anywhere and post it out to other services such as Identi.ca. * I'm a member of the Fedora Marketing subteam that works on social networking stuff, and I want to reply to an Identi.ca or Twitter user. RIGHT NOW: (see shared password above, then...) I visit either Identi.ca or Twitter and click a link to find out if @fedora has been mentioned. Then I reply in the WebUI to reply to the message. SHINY FUTURE: I login to Insight, and there's a menu choice to see mentions of @fedora on Identi.ca/Twitter. When I select one, I have the option to reply to the message using the appropriate service, as above. * * * [1] Leaving aside the question of whether our feeds should show up on the fp.o home page. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Insight] Meeting recap 2011-06-28 UTC 2000
by Paul W. Frields 28 Jun '11

28 Jun '11

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-28/insight.2011-06-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-28/insight.2011-06-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-28/insight.2011-06-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call! (stickster, 20:00:19) * Action item review! (stickster, 20:05:13) * ACTION: hiemanshu Pull calendar ideas from our email discussion threads and previous meeting notes into a wiki page so we can edit them easier (stickster, 20:08:22) * ACTION: stickster Send email to list on user cases for identi.ca feed idea (ALMOST DONE!) (stickster, 20:10:28) * tatica was added to cmsadmin group already (stickster, 20:10:41) * ACTION: stickster Summarize podcast info to list (stickster, 20:10:53) * Ticket review (stickster, 20:13:17) * LINK: http://ur1.ca/3suhg <-- Fedora Insight trac issues (stickster, 20:13:19) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2693 (stickster, 20:14:33) * ACTION: stickster try asrob's experimental basic-insight-features branch with features_extra module installed, to see if it works (stickster, 20:22:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2716 <-- needs +1 to go forward (stickster, 20:25:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2713 <-- move to mediawiki_api (stickster, 20:33:31) * LINK: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/drupal6-mediawiki_api-0-0.2… (stickster, 20:34:33) * ACTION: asrob test mediawiki_api function for ticket #2713 (stickster, 20:41:22) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2100 <-- mobile site/CSS (stickster, 20:42:12) * ACTION: asrob package mobile_tools and file bug to block InsightReviews (stickster, 20:46:09) * All other business (AOB) (stickster, 20:49:01) * averi will not be able to work on Fedora Insight further with us -- he is actually stepping down as a contributor for now but wishes everyone the best (stickster, 20:49:58) Meeting ended at 20:52:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * hiemanshu Pull calendar ideas from our email discussion threads and previous meeting notes into a wiki page so we can edit them easier * stickster Send email to list on user cases for identi.ca feed idea (ALMOST DONE!) * stickster Summarize podcast info to list * stickster try asrob's experimental basic-insight-features branch with features_extra module installed, to see if it works * asrob test mediawiki_api function for ticket #2713 * asrob package mobile_tools and file bug to block InsightReviews Action Items, by person ----------------------- * asrob * stickster try asrob's experimental basic-insight-features branch with features_extra module installed, to see if it works * asrob test mediawiki_api function for ticket #2713 * asrob package mobile_tools and file bug to block InsightReviews * hiemanshu * hiemanshu Pull calendar ideas from our email discussion threads and previous meeting notes into a wiki page so we can edit them easier * stickster * stickster Send email to list on user cases for identi.ca feed idea (ALMOST DONE!) * stickster Summarize podcast info to list * stickster try asrob's experimental basic-insight-features branch with features_extra module installed, to see if it works * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (76) * asrob (38) * zodbot (5) * hiemanshu (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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FAS in L10N workflow
by Misha Shnurapet 23 Jun '11

23 Jun '11

Hello. I'd like to discuss the current L10N new member registration process. From my own experience I see it's somewhat discouraging for the newcomers considering the number of steps described in the old guides [1] [2] and inherited by the newer one [3], currently being worked on. These could loose a few pounds. The actual number of steps it takes before one can start altering files is less (for instance, Transifex doesn't require members' SSH and GPG keys, but I was creating them two years ago because I thought these were mandatory, I never used them for translations). Since the L10N workflow moved to Transifex, I'd like to know if it's still mandatory for the new translators to sign up for a FAS account. AFAIK Transifex has its own instance of FPCA form as well. The new guides could reflect the changes and provide a simpler registration howto. [4] [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N [2] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1/html… [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide [4] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2011-June/009056.html -- Best regards, Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor Email: shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, IRC: misha on freenode https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/shnurapet, GPG: 00217306

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[Insight] Work slowage, my confession
by Paul W. Frields 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

This past week has been extraordinarily busy for me at $DAYJOB and I'm going to need more help (and extra time) to get Insight tasks done. Here's the last list of action items from our previous meeting: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-14/insight.2011-06-… For instance, it would be great if someone would volunteer to pull the calendar ideas into a wiki page that would be easier for us to edit and work with. Also, tatica needs to apply for the "cmsadmin" group so someone can sponsor her. Then she'll be able to help with the theme problem on the Blocks administration menu page, which we discussed in the last meeting. I'm a little wary of having our regular meeting tomorrow since I can't in good conscience say we've made much progress since then. But I'd like to see that change in time for next week. :-) What do other participants think? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Re: [Design-team] What to do with start.fp.o?
by Sijis Aviles 20 Jun '11

20 Jun '11

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Misha Shnurapet < shnurapet(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > 18.06.2011, 05:24, "Sijis Aviles" <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org>: > > I wanted to start a discussion on what is the goal/purpose for > start.fedoraproject.org. There has been some push on redesigning and > freshening up its 'look and feel' which some of that work has been > completed. However, the problem is we need to answer what is the purpose of > start.fp.o?. Without answering this question, we can't redesign it without > having a target audience in mind. > > I got some very thoughtful responses. Here are some of my thoughts around them: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: > * call for participation (something like "What would you like to improve: etc."), list of burning community tasks I think having some feedback on how to improve Fedora is great. My only thought is the 'start' page really the best place for that? If this is the first time i've used Fedora, how would I know what it should improve in. This also leads into a question... do users actually keep the site start.fp.o as a default page after their first FF launch? On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > Some ideas: > * Integrate bits of Insight in to it (iframes, or something more elegant?) We currently try to integrate some of the stuff in lists.fp.o and planet. Once Insight is fully implemented it can be added too. > * Create onramps for people to get involved in Fedora Yes. We surely want folks to contribute to the project. We already have join.fp.o (which is just a redirect). Maybe she should highlight that stuff more in other places too? On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Personally I think a page of tutorials like "HOW TO USE THE FEDORA DESKTOP" would be a good thing. Heck make it part of the release process. If you want something to be included as a feature for release N+1 it needs to have material to be added to start. This is an interesting thought. It reminds me of a 'how to get started' type thing, which is what ideally start.fp.o should be. We already have some tutorials written but there is so much community driven content out there that we should be able to point to them as resources for users. This definitely keeps the content writing ourselves to a minimum. What I don't understand is what you mean by "make it part of the release process". Are you referring to make it parts of the docs/marketing/websites beta/alpha/ga release processes? And who will own this? Sijis

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Re: Removing cla Prerequisite from some hosted groups
by Paul W. Frields 17 Jun '11

17 Jun '11

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:44:17PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Greetings all, > > As you may have been made aware, the Fedora Project has recently switched > From the Fedora Individual Contributor License Agreement (ICLA) to the > Fedora Project Contributor Agreement (FPCA). We have reached the deadline > for current contributors to have signed the new FPCA and are working to > remove users who have signed the ICLA but not the FPCA from Fedora Groups > where they must have signed the FPCA. > > In looking through the list of groups that are affected, we noticed that > many of the affected groups are fedorahosted groups. Fedorahosted groups do > not have a requirement to sign the FPCA from our side; the individual > projects may make their contributors sign our contributor agreement, their > own contributor agreement, or no contributor agreement at all. In most > cases, we believe that these hosted groups were created with a default of > signing our contributor agreement and then never changed. > > In order to minimize the disruption that Fedora switching from the ICLA to > the FPCA will cause, we have removed the need for members of these groups to > have signed the FPCA(list of groups attached). This will allow those > members to remain in the hosted groups unless futher action is taken. > > If you do want to require all of your contributors to have a contributor > agreement[1]_ with the Fedora Project, then you may follow these instructions > for re-adding that as a requirement. > > == Requiring that a Fedora contributor agreement has been signed == > > 1) Make sure that you, at least, have signed the FPCA (or another valid > contributor agreement) so there is at least one administrator in the > group who has signed the FPCA. > 2) Go to https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ > 3) Click the login link and login using your fas username and password > 4) Click on the new ticket link > 5) Create a ticket of Type: change > 6) In the body of the ticket, state that you wish to have everyone who is > not in the cla_done group removed from this group and have future group > members sign the FPCA in order to be added. > 7) Set the Component to "Hosted Projects" > 8) Submit the ticket. > > A member of the infrastructure team will process the request. > > In the future these steps will likely be integrated into the Fedora Account > System Web interface but currently the ticketing process is required as an > infrastructure member has to do some steps manually. > > _[1]: Note that this includes the CLA's signed by certain corporations on > behalf of their employees contributing to the Fedora Project as well as the > FPCA. [...snip...] > gitfedora-insight-theme Given this project is by Fedora/for Fedora, it's probably a good idea for us to require FPCA for contributions. Thoughts on that? > gitfedora-zikula > gitfedora-zikula-theme These are actually deprecated, so I'm not really concerned about them. Perhaps these should be retired as dead projects though? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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What to do with start.fp.o?
by Sijis Aviles 17 Jun '11

17 Jun '11

Hi all, I wanted to start a discussion on what is the goal/purpose for start.fedoraproject.org. There has been some push on redesigning and freshening up its 'look and feel' which some of that work has been completed. However, the problem is we need to answer what is the purpose of start.fp.o?. Without answering this question, we can't redesign it without having a target audience in mind. I think that this site can be a very visible, since that's one of the two sites that load upon launching FF for the first time. Currently I feel that it lacks a purpose and its sorta out there with no target in mind. My current view is to do something like a '1 page release notes' or 'New things in Fedora X' type thing, something very simple and only 1 page. The other idea is to just drop the site completely and/or use fp.o. Here is a link to a few unorganized ideas about the redesign [1]. Any ideas/suggestion/thoughts? Thanks, Sijis [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Start.fpo_redesign

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[Insight] Run update.php
by Peter Borsa 17 Jun '11

17 Jun '11

Hi! Paul, can you run update.php on http://insight.fedoraproject.org? Database updates are out of date and "Some modules have database schema updates to install. You should run the database update script immediately." ;) -- Peter

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[Insight] Meeting recap, 2011-06-14 UTC 2000
by Paul W. Frields 14 Jun '11

14 Jun '11

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-14/insight.2011-06-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-14/insight.2011-06-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-14/insight.2011-06-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 20:00:09) * Last week's action items (stickster, 20:05:34) * ACTION: averi check and set a backup profile on the insight01.dev host (stickster, 20:05:54) * ACTION: averi Do a use case explanation for podcast announcement idea (stickster, 20:06:10) * ACTION: stickster Do an email to list on user-centric ideas for the identi.ca feed idea (stickster, 20:06:18) * Deferring all these another week... but they will get done! (stickster, 20:06:43) * Use case reviews (stickster, 20:07:05) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2011-June/001336.html (stickster, 20:08:31) * ACTION: stickster consolidate email thread on calendar use cases in to a wiki page that's easier to review (stickster, 20:14:57) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2011-June/001332.html (stickster, 20:16:59) * AGREED: Insight accepts stuff for purposes of marketing Fedora, and the content reflects that purpose. (stickster, 20:37:24) * AGREED: To do media attachments, we'll work out a way of uploading/storing things so that we can assure licensing and availability, and work with Infra to use resources appropriately. (stickster, 20:41:46) * ACTION: stickster Send summary of #agreed stuff to list regarding podcast attachments (stickster, 20:52:25) * Open floor (stickster, 20:52:30) * ACTION: stickster add tatica to cmsadmin FAS group so she can see theme problems more easily (stickster, 20:56:49) Meeting ended at 20:57:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ * averi check and set a backup profile on the insight01.dev host * averi Do a use case explanation for podcast announcement idea * stickster Do an email to list on user-centric ideas for the identi.ca feed idea * stickster consolidate email thread on calendar use cases in to a wiki page that's easier to review * stickster Send summary of #agreed stuff to list regarding podcast attachments * stickster add tatica to cmsadmin FAS group so she can see theme problems more easily Action Items, by person ----------------------- * averi * averi check and set a backup profile on the insight01.dev host * averi Do a use case explanation for podcast announcement idea * stickster * stickster Do an email to list on user-centric ideas for the identi.ca feed idea * stickster consolidate email thread on calendar use cases in to a wiki page that's easier to review * stickster Send summary of #agreed stuff to list regarding podcast attachments * stickster add tatica to cmsadmin FAS group so she can see theme problems more easily * tatica * stickster add tatica to cmsadmin FAS group so she can see theme problems more easily * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (98) * pcalarco (29) * tatica (28) * asrob (17) * hiemanshu (13) * zodbot (6) * averi (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Fedora Insight podcast integration idea
by Peter Borsa 14 Jun '11

14 Jun '11

Hi! So here are some starting questions regarding the podcast integration idea for Insight, solicited on our Phase 2 project plan[2]. PLEASE ADD MORE! Don't bother worrying about how much work it will take to make it happen, this is just about identifying or brainstorming an ideal situation. We can break it down into work details later! :-) So, here is the questions... * What would you like to attach to an article or story? video and/or audio files and/or something else? * Would you like to listen to the attached podcasts? * Would you like to download podcasts? * Add more here... -- Peter

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