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Re: FAmNA: SELF Brainstorming Meeting on April 15
by inode0 15 Apr '12

15 Apr '12

====================================== #fedora-meeting: SELF planning meeting ====================================== Meeting started by rbergeron at 23:03:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-15/self_planning_me… . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda and who's here (rbergeron, 23:03:54) * Idea List (inode0, 23:06:19) * IDEA: HOT DOG PARTY (rbergeron, 23:07:00) * IDEA: Hot Dog Cart - related to HOT DOG PARTY (inode0, 23:07:25) * IDEA: Collect Food (probably not Hot Dogs) for local food pantry (inode0, 23:08:18) * IDEA: Raffle of some sort in general or in connection to the food drive (inode0, 23:08:53) * IDEA: DO NOT GIVE AWAY AN IPAD (rbergeron, 23:09:22) * IDEA: build your own hot dog (beefy miracle) with a slew of toppings and name it (could win prize for best names/topping combos) at party (graphite6, 23:09:26) * IDEA: beefy miracle tattoos or stickers (rbergeron, 23:10:59) * IDEA: beefy miracle banner for the booth (inode0, 23:11:24) * IDEA: Hot Dog Cannon (inode0, 23:12:13) * IDEA: drink cosi's (things that keep bottles cold) - if do a hot dog party/cart/BBQ type thing (graphite6, 23:12:36) * IDEA: get the wienermobile to show up (rbergeron, 23:13:41) * LINK: http://www.myheinz.com (rbergeron, 23:18:24) * IDEA: customized bottles of heinz mustard (custom labels) (rbergeron, 23:18:36) * IDEA: day one, give away packets of ketchup, day two give away packets of mustard, day three, if you have both ketchup and mustard, you get a free beefy miracle! (herlo, 23:19:10) * IDEA: hot dog stress relievers (hand squeezers) (rbergeron, 23:21:04) * LINK: http://www.motivators.com/Promotional-Custom-HotdogStressBall-11593.html (rbergeron, 23:21:39) * IDEA: if do hot dog party, provide some lawn games for people to play? (graphite6, 23:24:29) * Hot Dog Party (inode0, 23:26:31) * LINK: http://www.loavesandfishes.org/ (inode0, 23:32:15) * AGREED: HOT DOG PARTY (inode0, 23:39:04) * ACTION: rbergeron to talk to SELF folks, possibly via ruth, to expore all options for Dog Serving (rbergeron, 23:43:18) * AGREED: try to have a food drive to support a local food pantry in Charlotte (inode0, 23:46:45) * additional swag (rbergeron, 23:50:05) * additional swag could also be "exchange a can for $swag" (or exchange for a ticket for $bigswag) (rbergeron, 23:50:30) * wienermobile (inode0, 00:09:16) * AGREED: Beefy Miracle Buttons (inode0, 00:18:45) Meeting ended at 00:19:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * rbergeron to talk to SELF folks, possibly via ruth, to expore all options for Dog Serving Action Items, by person ----------------------- * rbergeron * rbergeron to talk to SELF folks, possibly via ruth, to expore all options for Dog Serving * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rbergeron (122) * inode0 (75) * graphite6 (38) * award3535 (27) * herlo (24) * zodbot (4) John

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Fwd: [Ambassadors] APAC Ambassadors meeting 2012-04-14 minutes
by Truong Anh Tuan 14 Apr '12

14 Apr '12

FYI. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Arif Tri Waluyo" <arifiauo(a)fedoraproject.org> To: ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:56:14 PM Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC Ambassadors meeting 2012-04-14 minutes Hi, Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-… Meet you again next week: Saturday, April 21th at 04:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting Regards, Arif Tri Waluyo -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-04-12)
by Kevin Fenzi 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-04-12) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 20:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Robot Roll Call (nirik, 20:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 20:02:52) * two factor auth status (nirik, 20:04:27) * Staging re-work status (nirik, 20:08:21) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 20:08:53) * LINK: http://gitorious.org/sticky-notes/sticky-notes/ (nirik, 20:10:47) * LINK: http://paste.kde.org/ (nirik, 20:11:07) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 20:27:37) * Open Floor (nirik, 20:32:44) Meeting ended at 20:37:47 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (91) * mdomsch (29) * herlo (15) * smooge (9) * zodbot (8) * skvidal (7) * CodeBlock (5) * nb (4) * abadger1999 (4) * athmane (3) * wolfkit (3) * lmacken (2) * ianweller (1) * threebean (1) * adrianhannah (1) * kwame (1) * ricky (0) * dgilmore (0) * Codeblock (0) -- 20:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-04-12) 20:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 12 20:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 20:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 20:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call 20:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 20:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 20:00:07 * skvidal is here 20:00:25 * adrianhannah here 20:00:28 * lmacken 20:00:30 * abadger1999 here 20:00:31 * athmane is around 20:00:33 * mdomsch 20:00:36 * kwame is here o/ 20:00:52 * CodeBlock here 20:01:09 * wolfkit is here 20:01:17 * nirik waits another minute for folks to wander in 20:02:12 * herlo is here 20:02:48 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in... 20:02:52 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 20:02:53 <nirik> 20:02:53 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices 20:02:53 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. anyone? 20:03:33 <smooge> is here. 20:03:59 <nirik> I'll note there's at least one apprentice ticket waiting for me to comment. I'm going to try and get to it in the next few days... 20:04:25 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 20:04:27 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status 20:04:31 <nirik> any news here? 20:05:09 <skvidal> not much change 20:05:18 <skvidal> mricon is working on radius support for somethign for them for cisco vpn 20:05:24 <wolfkit> I've been quite busy and the latest rawhide grub2-efi / kernel updates have been playing up on my laptop so haven't been able to hack on it 20:05:33 <nirik> ok. 20:05:43 <nirik> anything we can do to help move it along? 20:06:09 <skvidal> I just need some time to sit down and focus on it, I suspect 20:06:21 <herlo> where are we stuck? 20:06:24 <nirik> ok. I'd be happy to help too.. .would love to get it going. 20:06:26 <skvidal> we're not stuck 20:06:32 * herlo hasn't been able to help in a while, wants to help again 20:06:37 <skvidal> there aren't any roadblocks afaik 20:06:42 <skvidal> it's more just integrate + test 20:06:42 <wolfkit> as do I, time seems to be my most shrinking resource, heh 20:06:42 <herlo> k 20:06:52 <nirik> wolfkit: always the way I fear. ;) 20:07:13 <nirik> ok, lets try and move it forward in the next week, revisit next meeting. 20:08:21 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status 20:08:28 <nirik> still waiting on freeze on this one... 20:08:41 <nirik> but the happy news is that we have a beta and freeze is over next week. :) 20:08:53 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 20:09:05 <nirik> any application news? 20:09:21 <CodeBlock> dpsearch is evil. That is all ;) -- I have emailed daMaestro asking for help, waiting for response. 20:09:31 <nirik> CodeBlock: ok, thanks. 20:09:53 <nirik> Oh, I have a bit of news on paste... I'm looking at sticky-notes as a possibly fpaste.org replacement server. 20:10:09 <nirik> it might work out and let us take over fpaste.org... 20:10:20 <ianweller> nirik: sticky-notes? 20:10:30 <nirik> It's php, but it has an upstream and they sound like they might be responsive. 20:10:47 <nirik> http://gitorious.org/sticky-notes/sticky-notes/ 20:11:06 <nirik> kde uses it. 20:11:07 <nirik> http://paste.kde.org/ 20:11:31 <CodeBlock> nirik: is there a CLI app for it? I could look at hacking one up if needed 20:11:32 <herlo> it looks pretty good 20:11:41 <nirik> pastebinit can talk to it apparently. 20:11:44 <nirik> (already in fedora) 20:11:56 <herlo> CodeBlock: the plan there was to maybe modify fpaste to take a configuration file 20:11:56 <smooge> cool 20:12:00 <herlo> nirik: good news! 20:12:13 * herlo thinks that's better anyway 20:12:19 <nirik> so, possibly we could work something with fpaste calling that or have pastebinit ship a fpaste wrapper or something. 20:12:26 <herlo> yeah 20:12:29 <herlo> easy to do 20:12:46 <nirik> pastebinit already defaults to fpaste.org in fedora too. 20:13:03 <herlo> we'll have to change something 20:13:14 <nirik> yeah. 20:13:19 <herlo> but we could address that later 20:13:22 <nirik> can burn that bridge when we come to it... 20:13:40 <nirik> abadger1999 / threebean / pingou / lmacken: any other app news from this week/upcoming? 20:13:48 <abadger1999> nothing upcoming 20:14:04 <threebean> still working on packaging for the message bus 20:14:23 * mdomsch has been hacking MM late at night 20:14:40 <nirik> mdomsch: oh, did you see we had another issue with mirrorlist_server last night... 20:14:42 <mdomsch> v1.4 in progress again, mostly works, needs more testing 20:14:46 <mdomsch> nirik: no... 20:14:47 * athmane reported two vuls to sticky-notes (see merge request), will check the admin console this weekend 20:15:07 <mdomsch> nirik: what now? 20:15:17 <nirik> mdomsch: started taking up memory and causing problems, but then we stopped it all and I tried to get some debugging and started it and it all started working again. 20:15:33 <mdomsch> ah - heisenbug 20:15:41 <nirik> I have no idea if it was a DOS or what was happening. ;( Have any debugging tips or info we can gather if it happens again? 20:15:58 <mdomsch> get a copy of /var/lib/mirrormanager/ 20:16:00 <nirik> athmane: yeah, dcr226 also mailed the author a pointer to your patches. ;) 20:16:12 <nirik> mdomsch: I have one from the last issue on april 2nd... 20:16:13 <mdomsch> so we can see if there's corruption of the netblock lists or the pickle 20:16:16 <lmacken> nirik: nothing upcoming, aside from finishing up the apps.fp.o/{packages,tagger} deployment, which I haven't had any cycles for lately 20:16:32 <nirik> mdomsch: bastion:~kevin/mirorrmanager.tar.xz 20:16:39 <athmane> nirik: feel free to ping me, if you need help with the deployment 20:16:52 <nirik> rorry, mirrormanager-2012-04-02.tar.xz is the file 20:17:02 <nirik> athmane: excellent. will do. 20:17:02 <mdomsch> I did spend considerable time teaching MM how to do database schema updates for various oddities not covered by SQLObject itself 20:17:02 <nb> nirik, so are we not planning on sticking with th current fpaste-server? 20:17:15 <mdomsch> particularly adding indexes 20:17:30 <herlo> nb: it's still a possibility, but there's a ton of work that needs to be put into fpaste-server before it's ready 20:17:45 <nirik> nb: we tried, but herlo and daMaestro both thought the hacks were too gross for a clean deployment, and they also were not really wanting to be an upstream for it... 20:18:02 <nb> oh ok 20:18:03 <herlo> I wasn't aware of the amount of work it would take and it's going to take some serious amount of time to hack upon it 20:18:11 <herlo> to get it into shape 20:18:38 <nirik> mdomsch: what does mirrorlist_server do? which part? anyhow, if you could look at that dump and/or suggest things for us to collect I can do that if it happens again. 20:19:06 <mdomsch> nirik: that's the URL endpoint that yum hits 20:19:20 <nirik> ok, so it could have been some kind of DOS... ? 20:19:22 <mdomsch> and that download.fp.o URLs hit to generate the redirect 20:19:26 <mdomsch> yes, could be a DOS 20:19:33 <mdomsch> though that'd be surprising 20:19:37 * nirik can try checking logs for unusual hits. 20:19:44 <nirik> yeah, it was odd. 20:19:55 <nirik> it happened on app01 first... caused it to crash. 20:20:03 <nirik> then a few minutes later the other apps started doing it too. 20:20:18 <mdomsch> normally when it does this, it means the communication path between apache wsgi app and mirrorlist_server.py app got interrupted 20:20:32 <mdomsch> and both sides go a little nuts waiting on the other 20:20:50 <mdomsch> but yes, pls check the proxy logs for spikes 20:20:57 <nirik> will do. 20:21:06 <mdomsch> I suspect it's a bug in mirrorlist_server.py somehow 20:21:24 <nirik> yeah, I tried to change 'log_file' and 'debug' but it didn't seem to do anything. ;( 20:21:24 <abadger1999> nirik: oh I took a look at the ipnetblocks file -- it's not corrupt although it is very big. 20:21:27 <mdomsch> that doesn't log output much if at all - and it's run by supervisor 20:21:34 <nirik> yeah 20:21:42 <mdomsch> yeah, these netblock lists look sane at a glance 20:21:53 <abadger1999> Loads fine using the same code as is in mirrormanager 20:22:06 <nirik> so there goes that theory. ;( 20:22:29 <mdomsch> the pickle has a much newer timestamp 20:22:37 <mdomsch> than the netblock lists 20:23:12 <mdomsch> anyhow - not obvious... 20:23:30 <mdomsch> page me if it happens again 20:23:38 <mdomsch> ideally while it's happening 20:23:54 <mdomsch> and look at ps auxgw | grep mirror 20:24:20 <mdomsch> to see what's there. normally there are a few mirrorlist_server.py processes there, 1 master plus one for each request in process 20:24:34 <nirik> mdomsch: ok. we do have OOM dumps in logs from the kernel if it helps any? 20:24:50 <mdomsch> if there are more than say 20, and if any are in S state, that's a problem 20:25:17 <mdomsch> it might, yes 20:26:19 <nirik> ok. can get you that. 20:26:33 <nirik> ok, any more app news? or shall we move on? 20:27:37 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-17 - F17 Beta Freeze 20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-04-17 - F17Beta release day 20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 - F17 Final Freeze. 20:28:34 <nirik> 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 20:28:34 <nirik> 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. 20:28:35 <nirik> 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet. 20:28:37 <nirik> 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 20:28:39 <nirik> 2012-05-22 - F17 release 20:28:44 <nirik> so beta comes out tuesday.. 20:29:03 <nirik> we have our usual release tickets we will need to act on once the trees are staged. 20:29:25 <nirik> .ticket 3218 20:29:27 <zodbot> nirik: #3218 (Fedora17 Beta - Verify mirror space) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3218 20:29:29 <nirik> .ticket 3219 20:29:30 <CodeBlock> nirik: safe tavels back in time to 2011 to remove gitweb-cache ;) 20:29:31 <zodbot> nirik: #3219 (Fedora17 Beta - new website) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3219 20:29:33 <nirik> .ticket 3220 20:29:35 <zodbot> nirik: #3220 (Fedora17 Beta - release day ticket) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3220 20:29:41 <nirik> .ticket 3221 20:29:43 <zodbot> nirik: #3221 (Fedora17 Beta - verify permissions on content) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3221 20:29:49 <nirik> CodeBlock: ha. Paying attention I see... 20:29:51 * nirik fixes 20:30:31 <nirik> anything else upcoming anyone would like to note or schedule? 20:31:04 <nirik> I've added a wiki page with our private cloud plans: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud 20:31:24 <nirik> we don't have concrete dates on it yet, but I can add them in when we have finalized hardware and such 20:32:23 <nirik> use ideas, suggestions or comments welcome on the list 20:32:44 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 20:32:50 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? 20:33:27 <nb> not i 20:33:40 <smooge> yay release 20:33:48 <nirik> nb: oh, any news on the keyserver thing? or haven't had a chance to try yet? 20:33:49 <smooge> not i 20:33:51 <smooge> oh wait 20:34:04 <CodeBlock> my online presence will be iffy tomorrow and the weekend of April 28th. Not schedule worthy, but just noting. 20:34:12 <nb> nirik, nope, not had time yet, just got pw yesterday 20:34:25 <nirik> nb: no worries. Will be interesting to see if it works 20:34:32 <smooge> I am currently working on removing ALL mailing list aliases from redhat.com -> lists.fedoraproject.org 20:34:40 <nirik> smooge: hurray! 20:34:52 <smooge> I will then work on moving epel and some other lists over to lists.fedoraproject.org 20:35:00 <smooge> which is always fun 20:35:30 <nirik> oh, I had another thing to note: We were going to migrate hosted monday, but postponed it. We want to shake out a timeout/failover issue with the new glusterfs setup before making it live. 20:35:38 <nirik> Hopefully we can migrate that next week or so. 20:37:01 <nirik> ok, if nothing else we can call it a meeting and get back to work. ;) 20:37:17 <smooge> call it 20:37:44 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 20:37:47 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-04-12)
by Kevin Fenzi 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-04-12) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:01) * Week in review (nirik, 17:01:55) * LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html (nirik, 17:01:55) * f17 beta out next week, expect more questions (nirik, 17:03:42) * Tickets (nirik, 17:04:41) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik, 17:04:41) * Request for ban removal in #fedora-social from DrManhattan (nirik, 17:04:58) * please file a ticket with info on the request. (nirik, 17:06:49) * if anyone sees them on-line please ask them to do so. (nirik, 17:07:01) * Open Floor (nirik, 17:07:41) Meeting ended at 17:18:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (37) * FranciscoD (20) * dcr226 (17) * Sonar_Gal (8) * EvilBob (7) * Southern_Gentlem (4) * zodbot (3) * pingou (1) -- 17:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-04-12) 17:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 12 17:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:12 <nirik> hey folks. who's around for a irc support sig meeting. 17:00:13 * Sonar_Gal passes out the bacon 17:00:42 * FranciscoD is here 17:00:47 * Sonar_Gal 17:00:56 * EvilBob 17:01:20 * dcr226 away for a couple of minutes, then be back 17:01:26 * dcr226 just so you know 17:01:29 * pingou 17:01:30 <Sonar_Gal> move it 17:01:31 * dcr226 incase you were wondering 17:01:34 <dcr226> ;-) 17:01:36 <nirik> knowing is half the battle. 17:01:53 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead. 17:01:55 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:01:55 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:02:04 * FranciscoD puts on some back in black for dcr226 's entry ;) 17:02:11 <nirik> anything from the last week anyone would like to note? 17:02:39 <FranciscoD> I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary 17:02:44 <FranciscoD> which is a good thing ;) 17:03:15 <nirik> there's been more f17 questions... 17:03:24 <nirik> and with beta out next tuesday we will get more. ;) 17:03:42 <nirik> #info f17 beta out next week, expect more questions 17:03:52 * FranciscoD will have beta running over the weekend to prepare for the questions ;) 17:04:34 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will move on... 17:04:41 <nirik> #topic Tickets 17:04:41 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:04:46 <nirik> we have no tickets this week 17:04:58 <nirik> #topic Request for ban removal in #fedora-social from DrManhattan 17:05:05 <nirik> this was passed to me from a 3rd party. 17:05:27 <nirik> I think we should ask them to file a ticket on this so folks not at the meeting can provide input. 17:05:55 <Sonar_Gal> +1 to the ticket 17:06:06 <EvilBob> We have the ticket system for a reason, it should be used. +1 17:06:07 <nirik> speaking for myself, also a ticket with apologies for past behavior and some promise to do better would be helpfull. 17:06:31 <nirik> if anyone has a way to contact them and tell them that it would be appreciated. I don't have an email for them... 17:06:48 <Sonar_Gal> Neither do I 17:06:49 <nirik> #info please file a ticket with info on the request. 17:07:01 <nirik> #info if anyone sees them on-line please ask them to do so. 17:07:02 <Sonar_Gal> He is banned in so many channels not easy to tell him anything 17:07:06 <nirik> right 17:07:41 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:07:45 <nirik> anything for open floor? 17:07:47 <EvilBob> Revisit the meeting following a ticket being failed by at least 5 days? 17:08:10 <nirik> EvilBob: not sure I follow, can you rephrase/ 17:08:32 <FranciscoD> nirik: it'll be good to remind everyone of the usual: be polite, patient, help out as much as you can without getting irritated 17:08:44 <FranciscoD> we've had some really busted systems come in 17:08:53 <EvilBob> A ticket filed on Wednesday night before the meeting does not allow for enough discussion 17:09:06 <FranciscoD> i almost hit my face against a wall helping out this one person :) 17:09:19 * dcr226 hits $(user)'s face against the wall 17:09:20 <nirik> EvilBob: right. should allow for a week unless there's some urgency 17:09:22 <dcr226> FranciscoD, try that 17:09:22 <EvilBob> I would think allowing for a ticket to be open for at least 5 days would allow for enough discussion 17:09:33 <nirik> FranciscoD: yeah... 17:09:39 <FranciscoD> dcr226: that's what I'm asking you to avoid ;) 17:09:45 <nirik> I've also noticed a rise in X-Y problems... 17:09:54 * dcr226 hits FranciscoD's face against a wall, avoiding the avoidance 17:10:08 <FranciscoD> XD 17:10:22 <FranciscoD> wall cracked dcr226 :P 17:10:29 <dcr226> personally, I think we should just keep eyes open for the "feeding frenzy" effect 17:10:36 <nirik> dcr226: also agreed. 17:10:50 <dcr226> not that I can think of any specifics to hand, just generally as ops, we should keep an eye out for it developing 17:10:51 <FranciscoD> feeding frenzy = spoon feeding? 17:10:53 <nirik> if someone is being helped, try not to jump in and confuse them with multiple suggestions at the same time. 17:11:05 <dcr226> FranciscoD, no, its like what nirik describes 17:11:10 <FranciscoD> ah, I'm guilty of that one. Southern_Gentlem corrected me for it. 17:11:11 <nirik> FranciscoD: no, too many cooks... telling a user too many things and they get confused. 17:11:11 <EvilBob> FranciscoD: too many cooks 17:11:21 <FranciscoD> aye, got it 17:11:24 * dcr226 can't resist the irony 17:11:28 <dcr226> FranciscoD, too many cooks 17:11:40 <dcr226> ;-) 17:11:41 <FranciscoD> Southern_Gentlem calls it "gang banging" ... 17:11:51 <dcr226> Heh, yeah I saw thayt 17:11:55 <nirik> heh. 17:12:01 <EvilBob> ;) 17:12:14 <FranciscoD> >.< 17:12:42 * Southern_Gentlem 17:12:53 <Southern_Gentlem> i can only call them as i see them 17:12:56 <dcr226> lol 17:13:58 <Southern_Gentlem> by calling it gang banging it got the helpers attention 17:13:58 <nirik> anyhow, will close out in a minute if nothing else. 17:14:26 <Sonar_Gal> Southern_Gentlem, true 17:14:31 <Sonar_Gal> wow Fast meeting 17:15:33 <dcr226> Sonar_Gal, this never usuallly happens to me ;-( 17:15:33 <FranciscoD> Southern_Gentlem: you'd have my attention even if you said "one person help" :P 17:15:36 <dcr226> ;-) 17:16:44 <Southern_Gentlem> FranciscoD, i wasnt worried aobut you it was the other person as well 17:17:10 <FranciscoD> hehe, alright 17:17:17 * FranciscoD doesnt mind at all 17:17:26 <FranciscoD> as long as i dont get booted ;) 17:18:24 <nirik> anyhow, thanks for coming everyone. 17:18:30 <nirik> #endmeeting

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[Marketing] Meeting Minute 2012-04-12
by Onuralp SEZER 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Fedora Videos Meeting Logs ; Thank you for all coming !!! Meeting ended Thu Apr 12 16:54:00 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/fedora-meeting.2… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/fedora-meeting.2… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/fedora-meeting.2… Next Meeting Date : May 3rd 2012 / Tuesday. -- ---------------------- Onuralp SEZER Fedora Ambassadors <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors> EMEA<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA>Member / Turkey Fedora Translations Turkish Team Member<https://fedora.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/team/tr/> Fedora KDE User (Smolt Report<http://www.smolts.org/client/show_all/pub_f8e3aacb-d047-4ff0-ad50-b91b2a6ec…> )

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FUDCon KL Meeting Minutes :: 2012-04-12
by Maverick 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Hey folks, Thanks for attending the FUDCon KL Planning Meeting (2012-04-12). Following is the meeting summary; Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-12/fudcon_kl_2012.… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-12/fudcon_kl_2012.… ======================== #fudcon-planning Meeting ======================== Meeting started by KageSenshi at 14:01:28 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-12/fudcon_kl_2012.… . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: agenda is here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-04-12 (KageSenshi, 14:01:47) * roll call (KageSenshi, 14:01:53) * announcements (KageSenshi, 14:03:36) * we've decided on the vendor for t-shirt, t-shirt price is at myr17 per unit (KageSenshi, 14:03:57) * harish is working on the ticket and hotel (KageSenshi, 14:04:11) * visa invitation letter have been sent to applicants who need it through their @fedoraproject.org email .. those who have yet to get it but need it, please buzz KageSenshi , MavJS or harish (KageSenshi, 14:05:12) * we also have got the rough prices for banner and swag .. designs to be decided (KageSenshi, 14:06:14) * review actions from last meeting (KageSenshi, 14:07:34) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-05/fudcon_kl_2012.… last meeting log (KageSenshi, 14:07:46) * eric have responded , fudpub dinner will be done at hotel sri petaling, myr45 per head .. we're going for 50 heads max .. (KageSenshi, 14:13:59) * Questions/Decisions (KageSenshi, 14:14:50) * ACTION: KageSenshi to check out what sticker design to produce for fudcon kl from existing sticker designs .. and check up the prices (KageSenshi, 14:21:56) * ACTION: MavJS to poke UCTI for goodie bag (KageSenshi, 14:29:22) * we'll be producing 170 t-shirts (KageSenshi, 14:40:52) * lanyard will be using black background, will be producing 250 units (KageSenshi, 14:52:31) * remove mug souvenir from budget .. use the money for something more useful (KageSenshi, 14:57:05) * ACTION: KageSenshi to get invoice of t-shirt, lanyard, and badges and get some cash from harish so that we can start producing it (KageSenshi, 14:59:34) * ACTION: KageSenshi to also check up price for producing stickers (KageSenshi, 14:59:57) * open floor (KageSenshi, 15:00:40) * rtnpro didnt get his invitation letter for visa , he asked to send to his gmail address instead (KageSenshi, 15:04:11) * Madam Tan of OSCC-MAMPU want to meet up with some of us, to ask what OSCC can help out (KageSenshi, 15:05:21) Meeting ended at 15:09:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ * KageSenshi to check out what sticker design to produce for fudcon kl from existing sticker designs .. and check up the prices * MavJS to poke UCTI for goodie bag * KageSenshi to get invoice of t-shirt, lanyard, and badges and get some cash from harish so that we can start producing it * KageSenshi to also check up price for producing stickers Action Items, by person ----------------------- * KageSenshi * KageSenshi to check out what sticker design to produce for fudcon kl from existing sticker designs .. and check up the prices * KageSenshi to get invoice of t-shirt, lanyard, and badges and get some cash from harish so that we can start producing it * KageSenshi to also check up price for producing stickers * MavJS * MavJS to poke UCTI for goodie bag * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * KageSenshi (175) * MavJS (67) * sweemeng (29) * udinnet (12) * zodbot (11) * vinz007 (9) * kulll (9) * FranciscoD (7) * meng (6) * rbergeron (5) * jsmith (4) -- Kind Regards, Maverick MavJS @ freenode.net https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mavjs http://mavjs.github.com 7BFA DB9D D509 94AC 115B 1A0E E435 A5E3 A738 392D

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i18n meeting summary (2012-04-12)
by Akira TAGOH 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by tagoh at 05:02:52 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-12/i18n.2012-04-12-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (tagoh, 05:03:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-04-12 (tagoh, 05:03:13) * F17 (tagoh, 05:07:39) * Input Methods (tagoh, 05:14:59) * Fonts and Rendering (tagoh, 05:25:13) * Open Floor (tagoh, 05:51:22) Meeting ended at 06:02:43 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tagoh (51) * pravins (11) * paragan (10) * juhp (7) * dingyichen (5) * zodbot (4) * anish_ (3) * epico_laptop (3) * dueno (2) * fujiwarat (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fedora 17 Beta is declared GOLD.
by Robyn Bergeron 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

At today's F17 Beta Go/No-Go meeting, the Fedora 17 Beta release was declared gold. F17 Beta will be released Tuesday, April 17, 2012. Thanks to everyone involved for pulling this one together and participating in the meetings, things came together well this week. :) For those interested in the details: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_no… Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_no… Full minutes follow below. Cheers, -Robyn ============================================ #fedora-meeting-1: F17 Beta go no go meeting ============================================ Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:32 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_no… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome, again (rbergeron, 21:06:00) * need clean bill of health on release blockers, testing done, etc. (rbergeron, 21:06:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804216 (tflink, 21:09:00) * AGREED: - 804216 - RejectedBlocker (beta) - This is a little nasty but it can be worked around by installing the langpacks manually post-install or enabling a network repo (tflink, 21:14:21) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412 (tflink, 21:14:51) * AGREED: - 811412 - RejectedBlocker - Respun lives from RC4.1 will be accepted for beta. Since RC4.1 is not affected by this bug, dropping as a blocker for F17 beta (tflink, 21:20:01) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811438 (tflink, 21:20:13) * AGREED: - 811438 - RejectedBlocker - The oversized KDE spins were a direct consequence of moving to livecd-creator 17.7. Since the lives from RC4.1 are using livecd-creator 17.3, this bug does not apply to beta and thus is not a beta blocker (tflink, 21:23:13) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810451 (tflink, 21:24:00) * this bug has been reported to be fixed, one contrary report seems to be talking about a different bug (tflink, 21:25:12) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test (tflink, 21:30:46) * test matrices (rbergeron, 21:30:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC4_Desktop (tflink, 21:35:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC4_Base (tflink, 21:39:35) * go or no go? (rbergeron, 21:41:07) * blockers clear, matrices green (rbergeron, 21:41:36) * AGREED: ship rc4 and 4.1, we are a go for beta on 17th (rbergeron, 21:44:05) * ACTION: rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at dentist (rbergeron, 21:44:29) * ACTION: adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight (rbergeron, 21:46:08) * HOORAY BETA (rbergeron, 21:46:52) Meeting ended at 21:48:46 UTC. Action Items ------------ * rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at dentist * adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight * rbergeron * rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at dentist * tflink * adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (64) * rbergeron (59) * adamw (47) * Viking-Ice (11) * brunowolff (10) * zodbot (7) * dgilmore (6) * spot (5) * nirik (4) * jsmith (4) * nb (3) * jskladan (1) * KookyMan (1) * bodhi_zazen (1) * gnafu (1) * robatino (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmSco meeting 2012-04-11 minutes
by Christoph Wickert 11 Apr '12

11 Apr '12

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-11/famsco.2012-04-1… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-11/famsco.2012-04-1… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-11/famsco.2012-04-1… Meet you again next week Wednesday, April 18th at 22:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting! Regards, Christoph ================================== #fedora-meeting: FAmSCo 2012-04-11 ================================== Meeting started by cwickert at 22:00:40 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-11/famsco.2012-04-1… . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy#Digest (inode0, 22:44:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Members (inode0, 22:53:29) Meeting ended at 23:53:22 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cwickert (177) * herlo (91) * inode0 (64) * kaio (47) * igorps (26) * kk4ewt (20) * nb (12) * zodbot (6)

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Fedora Board Meeting Minutes 2012-04-11
by Christoph Wickert 11 Apr '12

11 Apr '12

Fedora Board Phone Meeting Minutes:: 2012-04-11 When: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 @ 18:30 UTC Where: Phone Meeting Invitees: * Guillermo Gomez * Jon Stanley * Rudi Landmann * Rex Dieter Attendees: * Christoph Wickert * David Nalley * Robyn Bergeron * Peter Robinson * Toshio Kuratomi * Jaroslav Reznik (on Gobby only today) * Jon Stanley (showed up a little later) Regrets: * none Today's lucky secretary: Christoph Wickert Today's goal reporting folks: Rudi Landmann, Rex Dieter ======================================= * Announcements none * Quick updates on Rudi/Rex board member goals none of them was present in the meeting * Updates on trademark stuff * Tickets/Actual Meat of Agenda #117 Fedora on Launchpad.net: Page cannot be removed for technical reasons but we can change the text. Toshio might be able to contact somebody to update it once we provide something. #95 Board's position on spins: Add Adam to CC and have him update the ticket in order to figure out which questions still persist and need to be addressed. #102 Fedora QA as a sub-project: QA still needs to discuss it. * Open floor Naming suggestions for F18: Although we are late (elections should be open soon) we still need to wait for some Red Hat-internal review. Should be finished on Monday. * Next meeting: 2012-04-18

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