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FAmSco meeting 2012-04-04 minutes
by Christoph Wickert 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/famsco.2012-04-0… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/famsco.2012-04-0… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/famsco.2012-04-0… Meet you again next week Wednesday, April 11th at 22:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting! Regards, Christoph ================================== #fedora-meeting: FAmSCo 2012-04-04 ================================== Meeting started by cwickert at 22:02:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/famsco.2012-04-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (cwickert, 22:02:32) * y1nv sent regrets, he is on the road (cwickert, 22:05:22) * the meeting agenda for this meeting can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9 (cwickert, 22:06:39) * Budget and reimbursement issues (cwickert, 22:07:44) * New FAmSco election rules (cwickert, 22:11:57) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cwickert/Proposed_FAmSCo_election_rules (cwickert, 22:12:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board#Introduction (kaio, 22:57:42) * Budget + PO for EMEA F17 media production (cwickert, 23:32:17) * Transit flight from KL to Hong Kong to start Fedora contacts with HKLUG. (cwickert, 23:34:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FADHK201205 (cwickert, 23:41:37) * Action items (cwickert, 23:50:47) * Fedora disks for first half of 2012 (Chile and Argentina) (cwickert, 00:11:09) * ACTION: cwickert to update #263 (cwickert, 00:15:51) Meeting ended at 00:18:52 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cwickert to update #263 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cwickert * cwickert to update #263 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cwickert (367) * herlo (175) * kaio (74) * igorps (61) * zoltanh7211 (37) * inode0 (15) * zodbot (14) * kk4ewt (11) * rbergeron (4) * affix (1)

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EMEA ambassadors meeting 2012-04-04 minutes
by Christoph Wickert 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

Seems I confused the dates in the meeting: It was April 4th but I named the meeting 2012-04-05. Sorry about that, but that's what happens after 4 hours of IRC meetings - on to another hour... Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/emea_ambassadors… Meet you again on Wednesday, April 18th (two weeks from now) at 20:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting! Regards, Christoph ============================================ #fedora-meeting: EMEA Ambassadors 2012-04-04 ============================================ Meeting started by cwickert at 20:01:12 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/emea_ambassadors… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (cwickert, 20:01:33) * announcements (cwickert, 20:07:07) * Budapest has withdrawn it's bid for FUDCon 2012 (cwickert, 20:08:00) * FUDCon EMEA 2012 (cwickert, 20:10:27) * After the Budapest bid was withdrawn the EMEA ambassadors recommend Paris for the 2012 EMEA FUDCon (cwickert, 20:12:27) * ACTION: shaiton to call for an IRC meeting on FUDCon Paris (cwickert, 20:12:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Paris_2012 (cwickert, 20:13:11) * Ambassadors schedule (cwickert, 20:15:21) * LINK: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html (cwickert, 20:15:24) * EMEA F17 media production (cwickert, 20:19:13) * AGREED: sesivany will act as primary point of contact for F17 media production (cwickert, 20:24:31) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/280 (cwickert, 20:28:15) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jsimon/community_credit_card_report#Jul… (kital, 20:43:28) * AGREED: Stick to the Czech vendor and place one big order there (cwickert, 20:46:10) * AGREED: Lets try to have the Install DVD as 32/64 bit dual layer this time (cwickert, 20:48:44) * ACTION: cwickert to update the list of desired quotes in https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/280 (cwickert, 20:52:52) * ACTION: sesivany to get quotes from the media vendor (cwickert, 20:53:01) * Ambassadors expressed that they want 5000 media gain (compared to 4000 last time) and more Live media (cwickert, 20:53:38) * Swag and Artwork (cwickert, 20:54:42) * if you want any special swag or artwork, request it NOW from the design team. (cwickert, 20:55:43) * gnokii or vinz should act as point of contact for the ambassadors to the design team (cwickert, 20:56:08) * Release events (cwickert, 20:56:20) * ACTION: cwickert to call for Release events (cwickert, 20:56:35) * Release Event Submission Deadline is 2012-04-20, a little more than 2 weeks from now (cwickert, 20:57:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events#EMEA (shaiton, 21:01:01) * Release Event Submission Deadline is 2012-04-20, a little more than 2 weeks from now (cwickert, 21:04:12) * ACTION: cwickert to create the Linuxtag wiki page (cwickert, 21:12:55) * ACTION: cwickert to write a mail about Linuxtag to the list (cwickert, 21:13:14) * Open Floor (cwickert, 21:13:31) * Trademark Guidelines are going to change soon. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pchestek/TMGuidelinesDraft for a draft and expect instructions from FAmSCo about the impact on swag production when time comes (cwickert, 21:14:42) * ACTION: gnokii to send a mail to the list that we need to collect all remaining media or at least have an overview what is left and where (cwickert, 21:31:33) * ACTION: zoltanh7211 sesivany and gnokii to file tickets for Vien in the swag tracker if necessary (cwickert, 21:32:21) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linuxwochen_Wien_2012 (gnokii, 21:38:57) Meeting ended at 21:44:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * shaiton to call for an IRC meeting on FUDCon Paris * cwickert to update the list of desired quotes in https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/280 * sesivany to get quotes from the media vendor * cwickert to call for Release events * cwickert to create the Linuxtag wiki page * cwickert to write a mail about Linuxtag to the list * gnokii to send a mail to the list that we need to collect all remaining media or at least have an overview what is left and where * zoltanh7211 sesivany and gnokii to file tickets for Vien in the swag tracker if necessary Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cwickert * cwickert to update the list of desired quotes in https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/280 * cwickert to call for Release events * cwickert to create the Linuxtag wiki page * cwickert to write a mail about Linuxtag to the list * gnokii * gnokii to send a mail to the list that we need to collect all remaining media or at least have an overview what is left and where * zoltanh7211 sesivany and gnokii to file tickets for Vien in the swag tracker if necessary * sesivany * sesivany to get quotes from the media vendor * zoltanh7211 sesivany and gnokii to file tickets for Vien in the swag tracker if necessary * shaiton * shaiton to call for an IRC meeting on FUDCon Paris * zoltanh7211 * zoltanh7211 sesivany and gnokii to file tickets for Vien in the swag tracker if necessary * **UNASSIGNED** * (none)

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2012-04-02 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120402 Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-04-09 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120409 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * kparal to propose revised criteria to cover split installs (installer sourced from one repo, packages from internet repos): didn't have a chance to do this yet * wwoods to ensure anaconda docs are updated to reflect what repo= is supposed to be capable of: wwoods was not around to update this TOPIC: Fedora 17 Beta status / blocker review ======================================================================= * We still haven't been able to spin an RC3 * We have pretty good RC2 test coverage, just a couple of tests remain, we can knock those off today * See online minutes[1] for blocker review summary TOPIC: 'Project' status ======================================================================= * We're happy for QA to officially become a 'Fedora project', we will stick the drafted Governance section into the Wiki somewhere and let the board know we're happy to accept project status. This decision does not in any way influence the question of the QA/Bugzappers relationship TOPIC: Test Day report ======================================================================= * Kdump Test Day on 03-27[2] seems to have been DOA, likely due to late organization and lack of publicity * GNOME Shell software rendering Test Day on 03-29[3] seems to have gone off pretty nicely, decent amount of testing and some useful reports TOPIC: Upcoming QA events ======================================================================= * Power Management Test Day on 04-04[4] * Installation l10n/i18n Test Day on 04-05[5] * Beta Go/No-Go scheduled (again) for 04-04 TOPIC: AutoQA update ======================================================================= * No news, team is busy with Beta testing TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= N/A [1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-02/fedora-qa.2012-0… [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-27_Kdump [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-29_Gnome_Shell_Software_Rend… [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-04_Power_Management [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-05_L10n_I18n_Installation -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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2012-03-26 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

Sorry this is a bit late, Beta crunch :( As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120326 Next meeting was scheduled for 2012-04-02 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * adamw to bug j_dulaney to bug Sugar test day folks: this was done, and the event happened successfully TOPIC: Fedora 17 Beta status / blocker review ======================================================================= * RC1 is out and needs all Beta tests completed * Blocker review - see http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-26/fedora-qa.2012-0… for summary TOPIC: 'Project' status ======================================================================= * See the on-list discussion[1] * Discussion was tabled till the following week due to lack of time TOPIC: Test Day report ======================================================================= * Sugar Test Day on 03-22[2] - turnout was low, but the few who attended performed an impressive amount of testing TOPIC: Upcoming QA events ======================================================================= * Kdump Test Day on 03-27[3] * GNOME Shell software rendering Test Day on 03-29[4] * Beta Go/No-Go scheduled for 03-28 TOPIC: AutoQA update ======================================================================= * No news! TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= N/A ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * kparal to propose revised criteria to cover split installs (installer sourced from one repo, packages from internet repos) * wwoods to ensure anaconda docs are updated to reflect what repo= is supposed to be capable of [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-March/106215.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-22_Sugar_Desktop [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-27_Kdump [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-29_Gnome_Shell_Software_Rend… -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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F17 Emergency Beta Blocker Bug Review #4.5 minutes
by Adam Williamson 04 Apr '12

04 Apr '12

We had a short notice emergency blocker review this afternoon in an attempt to get Beta RC3 released. Here are the notes. ================================================= #fedora-meeting: emergency blocker review meeting ================================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-03/fedora-meeting.2… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-03/fedora-meeting.2… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-03/fedora-meeting.2… Meeting summary --------------- * (807510) fail to boot from the IBM serverRAID (tflink, 23:11:32) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807510 (tflink, 23:11:32) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 23:11:32) * AGREED: - 807510 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - After farther investigation, this is only going to affect a relatively small subset of installs and could be fixed by an update (tflink, 23:18:26) * (807982) anaconda can not load an updates.img from removable media (tflink, 23:18:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807982 (tflink, 23:18:39) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 23:18:41) * AGREED: - Adjust Fedora 17 release criteria to require updates.img delivery methods other than http/ftp to work at Final stage rather than Beta stage (adamw, 23:26:34) * AGREED: #807982 is rejected as a blocker under the pending modified criterion, accepted as NTH as it clearly can't be fixed with an update (adamw, 23:28:20) * (809342) anaconda tries to install grub on wrong device (tflink, 23:28:32) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809342 (tflink, 23:28:32) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 23:28:33) * AGREED: - 809342 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 beta criterion "The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a clean, fully updated default installation (from any official install medium) of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to the installer manually. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria" (tflink, 23:33:18) * (809647) sourcing updates.img from installation repository does not work (tflink, 23:33:30) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809647 (tflink, 23:33:33) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 23:33:35) * AGREED: - 809647 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - Due to the recently altered F17 beta release criteria, this is no longer a blocker but can't be fixed with an update; therefore accepted NTH and reproposed as a final blocker (tflink, 23:35:29) * (791130) segfault in _clutter_actor_finish_queue_redraw (tflink, 23:35:54) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791130 (tflink, 23:35:54) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 23:35:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791130#c49 (adamw, 23:38:12) * AGREED: - 791130 - RejectedBlocker - The consequences and frequency of this crash were judged to not be severe enough to warrant blocker status for beta (tflink, 23:42:47) * (808152) Xorg can't use basic framebuffer (/dev/fb0) driver. (tflink, 23:42:58) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808152 (tflink, 23:42:58) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 23:42:58) * AGREED: - 808152 - RejectedBlocker - This is a corner case with xen and was judged to be too specific to accept as a blocker for F17 beta (tflink, 23:47:12) * (804913) Fresh Install fails to boot (no init) (tflink, 23:53:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804913 (tflink, 23:53:50) * Proposed NTH, POST (tflink, 23:53:50) * bz806593 is already acceptedNTH and has the same fix, skipping (tflink, 23:56:31) * (808378) GNOME 3.4.0 as NTH for F17 Beta (tflink, 00:02:21) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808378 (tflink, 00:02:21) * Accepted NTH, NEW (tflink, 00:02:22) * ACTION: tflink to build pre-RC3 test DVD with GNOME 3.4 (tflink, 00:07:15) * (808029) kickstart cannot be mounted on hard drive (tflink, 00:14:20) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808029 (tflink, 00:14:20) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 00:14:20) * AGREED: - 808029 - RejectedBlocker - After investigation, we have been unable to reproduce this bug and the reporter has made no comments regarding farther reproduction - judged to no longer be serious enough to stay a blocker (tflink, 00:18:28) * (745202) gnome-shell does not display correctly with NV3x adapters - multicolor corruption of panel, Shell-style menus and text [nvfx] (tflink, 00:19:06) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 (tflink, 00:19:09) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 00:19:12) * AGREED: - 745202 - RejectedBlocker - While this bug has not yet been properly fixed, the blacklist has addressed the problem of non-functional installs enough for beta (tflink, 00:23:28) * open floor (tflink, 00:23:48) Meeting ended at 00:28:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tflink to build pre-RC3 test DVD with GNOME 3.4 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (164) * tflink (137) * rbergeron (42) * nirik (31) * bcl (20) * kalev (7) * zodbot (4) * bodhi_zazen (2) * dramsey (1) * satellit_ (1) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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FAmNA Meeting (04 April 2012)
by inode0 03 Apr '12

03 Apr '12

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-04/famna.2012-04-04… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:22) * Announcements (inode0, 01:03:31) * Tickets (inode0, 01:05:46) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pchestek/TMGuidelinesDraft#Non-Software_… (inode0, 01:07:02) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2012-March/011523.h… (rdieter, 01:19:01) * Open Floor (inode0, 01:58:17) * ACTION: inode0 will cheer up and be less grumpy next week (inode0, 02:08:05) Meeting ended at 02:11:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ * inode0 will cheer up and be less grumpy next week Action Items, by person ----------------------- * inode0 * inode0 will cheer up and be less grumpy next week * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * inode0 (110) * nb (27) * chanchito (26) * award3535 (23) * Sonar_Gal (20) * kk4ewt (18) * herlo (9) * graphite6 (9) * zodbot (6) * dramsey (3) * rdieter (2) * mock (1) * rbergeron (0) John

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Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02)
by Miloslav Trmač 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-04-02) =================================== Meeting started by mitr at 17:00:54 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-02/fesco.2012-04-02… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mitr, 17:01:06) * #830 define requirements for secondary arch promotion (mitr, 17:05:02) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secondary_Architecture_Promotion_Requirements… (mjg59, 17:05:46) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Secondary_Architecture_Promotion_Requirements… (nirik, 17:05:46) * AGREED: wait a week for more discussion on list, vote on critera draft (mitr, 17:18:27) * #833 Remove provenpackagers access to libvirt related packages (mitr, 17:18:36) * Provenpackagers please try to contact the maintainers first (if possible) before you commit changes to a package. (t8m, 17:30:30) * ACTION: mmaslano will draft provenpackager policy changes (mitr, 17:39:47) * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs (mitr, 17:40:06) * AGREED: tmp-on-tmpfs is accepted (+5 -3) (mitr, 18:12:52) * #835 F18 Feature: GHC 7.4 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GHC74 (mitr, 18:13:03) * AGREED: GHC7.4 is accepted (+7 ) (mitr, 18:15:13) * Next week's chair (mitr, 18:15:31) * ACTION: nirik will chair next meeting (mitr, 18:16:21) * Open Floor (mitr, 18:16:26) * AGREED: the meeting on April 9 is canceled (mitr, 18:19:07) * Open Floor (mitr, 18:19:28) Meeting ended at 18:22:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mmaslano will draft provenpackager policy changes * nirik will chair next meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mmaslano * mmaslano will draft provenpackager policy changes * nirik * nirik will chair next meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mitr (106) * mezcalero (62) * mjg59 (59) * nirik (36) * pjones (34) * limburgher (27) * mmaslano (24) * t8m (18) * danpb (16) * notting (15) * kay (15) * zodbot (8) * bconoboy (8) * rbergeron (1) * drago01 (1) * brunowolff (1) * sgallagh (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Docs meeting summary - 2 April 2012
by Ben Cotton 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (bcotton, 14:02:27) * Follow up on last week's action items (bcotton, 14:06:16) * Proofreading for RN welcome if done quickly (bcotton, 14:08:32) * Release Notes (bcotton, 14:11:30) * Schedule (bcotton, 14:16:32) * Beta release date has slipped a week (to 10 April). (bcotton, 14:16:57) * final release is now pushed to 15 May (bcotton, 14:17:46) * Guide Status (bcotton, 14:18:56) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:31:16) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:31:27) * Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:32:45) Meeting ended at 14:34:35 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcotton (33) * pkovar (15) * jjmcd (12) * zodbot (3) * randomuser (1) * chuckf (1) * Capesteve (1) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-02/fedora_docs.2012… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-02/fedora_docs.2012… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-02/fedora_docs.2012… -- Ben Cotton Fedora Docs Leader

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