ambassadors March 2006

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2006-03-23
by Thomas Chung 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

All, Sorry for the late summary. Here is it is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-03-23 Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] About FC5 DVD
by Aks 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Dear All, I've been trying to download the DVD image of FC5, but due to slow connection speed I've not been able to download. Could somebody please help me to get one DVD. Thanks Regards Abhishek Singh

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Requesting DVDs
by Wassim K. 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello everybody! It's a shame that, as Fedora ambassador, I still don't have Fedora Core 5 DVD. The reason is that I don't have a good connection, and the guy who can download it doesn't have a DVD burner, and he's not allowed to plug a device in his office. Here's my deal: If someone can send me 2 DVD's containing respectively the OS and the extras, I will make copies and send them back to 3 other Fedora users around the world that you specify the addresses (remember the Kevin Spacey's "Pay it forward" :-)) I would prefer that the sender lives around the Mediterranean sea or Europe so that the package arrives faster. To download all extra repositories, download the attached file and type ===CODE STARTS HERE=== mkdir {SRPMS,i386} cd SRPMS for i in $(bunzip2 -c /path/to/extra_src.bz2); do wget -c $i; done unset i cd ../i386 for i in $(bunzip2 -c /path/to/extra_src.bz2); do wget -c $i; done unset i ===CODE ENDS HERE=== Thanks in advance -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEJ7/wsBDlgRgEI4IRAj8GAJ9smf5lGwLyZfrjbuhmSHxWqEGWLwCgjkGP Nz4bM1EqoBq4mKz1kedLa74= =rdKj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] fedora-ambassadors-list public archive
by Thomas Chung 28 Mar '06

28 Mar '06

All, You asked for it and our famsco discussed, voted then made a decision. Yes, it's *OPEN* to public now. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/ Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung

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Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] FLISOL 2006 - DF, Brazil
by David Barzilay 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

yep, they are both working together on the event. many thanks guys, and good luck! best, -- db > On 3/26/06, Rodrigo Menezes <rodrigomenezes12(a)yahoo.com.br> wrote: > > What about the DVDs and T-shirts for FISL? Alex? > > > > Can you provide us with these until April 19? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Rodrigo Menezes > > Rodrigo, > Are you currently working with RodrigoPadula? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > Make sure there is only one request via Fedora Ambassadors Material > Request Form. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- David Barzilay Embaixador Global do Fedora Embaixador Remoto para o Brasil

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Steering committee meeting last night.
by Clair 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

After reading through the transcript of the steering committee meeting which happened last night, I have a few pointers: * Why is funding, swag, and events seen as the three 'big' things? No. Events are NOT the most important part of ambassadors. I cannot stress this enough. Funding and swag should not be seen as something that makes or breaks ambassadors. The only swag that is imo important is the DVDs. And these can be produced much more cheaper than the plan so far, and should be sent to ALL ambassadors whether they are going to an event or not. Handing out DVDs to friends and people "on the street" is a very big way fedora is spread. * Alex is trying to combine mentors and ambassadors. This is a sign that Alex is thinking that ambassadors is some master project. No. It's not. Ambassadors are here to do one job, and one job only. You do not discuss, or deal with, marketing. You do not mentor. You tell people about Fedora. You tell them anywhere, not just in the big events. * The only overlap between ambassadors and mentors is that the ambassadors project is in serious need of support. There are too many ambassadors who, in my opinion, do not know what their role is, or how to fulfill it. It is good that the committee is starting to see this. As a side note: (19:21:20) rjune [n=rjune(a)oh-67-76-200-198.sta.sprint-hsd.net] entered the room. (19:21:34) lxmaier: rjune: who are you? (19:22:23) lxmaier: rjune: this is a members-only meeting, please leave (19:22:42) rjune left the room (Kicked by lxmaier (lxmaier)). I was taken aback when reading this - it shocks and saddens me. rjune is an important member of the fedora community. Several things spring to mind here: 1) By asking "Who are you", it has become clear that Alex does not know, or care about, anyone who is not an ambassador. She should seriously consider getting to know strong community members like rjune, whether ambassador or not. 2) Fedora is open source. We are open. Why should someone be stopped from spectating (or even taking part?) in a meeting, whether it's committee or not, whether they're members or not? 3) /kick is a tool that should be used lightly. Not only does keeping +o go against freenode guidelines, using said op tools is not recommended unless it is really necessary, since it raises the channel temperature.

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] About Fedora Web Template
by Aks 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

Dear Punit, Your designs are all well and it seems you are a bit interested in Flash animation. The animation I liked most is of template 4. Could you please try with different colours instead of orange. I would like you to experiment with blue background and off-white text. Moreover we should as well give place to other web elements on the page, as the flash animation alone won't do much. Let me wait for your new tweaked designs. Regards Abhishek Singh

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] FCOD Report
by Pawel Sadowski 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

Hi, I have a pleasure to write you about Fedora Core Open Days that held in Poland on 18-19 March. So, first, after a small delay, some guy from local LUG started the event by welcoming the people. Then was the first speech, of course mine ;) First, I've told very shortly about history of Linux (it'd be difficult to talk about Fedora without knowing the Linux history :>). Then I started my speech about Fedora. I told inter alia about history of Fedora - Red Hat Linux → Fedora Core → Fedora Project → Fedora Foundation, about what's new in FC5, how to help, and generally about the project. Then there was Mateusz Halaba's and his brother's speech about KDE. Later there was a set of lectures and talks about various features of Linux and Fedora Core. The president of local LUG, Filip Klebczyk had a speech about Linux community. There was a ballot of gifts from enqiries for participants. There was also a president of B2B, Red Hat reseller in Poland. After the first day, there was a party in local pub, but I didn't participate (together with friends from www.fedora.pl forum we had a party in hotel that we were staying in ;)). On the second day there were also interesting lectures, inter alia the lecture of Polish Fedora Core developer, Dawid Gajownik, about SELinux. Unfortunately, I had to go during his speech, because I had a train to home (next was in the morning next day). I know that on the second day there was also a lottery of prizes from questionnaires for participants. I gave a FC4 DVD to one boy, although he asked me about FC5. I distributed few copies of FC5. We haven't DVDs so we couldn't burn it for all participants. And, we had access for CD version, so we would have to have a lot of CDs to burn it to everybody. But it was also great that we could have FC5 for this event, and we are very grateful, especially to Patrick W. Barnes and Jesse Keating for their commitment and that by dint of them we had FC5 earlier :) We had Ubuntu for distribute at the event - heh, Fedora would be better, but it was better to distribute Ubuntu than nothing ;) There was also a tournament in Frozen Bubble and Python benchs. Ok, I think that's all. Once again thanks for all people who helped us organizing this great Fedora event. We are already planning to organize Fedora Open Days (more appropriate name - Fedora is not only operating system, and creating the logo for the event will be easier). We were preliminairly thinking about Cracow. I think this time, we should have Fedora T-shirts and DVDs for distribute to everybody. It will be a big show ;) Regards, Pawel Sadowski

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Inquiry - General marketing questions from a student of international business
by Tejas Dinkar 25 Mar '06

25 Mar '06

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 22:24 +0100, Patrick Windt wrote: > The license fees alone would make it beneficial. Let us not forget the joy of helping one's neighbor > The problem I currently see in the Open Source is that, on one hand > you have a point that open source is about choices and everyone does > marketing in his or her own way. But on the other hand the marketing > efforts become so fragmented that it has lost a great deal of > effectiveness. Cathedral/Bazaar... We are disorganized to some extend, but we spread our message because we are united by our passion for OSS. > May I ask whether you (plural) have had marketing education or > experiences other than this? Not to mean disrespectful, just being > curious. Well, I have no marketing education at all. And IMO, (not to be disrespectful), that is probably my strong point. Traditional rules don't always apply when you are working on FOSS > I do want to contribute to spread of open source software, but I need > to understand how others will benefit from it, which I am in the > process of learning "these days". Great :) > Very kind regards, > > Patrick > > > > On 3/24/06, Alex Maier <lxmaier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I will respond to some questions, as most of them were > answered by the > great post by Tejas. and BTW, no offense taken--direct > questions are > the best! > > On 3/23/06, Patrick Windt <paddy.windt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I just feel fascinated by the task of marketeers in the > Fedora community. > > Although you are not a commercial distribution, I should > believe that even > > the marketing department has some goals to obtain? For > example; get review > > in 5 magazines a month, or get so many registered fedora > users, or so many > > downloads.... > > Nope, we do not have any set goals, and we do not have a > structure to > enforce them. Whatever the community does, is great, and a > good thing > is that there are thousands of people out there who each > contribute > whatever little resources they can spare, and together we > achieve the > impact you see. > > > Finally, is the marketing "department" of the fedora > community in contact > > with the creators/developers? > > Yes, by all means. As we are not a commercial organization, > but a > group of volunteers, many of us "moonlight" as developers or > vice > versa. We have email lists to which anyone can subscribe, such > as > fedora-marketing list, and on these lists everyone can submit > their > input. > > We also have a wiki, on which our projects and sub-projects > keep their > information for the whole world to review and comment on. > > This is how we ensure that information flows freely between > the > projects within Fedora, as well as between the project itself > and the > rest of the world :) > > Now if I may ask you a question--in what project are you going > to use > the information about Fedora? Is there any way you might be > interested > in contributing? > > Thank you, > Alex > > > On 3/23/06, Alex Maier <lxmaier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Partick, > > > > > > Please visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/ for > > some > > > background information. > > > > > > Fedora is not a commercial distribution, so we do not > really have a > > > corporate strategy behind all our actions. Rather, we try > to draw > > > attention to our projects and recruit more contributors. > > > > > > I have forwarded your request to fedora-marketing-list, > and the folks > > > there shall be in touch with you shortly with all sorts of > in-depth > > > comments. > > > > > > I really do not feel like I am the only person who konws > all the truth > > > about Fedora Marketin, and this is why I asked them to > help me out :) > > > > > > If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to > get in touch > > > with me again--I will try to help as much as I can. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Alex > > > > > > On 3/20/06, Patrick Windt <paddy.windt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear mrs. Maier, > > > > > > > > So if I get this right, seeing that you are indeed head > of marketing, > > the > > > > fedora marketing team focusses their attention on > promotion. Is Fedora > > Core > > > > not adapted to fit the needs of it's members, by lets > say a broad > > survey, or > > > > is it estimated what the target audience wants? > > > > > > > > Does the fedora marketing team have any firm strategic > or operational > > > > targets to obtain? > > > > > > > > I'm mostly interested in fedora's marketing strategy > since it is very > > much > > > > different from a regular company. It is indeed non > profitable and you do > > not > > > > have a tangible item. > > > > > > > > Friendly greetings, > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/20/06, Alex Maier < lxmaier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear Patrick, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your inquiry. I lead the > Ambassadors project, > > > > > and this is what I can speak for :) > > > > > > > > > > The Ambassadors project is a grass-roots initiative > mostly centered > > > > > around "getting the word out" to the people outside > the Fedora project > > > > > and also helping Fedora Project communicate with > Fedora and Linux > > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any more questions, please feel free to > get in touch with > > > > > me or the entire Steering Committee (Famsco) for more > help. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your interest in Fedora, > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > On 3/18/06, Patrick Windt <paddy.windt(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear mrs. Maier, > > > > > > > > > > > > As an international marketing student, I was > wondering in what > > aspects > > > > the > > > > > > marketing department of "fedora" is integrated in > the final product > > > > release. > > > > > > Or is the marketing of fedora solely based on > "getting the word out" > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I would love to get some insight in the marketing > plan of Fedora... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick Windt > > > > > > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! > > http://fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Patrick Windt > > > > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! > http://fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Patrick Windt > > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com > > > -- > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! > http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Patrick Windt > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora Word Of Mouth Project
by Clair 25 Mar '06

25 Mar '06

Hi all, I'm gonna see how this works. I've started off a project, intended as a subproject of Ambassadors, and not a replacement, to help Ambassadors (and others) to spread the word of Fedora to others. It's all explained (hopefully) on the wiki, over at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ClairShaw/WordOfMouth Check it out :) Clair

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