ambassadors March 2006

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] video contest prizes
by David Nalley 25 Mar '06

25 Mar '06

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Talk at BLUG
by Tejas Dinkar 25 Mar '06

25 Mar '06

Hey, Someone volunteered me to speak at my LUG (the Bangalore Linux Users Group), today, and the talk will be in another few hours. I'll of course make my slides available as soon as the talk is over. This is a different kinda talk than those on the fp.o, because I have 15 mins on `Why FC5 changes the entropy of the Universe`. (because I was so exited about FC5 when it released). However, in my talk, I'm also required to give a few reasons I DON'T like FC5, so there will be a slide called "Things in FC5 that annoy the hell out of me". Because of the above slide, my talk may not necessarily be given as a "Fedora Ambassador", but just as a general enthusiast. Gja

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] FOSS.NITC Report
by Kushal Das 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

Hi, here is my report on FOSS.NITC event. FOSS.NITC was held on 18-19 March in Calicut, Kerala (India). This is mainly a student based event, where they meet with industry people. Students from NIT Calicut & other local engineering colleges were there. It was nice to see that NIT Calicut's computer Lab is almost completely based on Fedora (FC4). The same thing is there in other colleges too. So most of the students are very much familiar with Fedora :) My BoF session was mainly attended by students of 1st & 2nd year. They had lots questions about Fedora. They never previously used yum. I talked about FC5 features. One commonly asked question was how to upgrade from FC4 to FC5 (through DVD) as I was distributing FC4 DVDs. In the event some people were talking about KDE in Fedora (they don't like the way it is being packaged), they liked to hear "moving KDE packages into the Fedora Extras repository". Fedora livecd also rocks. Some girls were complaining about "No G size tshirts". The event went good. Regards, Kushal

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] A humble request fro Kenya
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

Can someone burn a DVD and send it to Douglas directly? Let's make a friend in Kenya. :) --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:09:21 -0800 From: Douglas Chrispine <dchrispine(a)gmail.com> To: info(a)fedoraproject.org, gdk(a)redhat.com Subject: Fedora core To: info(a)fedoraproject.org Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:58:39 -0800 Subject: Fedora Core 5 Am aged 19 yrs old a student in Kenya.Currently am in college doing Linux administration . Of all the distributions I have come across, Fedora has been my best so far. Recently I took a tour round your website and came across infor that fedora core 5 has been launched. i have tried going thru the mirror sites all over the continents but i always get Error messages. farther more getting good to excellent internet connection in my country Kenya is quite a problem .I am kindly requesting if you can get me the copy of the new Fedora core %, the one am using is fedoda 3 which is al together fascinating,but am very curious and determined to use the new one coz am 2 upgrades down. please get me this- A very himble request. My contact information is Douglas Chrispine Onyango P.O. Box 15698-00503, Nairobi-Kenya

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Fwd: Inquiry - General marketing questions from a student of international business
by Tejas Dinkar 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 09:38 +0100, Patrick Windt wrote: > Dear Mr/Mrs Dinkar Mr... or just Tejas is Fine > First of all thank you for your swift and extraodinary detailed reply. > I did know how the concept of free/open software and I know that > Fedora is not a commercial product. But this does not mean, I hope, > that the marketing department/list says; well it doesn't matter what > we do, people will like it or know it or not. > > I'm simply interested in the doings, and not doings of marketing. > > I would assume that the marketing department/list does have some > marketing specific goals? I would hardly think that this task is > thought of lightly. See, here is where you missed it... The marketing department IS a group of volunteers, and obviously, each person will have a different reason for being part of the project. On the whole, the marketing teams goal is clear: We need to give fedora to as many people as possible. The key word here is *give*. We do not ask any money for it, so in this respect, we aren't truly marketing. I think the way Fedora's Marketing is this... We try to make sure that Fedora is in the hands of as many people as possible. After that, we are sure that the product will take care of itself, so to speak. However, there is another major difference. We also try to get other people to actively contribute... If you see the last slide of most of the talks on Fedora, it will be on `How can I contribute back to the project`. As a coder, or as an ambassador, or to write documentation, each is an important part. So in the true sense, we aren't marketers, we are enthusiasts. However, as you say, yes, we must have a goal... And our goal is to promote free software, until the common man becomes more aware of it. To Promote Free software in General, and Fedora in particular We aim to remove the Fear, Uncertainty and Doubts that certain proprietary vendors have created against the Free and Open Source World. The above two are the goals of the Marketing initiative IMO. The method we go about doing this is many 1) Speak at events world wide 2) Send DVDs to people who ask 3) Have install fests 4) Spread fedora on a more personal basis, to your friends I think that above covers it. Please CC the list when replying, I know I'm not the only guy with an opinion > However I do think it's odd to make the end-users the developers. I > believe that fedora core has the big potential of beating windows in > the Operating Systems market, or is that an aspect that isn't > considered either? Well, sort of. We would really love to see more free software in the market. However, (at least I) am not particularly fanatic about Fedora, I would really like to see free software (be it Fedora, SuSE, FreeBSD, RHEL) dominating the market. Remember, that no matter which free software wins, all the others still win. Gja > Please enlighten me :) > > Patrick > > > On 3/24/06, Tejas Dinkar <tejasdinkar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm responding directly to the original poster as well > > As I am not "The Head of Marketing", I may be wrong, and don't > sue me if > I am spouting rot. > > Dear Patrick, > > Perhaps, before you attempt to understand how marketing in > Fedora works, > you should understand how Fedora, or any open source project > in the > world works. > > The concept of Fedora is Freedom. This doesn't just mean that > you can > take our product and run away with it. It also means you can > modify our > product, redistribute it, for free, or even for a fee. > > Consider this example: > > > > Chef Super-Gja has generated a recipe for Vegetable Stew that > is > AWESOME!!!! > > Chef Super-Gja decided he wants to help as many people as he > can with > his amazing Vegetable Stew. > > so he starts producing 1000 Litres of Stew every day, and > giving it away > for no cost. He feels that his Stew is Free. > > However, one day, his friend tells him that he is allergic to > the > carrots in the stew, and that many people have requested for > Stew > without carrots in it. > > Now, Chef Super-Gja gets a great idea. Rather than giving away > just the > Stew, what he does is give away some stew, as well as the > RECIPE for the > stew. This way, if everyone has the recipe, then they are > allowed to > modify the soup, improve it, and customize it to their needs. > > Pretty soon, his friend comes back. His friend has modified > the recipe, > and the following side note: by adding a spoon of butter to > the soup, it > will make the stew a lot thicker. > > The Chef decides that this suggestion is so good, that he > includes it in > the original recipe for the soup. > > Chef Super-Gja realizes that by giving out the recipe of the > soup, and > not just the soup itself, he has ensured that everyone has > access to his > soup, and that everyone can easily make it and improve it. By > doing > this, he has made an entire community of stew cookers, who are > all eager > to help improve the original recipe. > > Also, Chef Super-Gja also has ensured that people will be > drinking his > soup, long after he has retired. > > > > This is the way open source works. Here, software is the soup, > and the > source code (a text document from which software is made) is > compared to > the RECIPE of the soup. > > Some companies, like Red Hat, do make money out of open > source. They > give out the `recipe` for their product. In doing so, they > will have a > large community behind them. This community will continuously > be sending > back improvements to Red Hat's soup, and will be in close > contact with > Red Hat. Not just the Marketing or Support teams, as happens > with most > companies. But the end user is in contact with the developers. > In fact > THE END USERS ARE THE DEVELOPERS. > > Some products, like fedora are not commercial. They are > maintained > entirely by volunteers, so that it can benefit their neighbor. > > Now as far as marketing goes. > > Except for (perhaps) 5 of the ambassadors, none of us are Paid > to > Promote Fedora. > > The rest of us, simply use Fedora. We love Fedora, and we want > to tell > people about it. We want to help spread the message that > Fedora > symbolizes. That message is the Following: > > `Fedora Is Free! We want to use Free Software. Not free as in > Zero Cost. > Free as in Freedom.` > > We are volunteers who help to promote an idea we believe in, > during our > Free time. We do not really expect to be rewarded in any way. > We are > doing it because we know it is the right thing to do. > > > For Further Reading on this Topic, I suggest you read this > essay: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ > > Gja > > On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:51 -0500, Alex Maier wrote: > > Dear mrs. Maier, > > > > So if I get this right, seeing that you are indeed head of > marketing, > > the fedora marketing team focusses their attention on > promotion. Is > > Fedora Core not adapted to fit the needs of it's members, by > lets say > > a broad survey, or is it estimated what the target audience > wants? > > > > Does the fedora marketing team have any firm strategic or > operational > > targets to obtain? > > > > I'm mostly interested in fedora's marketing strategy since > it is very > > much different from a regular company. It is indeed non > profitable and > > you do not have a tangible item. > > > > Friendly greetings, > > > > Patrick > > > > > > On 3/20/06, Alex Maier < lxmaier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Patrick, > > > > > > Thank you very much for your inquiry. I lead the > Ambassadors project, > > > and this is what I can speak for :) > > > > > > The Ambassadors project is a grass-roots initiative mostly > centered > > > around "getting the word out" to the people outside the > Fedora project > > > and also helping Fedora Project communicate with Fedora > and Linux > > > community. > > > > > > If you have any more questions, please feel free to get in > touch with > > > me or the entire Steering Committee (Famsco) for more > help. > > > > > > Thank you very much for your interest in Fedora, > > > Alex > > > > > > On 3/18/06, Patrick Windt <paddy.windt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear mrs. Maier, > > > > > > > > As an international marketing student, I was wondering > in what aspects the > > > > marketing department of "fedora" is integrated in the > final product release. > > > > Or is the marketing of fedora solely based on "getting > the word out" ? > > > > > > > > I would love to get some insight in the marketing plan > of Fedora... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Patrick Windt > > > > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! > http://fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Patrick Windt > > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com > > > > -- > > Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! > http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Patrick Windt > paddy.windt(a)gmail.com

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Just wanted to introduce myself.
by CyberSpy 24 Mar '06

24 Mar '06

Greetings, Just wanted to take a minute to say hello to everyone and let you all know how excited I am to be an active participant in this project. I've been using Fedora since Core 1 and some of you already know me from IRC. I plan to contribute in every area that I can, so please, feel free to mail me with anything you may need me to help with. I'll be spreading the word of Fedora in the RTP and surrounding areas of North Carolina, USA and in Phila PA, USA. In conjunction with the self gratification I'll get by promoting what I feel to be an extremely viable desktop alternative, I hope to gain some terrific new friends here. -- Surreptitously Yours, CyberSpy

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Note for a Fedora Project marketing person
by Alex 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

Dear Chris, I am copying Fedora Marketing and Fedora Ambassadors on my response, so they can all chime in. Fedora is not a company, and not a commercial distribution. We are a community project, in part sponsored by Red Hat. We are not affiliated with Novell. I do not think we will have the money to pay for the participation in the event your friend is organizing, but we certainly will be glad to help out with content anyway. If you can think of any form of cooperation that will benefit both parties, please get in touch with me again. Thank you, Alex Maier On 3/23/06, Chris Preimesberger <cpreimesberger(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > I am a reporter at eWEEK.com, but I am using a personal affiliation with a > friend on the following project. > > A colleague of mine, Tom Donoghue, runs a couple of decent sites, > DevTownStation.com and OpenEnterpriseTrends.com. He is starting to get into > online "events" to help his business grow. He did his first interactive > online event recently > > Tom asked me to help him with a new online event, to be called "Open > Enterprise Trends Desktop Demo Summit" or something more sexy than that-- we > don't know yet. This would give companies a chance to showcase their desktop > software (Fedora 5?) in a coordinated, organized event (perhaps 4 to 5 hours > in length) in which users log in for free and hear a panel discussion, > company pitches, and see actual demos of the products online. Uses also can > ask questions at appointed times to the companies. > > Naturally, the companies showcasing their work would be sponsoring the > event, and therein lies where the costs would be for Novell, for example. > I'm not sure what the participation fee would be; Tom could tell you that. > But to be involved in a neutral-host, highly publicized (we hope!) event > like that -- might Novell be interested? > > Let me know. If so, I can have Tom call you and give more info. > > /cp > > Chris J. Preimesberger > IT Editor/Writer > Redwood City, Calif. > (650) 780-9200 office -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] About being an ambassador!
by mosp 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

Hi! I am writing because I am not sure if its an good idea for me to be an ambassador anymore. I have started an education and have almost no time for anything else. I havent been able to attend any meetings lately because of my studies. Either I am in school or I am sleeping. I still promote Fedora, still help out when people need it and write small guides in swedish. Which i will continue to do regardless of what status i have. I like being an ambassador, but i will leave any decisions up to you to make when it comes to me and being an ambassador. I will not be able to attend to any meetings as things are today. I have very little time and resources to attend shows and whatever. The work i can do for fedora is what i am doing now. Being someone who users can contact when needed (through www.linuxportalen.se), write small guides in swedish and continue to answer fedora related questions on IRC. Well, i enjoy to be an ambassador but i dont think i am able to put down the time that i think you want an ambassador to do. Regards, Mikael Jacobsson Swedish Ambassador

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fwd: LugRadio Live 2006 - Fedora BOF
by Alex 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

Had the ambassadors-list address misspelt. Re-sending to ambassadors. a ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alex Maier <lxmaier(a)gmail.com> Date: Mar 23, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Re: LugRadio Live 2006 - Fedora BOF To: Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> Cc: fedora-ambassadors(a)redhat.com, fedora-list(a)redhat.com, fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com This is great news Gavin! Please let the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (Famsco) know if you need any support for this. Thank you, Alex On 3/23/06, Gavin Henry <ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com> wrote: > Dear Lists, > > I've been invited to run a Fedora BOF at this years LugRadio Live event: > > http://lugradio.org/live/2006/index.php/Main_Page > > It's a 2-Day Event. List of speakers so far is: > > Latest Speakers > > * Mark Shuttleworth - Ubuntu > * Gervase Markham - TBC > * Bastien Nocera - GNOME development and Fedora > * Simon Phipps - Open Source and Sun > * Richard Moore - IBM and Open Source > * Jonathan Haslam - DTrace > * Steve Coast - OpenStreetmap > * Kat Goodwin, Jen Phillips and Phated - Women in Open Source > * Edward Hervey - PiTiVi > * Scott James Remnant - Ubuntu > * Barbie - Messagelabs and Perl > * Mirco Müller - Lowfat - a natural way to view your files...with a twist > * Sarah Ewen - Linux on Playstation 2 > * Bruno Bord - This Talk May Contain Swearing > * Jonathan Riddell - KDE 4 and Kubuntu Dapper > * Matthew Bloch - Virtualisation and Bytemark > * Alex Hudson - Hula > * Martin Vogel - BBC Action Network > * Ian Lynch - OpenDocument > * Martijn van de Streek - Ubuntu > * Michael Meeks - OpenOffice.org > * Matthew Garrett - Linux and Laptops > * John Leach - Everybody Loves Eric Raymond > * Elliot Smith - Ruby On Rails > * Paul Cooper - OpenAdvantage > * Tom Steinberg - MySociety and Pledgebank > * Ewan Spence - TBC > * Christian Schaller - GStreamer > > Latest Exhibitors > > * CentOS > * Joomla! > * UKLinux > * MythTV > * Bytemark Hosting > * OpenDocument Fellowship > * KDE/Kubuntu > * O'Reilly > > So quite high-profile! > > Might also be doing a talk on Catalyst with one of the Catalyst Devel Team. > > I was planning to talk about Fedora Docs and plans for FC6? > > Anyone other ideas? > > Can we get any goodies to give away? > > Can/do we have a Blurb for these kinds of things to put in the main > LugRadio Site? > > Thoughts most welcome! > > Thanks, > > Gavin. > > > > -- > Kind Regards, > > Gavin Henry. > Managing Director. > > T +44 (0) 1224 279484 > M +44 (0) 7930 323266 > F +44 (0) 1224 742001 > E ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com > > Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). > > http://www.suretecsystems.com/ > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org

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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Meeting Reminder: Thursday, March 23, 2006, 22:00 UTC
by Alex 23 Mar '06

23 Mar '06

Please be there! I have not yet submitted a meeting summary for the past meeting to the list, but you can find a transcript here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings Thank you, Alex -- Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org

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