Hi, all!
I have attached my first draft of the F13 release banner, please give me some feedback. I especially want to know if the second rocket replacing the number one in 13 is too much and/or if it is too hard to grog at first sight. The background rocket image is from NASA under public domain [1].
Fire away, Fab
[1] http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/BROWSE/rocket_launch_1.html
# Fabian A. Scherschel # Podcaster, Blogger, Fedora Contributor # https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FabianScherschel
On 04/06/2010 12:09 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
I have attached my first draft of the F13 release banner, please give me some feedback. I especially want to know if the second rocket replacing the number one in 13 is too much and/or if it is too hard to grog at first sight. The background rocket image is from NASA under public domain [1].
I think your feeling is correct the rocket standing for "1" is too much (you already have one rocket in the image) and hard to understand, I had to think what the "3" standing alone is for.
Also, I am not sure about the window and fire overlap, it the window transparent and we see the fire behind it?
Finally, an empty screen is plain and boring, maybe you can live it up by having some apps/windows open.
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 04/06/2010 12:09 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: I think your feeling is correct the rocket standing for "1" is too much (you already have one rocket in the image) and hard to understand, I had to think what the "3" standing alone is for.
Yeah... I had that feeling...
Also, I am not sure about the window and fire overlap, it the window transparent and we see the fire behind it?
Well, I kind of wanted to make it look as if the rocket was in front of the window. Might be that it doesn't work since the rocket is slightly ephemeral... I can have the window cover part of the fire trail, no problem.
Finally, an empty screen is plain and boring, maybe you can live it up by having some apps/windows open.
Hmmm.... I wanted to leave it as simple as possible. Some of the screens on the other banners seemed too crowded.
Thanks for your input, Nicu! More, more.... ;)
Fab
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:19:47AM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 04/06/2010 12:09 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: I think your feeling is correct the rocket standing for "1" is too much (you already have one rocket in the image) and hard to understand, I had to think what the "3" standing alone is for.
Yeah... I had that feeling...
Also, I am not sure about the window and fire overlap, it the window transparent and we see the fire behind it?
Well, I kind of wanted to make it look as if the rocket was in front of the window. Might be that it doesn't work since the rocket is slightly ephemeral... I can have the window cover part of the fire trail, no problem.
Yeah, that seems like a good solution since otherwise it seems like the rocket is kind of puny! :-D
Finally, an empty screen is plain and boring, maybe you can live it up by having some apps/windows open.
Hmmm.... I wanted to leave it as simple as possible. Some of the screens on the other banners seemed too crowded.
Thanks for your input, Nicu! More, more.... ;)
If you reduce the angle of the window just slightly, that might give you a bit more real estate to work with. It's widescreen, right?
Hi, Paul!
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
If you reduce the angle of the window just slightly, that might give you a bit more real estate to work with. It's widescreen, right?
I can do that, yeah. The screenshot was taken on my machine, currently running Goddard. It's 1440x900. I thought widescreen looked more modern since most screens are widescreen these days... :)
Fab
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OK.... Here's the second iteration on the release banner, paired down a bit based on the first round of feedback. What do you think?
Fab
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On 04/09/2010 09:25 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK.... Here's the second iteration on the release banner, paired down a bit based on the first round of feedback. What do you think?
I liked better the realistic rocket, not it looks to me too obvious as an image manipulation.
Yes, the realistic rocket is much better. With the glow on it it looks like a sword to me... Instead of having a rocket escaping a computer screen, I think the approach of a rocket escaping a planet that looks like a screen is better. So, I think a trail a bit around the screen (not at the back of it) would look good. An other idea, the angle of the window reminds me of the compiz cube...
Anyway, good job :)
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.rowrote:
On 04/09/2010 09:25 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK.... Here's the second iteration on the release banner, paired down a bit based on the first round of feedback. What do you think?
I liked better the realistic rocket, not it looks to me too obvious as an image manipulation.
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Hi, again!
Sorry for the delay, I'm pretty busy ATM planning a conference and whatnot... ;)
This is a third version of the banner. Back to the realistic rocket. I think this one is the simplest, possibly cleanest version. Should I change the screenshot to display more windows etc? Notice that the firetrail is behind the window now.
Fab
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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Antonakoglou Konstantinos anton.cost@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, the realistic rocket is much better. With the glow on it it looks like a sword to me... Instead of having a rocket escaping a computer screen, I think the approach of a rocket escaping a planet that looks like a screen is better. So, I think a trail a bit around the screen (not at the back of it) would look good. An other idea, the angle of the window reminds me of the compiz cube...
Anyway, good job :)
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 04/09/2010 09:25 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK.... Here's the second iteration on the release banner, paired down a bit based on the first round of feedback. What do you think?
I liked better the realistic rocket, not it looks to me too obvious as an image manipulation.
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Yes, and I'd make sure you have the new goddard-backgrounds package installed to make the screenshot too. Thanks for working on this Fabian!
Paul
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 03:24:35PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
Hi, again!
Sorry for the delay, I'm pretty busy ATM planning a conference and whatnot... ;)
This is a third version of the banner. Back to the realistic rocket. I think this one is the simplest, possibly cleanest version. Should I change the screenshot to display more windows etc? Notice that the firetrail is behind the window now.
Fab
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Antonakoglou Konstantinos anton.cost@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, the realistic rocket is much better. With the glow on it it looks like a sword to me... Instead of having a rocket escaping a computer screen, I think the approach of a rocket escaping a planet that looks like a screen is better. So, I think a trail a bit around the screen (not at the back of it) would look good. An other idea, the angle of the window reminds me of the compiz cube...
Anyway, good job :)
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 04/09/2010 09:25 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK.... Here's the second iteration on the release banner, paired down a bit based on the first round of feedback. What do you think?
I liked better the realistic rocket, not it looks to me too obvious as an image manipulation.
-- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/
OK, cool. Need to pull those updates down. Will take new screenshots tomorrow and work on it some more. Thanks for being so open and inviting people to work on Fedora, the atmosphere in this community is truly outstanding! :)
Fab
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, and I'd make sure you have the new goddard-backgrounds package installed to make the screenshot too. Thanks for working on this Fabian!
Paul
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 03:24:35PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
Hi, again!
Sorry for the delay, I'm pretty busy ATM planning a conference and whatnot... ;)
This is a third version of the banner. Back to the realistic rocket. I think this one is the simplest, possibly cleanest version. Should I change the screenshot to display more windows etc? Notice that the firetrail is behind the window now.
Fab
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Antonakoglou Konstantinos anton.cost@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, the realistic rocket is much better. With the glow on it it looks like a sword to me... Instead of having a rocket escaping a computer screen, I think the approach of a rocket escaping a planet that looks like a screen is better. So, I think a trail a bit around the screen (not at the back of it) would look good. An other idea, the angle of the window reminds me of the compiz cube...
Anyway, good job :)
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 04/09/2010 09:25 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK.... Here's the second iteration on the release banner, paired down a bit based on the first round of feedback. What do you think?
I liked better the realistic rocket, not it looks to me too obvious as an image manipulation.
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel fabsh@lamerk.org wrote:
This is a third version of the banner. Back to the realistic rocket. I think this one is the simplest, possibly cleanest version. Should I change the screenshot to display more windows etc? Notice that the firetrail is behind the window now.
The firetail is too big. The rocket looks like a bullet
The window should cover more of the fire tail ... shift the rocket +firetail to the left
More colour options?
Best
A. Mani
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM, A. Mani a.mani.cms@gmail.com wrote:
The firetail is too big. The rocket looks like a bullet
Hmmm.... It was taken from a real photo. That's an Saturn V rocket with normal fire trail in atmosphere.
More colour options?
As in? Aubergine? Just kidding..... ;)
Fab
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OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
Fab
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel fabsh@lamerk.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM, A. Mani a.mani.cms@gmail.com wrote:
The firetail is too big. The rocket looks like a bullet
Hmmm.... It was taken from a real photo. That's an Saturn V rocket with normal fire trail in atmosphere.
More colour options?
As in? Aubergine? Just kidding..... ;)
Fab
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В Пнд, 26/04/2010 в 09:30 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel пишет:
OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
Fab
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel fabsh@lamerk.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM, A. Mani a.mani.cms@gmail.com wrote:
The firetail is too big. The rocket looks like a bullet
Hmmm.... It was taken from a real photo. That's an Saturn V rocket with normal fire trail in atmosphere.
More colour options?
As in? Aubergine? Just kidding..... ;)
Fab
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I think there should be more «mess» on the desktop! :)
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 09:30:37AM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
I think it looks great. I made the following tweaks:
* Kerned the "13" closer together, which we regularly have to do given the narrowness of the '1'. Regenerated the glow accordingly.
* Moved the logo and its drop shadow/glow over toward the newly-kerned number '1'.
The new images are found here, in PNG and XCF:
http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/images/f13-banner/
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 09:30:37AM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
I think it looks great. I made the following tweaks:
- Kerned the "13" closer together, which we regularly have to do given
the narrowness of the '1'. Regenerated the glow accordingly.
- Moved the logo and its drop shadow/glow over toward the newly-kerned
number '1'.
The new images are found here, in PNG and XCF:
Cool! Thanks, Paul! :)
Fab
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 03:51:50PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 09:30:37AM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
I think it looks great. I made the following tweaks:
- Kerned the "13" closer together, which we regularly have to do given
the narrowness of the '1'. Regenerated the glow accordingly.
- Moved the logo and its drop shadow/glow over toward the newly-kerned
number '1'.
The new images are found here, in PNG and XCF:
Cool! Thanks, Paul! :)
If there aren't any objections, I think this has been around the block enough at this point and can probably go to the Websites team.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 03:51:50PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 09:30:37AM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
I think it looks great. I made the following tweaks:
- Kerned the "13" closer together, which we regularly have to do given
the narrowness of the '1'. Regenerated the glow accordingly.
- Moved the logo and its drop shadow/glow over toward the newly-kerned
number '1'.
The new images are found here, in PNG and XCF:
Cool! Thanks, Paul! :)
If there aren't any objections, I think this has been around the block enough at this point and can probably go to the Websites team.
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I've commited this image into the fedora-web repo. You should be able to see it at http://stg.fedoraproject.org
Sijis
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 08:05:26PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 03:51:50PM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 09:30:37AM +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
OK, here's Mk. 4 of the banner. This time with Goddard release wallpaper in the screenshot and some apps open. I will be in England until the 5th and probably busy / hard to reach, so I've attached the XCF source file if people want to have a play in the meantime.
Comments still welcome. :)
I think it looks great. I made the following tweaks:
- Kerned the "13" closer together, which we regularly have to do given
the narrowness of the '1'. Regenerated the glow accordingly.
- Moved the logo and its drop shadow/glow over toward the newly-kerned
number '1'.
The new images are found here, in PNG and XCF:
Cool! Thanks, Paul! :)
If there aren't any objections, I think this has been around the block enough at this point and can probably go to the Websites team.
I put the files here, but I'm not sure that's the right place:
http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora%20Release%20Theme...
Can someone move them and let me know the proper place, if I got it wrong?
I also notified the web team so they can add the banner to the site.
В Втр, 06/04/2010 в 11:09 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel пишет:
I have attached my first draft of the F13 release banner, please give me some feedback. I especially want to know if the second rocket replacing the number one in 13 is too much and/or if it is too hard to grog at first sight. The background rocket image is from NASA under public domain [1].
Unfortunately, I'm not in the Design Team, but I couldn't resist giving feedback. :)
I like the image, though a bold release number is what we are all used to, — it appears at the banner of each release. And the window corner Nicu mentioned... yeah, the rocket is much more of a background object in this particular image because everyone knows the comparison of size of a rocket and one of a computer screen, it puts the rocket back no matter where the fire is.
But to me it's nice.
On 04/06/2010 12:41 PM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm not in the Design Team, but I couldn't resist giving feedback. :)
Now that you provided feedback, we can call you part of the team :p
Seriously, we are not that arrogant wanting to receive only positive things for a small inner circle. Is important to have input from many people and various views and is important for the feedback to be constructive.
I like the image, though a bold release number is what we are all used to, — it appears at the banner of each release. And the window corner Nicu mentioned... yeah, the rocket is much more of a background object in this particular image because everyone knows the comparison of size of a rocket and one of a computer screen, it puts the rocket back no matter where the fire is.
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 04/06/2010 12:41 PM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm not in the Design Team, but I couldn't resist giving feedback. :)
Now that you provided feedback, we can call you part of the team :p
Seriously, we are not that arrogant wanting to receive only positive things for a small inner circle. Is important to have input from many people and various views and is important for the feedback to be constructive.
I like the image, though a bold release number is what we are all used to, -- it appears at the banner of each release. And the window corner Nicu mentioned... yeah, the rocket is much more of a background object in this particular image because everyone knows the comparison of size of a rocket and one of a computer screen, it puts the rocket back no matter where the fire is.
Hi all!
My view on it, is that two rockets are way to much for one banner. Also the release number seems a little cramed down on the right and it should be a little more prominent (maybe on the center of the height?)
How about expanding those beautiful lines of the wallpaper outside the screen? Thus the screen should feel like "one" with the banner.
Anyway very nice job Fabian!
~π
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 11:09 +0200, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
Hi, all!
I have attached my first draft of the F13 release banner, please give me some feedback. I especially want to know if the second rocket replacing the number one in 13 is too much and/or if it is too hard to grog at first sight. The background rocket image is from NASA under public domain [1].
Wow Fab, this is sweet! I really like the angle you've got the screen at; it's an inviting angle, it makes you feel drawn in. The coloring and lighting is perfect. I think I do agree with a couple of critique points other folks made:
- Because the rocket is much smaller than the screen in proportion, it looks a little strange for the fire to run on top of the screenshot. But I understand wanting to have some cool fiery effects, too. Maybe have the main stream run behind the screenshot, but have some fire curls curl upwards both behind and in front of the screenshot?
- I think having two rockets is also a little over the top - you've set up such a nice and clean composition here, having the two makes it a bit more complicated. I'd pick one or the other. I think the white rocket '1' actually looks quite nice and has some really nice lines. A few things maybe to consider:
- remove the photographic rocket, move the 'f' and the '3' up so the rocket reads more like a one (so the '3' is aligned with the solid part of the white rocket rather than halfway up the flames) and maybe replace the diagonal the current photographic rocket creates with some swirly stars...
- remove the white rocket from the 'f13' mark in the lower right, and replace the photographic rocket with the white one - maybe keep the orange flames or maybe do white flames.
- Just a totally weird idea you can throw out - your composition made me think of it - make it look like the rocket is 'taking off' from the swirl in the screenshot's wallpaper... might have to back the screenshot up a bit and angle it more towards the ground to achieve this. Not sure if it'd work either.
Awesome work Fab, I'm really impressed :)
~m
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