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pdf toolchain notes & suggestions
by Mark Johnson 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

Hi All, I believe the broken part of the FDP XML -> PDF toolchain is due to the passivetex component of the TeX backend. After discussing the situation with Sebastian Rahtz, the upstream developer of passivetex, I sadly report that passivetex is no longer being developed or maintained. The last update, in fact, was in November 2003. When I asked Sebastian about the status of passivetex, here's what he had to say (he gave permission to post his remarks, BTW): > PassiveTeX does what it does, ie about 90% of FO, and thats where > its frozen. Fixing the bugs are now so hard, I cannot do them. The > decision to parse the XML using TeX seemed like a good idea, > but in practice its a dead end. If I was starting again I'd work > on a translator to plain TeX markup. thats doable, but a lot of > work. > > [...] > > I convert my XML direct to LaTeX, and process that. It gives > better results, faster :-} > > [...] > > others may disagree, but I don't see this particular path (parsing > XSLFO using xmltex) ever being able to work 100% Hence I think it's time to consider a different toolchain for pdf output. Two possibilities come to mind: FOP [1] and dblatex [2]. IMO fop would be the better choice as customizing the output requires XSL expertise, whereas dblatex requires LaTeX expertise to customize the output. If we were to adopt FOP, it would be nice to get it working under gcj (via gij), so that we stick to a 100% free toolchain, though I think it will also run under kaffe [3]. Some testing would clearly need to be done... And if such a toolchain proves sufficient for the needs of the FDP, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to find someone to package FOP. I hope this info helps us get to work on building a new XML -> PDF toolchain:) Anyway, that's my $0.02. Cheers, Mark [1] http://xml.apache.org/fop/ [2] http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/ [3] http://www.kaffe.org/ -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Mark Johnson <mjohnson(a)redhat.com> OS Product Documentation Engineering, Red Hat, Inc. <http://www.redhat.com> Tel: 919.754.4151 Fax: 919.754.3708 GPG fp: DBEA FA3C C46A 70B5 F120 568B 89D5 4F61 C07D E242

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kernel-compilation-tutorial
by Kevin H. Hobbs 07 Oct '04

07 Oct '04

I just got frustrated with the flame war on kernel building. I'd like to at least try to put together something along the lines of documentation. So far I've gone to the fabulous steps of: export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@rhlinux.redhat.com:/usr/local/CVS cvs -z3 login cvs -z3 co fedora-docs cd fedora-docs/ cp -r example-tutorial/ kernel-compilation-tutorial cd kernel-compilation-tutorial/ mv example-tutorial-en.xml kernel-compilation-tutorial-en.xml gvim ~/.vimrc gvim kernel-compilation-tutorial-en.xml gvim Makefile make All this is useless except that the page is no longer blank.

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Look of Fedora docs
by Vladimir Djokic 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

good day, writers. while doing some mockups of docs look for fsn.org.yu at http://www.gnome-ppp.org/fsn/template.html, i thought about doing some work for fedora community. what i want is to `upgrade the look` of fedora docs? should i try do something pretty (like novell with novell linux desktop will have) or is it a no-no? to do some mockups so you can see what i'm talking about? bye, vladeck. -- "Theres no room for ideals in this mechanical place. There has to be passion. "

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Missing end-tag in the documentation guide
by christian.huegel 30 Sep '04

30 Sep '04

Hi everyone, i´ve noticed a small error on the documentation guide (Chapter 6.29) The line: <xref linkend="ch-tutorial"><xref> and <xref linkend="s1-tutorial-parent"></xref> should be: <xref linkend="ch-tutorial"></xref> and <xref linkend="s1-tutorial-parent"></xref> It´s a missing end-tag. Can you correct this? Have a nice day Christian

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Not nice.
by Dave Pawson 29 Sep '04

29 Sep '04

http://www.rollerweblogger.org/page/roller/20040928#fleury_on_open_source_g… -- Regards DaveP. XSLT&Docbook FAQ http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl

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Docbook quick reference card
by Dave Pawson 27 Sep '04

27 Sep '04

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/docbook-apps/2003-q2/msg00834.html Quick summary of the major docbook elements. May be of help? -- Regards DaveP. XSLT&Docbook FAQ http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl

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Good bittorrent Client
by Luis Motta 25 Sep '04

25 Sep '04

Where I find a good bit torrent client? Thaks! fedora Core 2 User Brasil (folks, it is an "S")

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Apacheconf docs screenshots
by Vladimir Djokic 23 Sep '04

23 Sep '04

good day, could you please update (if already not) screenshots of apacheconf in docs, since the new is upon apacheconf? bye, vladeck. -- "Theres no room for ideals in this mechanical place. There has to be passion. "

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version control on website
by Karsten Wade 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

How are we going to organize different versions of documents on the website? Option 1. By FC version, then document. f.r.c/docs -> FC2 -> Tutorial 1 -> Tutorial 2 ... -> FC3 -> Tutorial 1 -> Tutorial 2 ... Option 2. By document, then FC version. f.r.c/docs -> Tutorial 1 -> FC2 -> FC3 -> Tutorial 2 -> FC2 -> FC3 ... Option 3. Other ideas? -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, Tech Writer a lemon is just a melon in disguise http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41

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draft notice text
by Tammy Fox 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

I was about to add the common draft notice file from bug #132415, but I wanted to discuss the wording of the notice a bit more. (This was discussed on the Hardening Doc Preview thread, but I am starting a new one with a more appropriate subject.) The text proposed for the note is as follows: <note> <title>Draft Notice</title> <para>This version of this document is not yet affiliated with the Fedora Docs Project. It is a draft, and may be submitted to the project for review/approval at a later date. Until that time, that document will be receiving constant updates, and may change frequently. </para> </note> Saying that it isn't affliliated with the Fedora Docs Project might be misleading. It is being worked on for the project, but it isn't final yet. Also, it would be nice to tell readers how to help with the document if they are reading it. So, how about the following: <note> <title>DRAFT</title> <para> This is a draft version of the document. It is subject to change at any time and may not have been tested for technical accuracy yet. If you find any errors, please report them via Bugzilla in bug &BUG-NUM;. </para> </note> Then, in the parent file, the entity &BUG-NUM; would a link to the Bugzilla entry for that document. Thoughts? Tammy

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