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FDSCo results
by Karsten Wade 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

With a slight delay for the holidays to get the results :), the following persons will be staying or joining the Fedora Documentation Steering Committee (FDSCo): Bart Couvreur John Babich Jared Smith Congratulations to those chosen. All candidates are doing great work in Fedora Docs, and by virtue of that are already leaders within the project. When we next have a round of formal elections, I hope you all consider running again. We'll have our first FDSCo meeting after the new year. Members - let's work out a meeting time. To start, we need to refresh our matrix: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/MeetingTimeMatr… You can refer to the old one[1] for what you put in last time. Our goal is to pick a meeting time or two; we can alternate between then, if that works. Another option is to have two meetings a month and do more preparation and work in them. Open for discussion! Thanks - Karsten [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BobJensen/MeetingTimes -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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DUG
by dan＠new2linux.com 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Hello all, It's been a busy couple weeks and I haven't had much time to get much work done on the DUG. I'm going on a business trip for a couple days and had planned on spending the weekend catching up on the DUG. IIRC there was talk of having the DUG complete by sometime next week? What needs to be done? Regards, Dan O'Brien

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The Brennan Home Server HOWTO
by Timothy Murphy 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Miles Brennan said: -------------------------------------------------------------- Although the document was written to suit Fedora Core, I tried to maintain generic configuration and commands where possible so other distros could also benefit from it. Also stayed away from the GUIs. Converting the plain HTML version of the document to wiki format was much more painful than first anticipated. I wanted to keep the feel of the original HOWTO styled document, as I believe they are much easier to read and follow than the current wiki construct. However the wiki code does not easily support the formatting of tables, cells, preformatted text and other basis formatting. Working in RAW wiki code was very time consuming. Here is the draft of the HOWTO I worked on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ServerInstallationGuide I installed moinmoin on my own server to work on the formatting issues a little easier and found I needed to make some significant changes to the CSS for the document to look and feel the way I wanted it to. It was also mentioned at the time that FDP would be moving to a Plone and Zope based system, making these type of migrations easier. Although I had no experience with these two applications, I was happy to try something new. I eventually gave up on transferring the documentation because the new system has not been implemented and I found the wiki frustrating. If FDP is still willing to accept the documentation, I am happy to change the licensing and Tim is prepared to start some work on it. Perhaps we start a new thread on updating the HOWTO and moving it into the FDP. Open to suggestions. -------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not quite sure if I am the Tim referred to here, but if I am then I would be happy to try my hand at bringing the HOWTO into the Fedora Documentation Project. On the content side, there are a couple of points that I wondered about: 1. You talk a little about PPPoE in chapter 5. Is this still necessary? I had the impression that all *DSL modems now do this for you, and basically give an Ethernet connection to the Internet? 2. Does one have to understand IPtables any more (chapter 6)? I use shorewall, which seems to me to make this bit of life much easier. Am I right in thinking shorewall is more or less the default Fedora firewall nowadays? 3. Do people still use FTP (chapter 14)? 4. I wonder if a chapter on SVN might be worth while? But these are probably better discussed off the list, if indeed I am given the task of trying to bring your HOWTO (and it would remain your HOWTO) into the FDP? Tim

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Overview rewrite
by Rahul Sundaram 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Hi, Finally did a quick rewrite of the overview page that I have been wanting to do for a while now. Appreciate a review and additional content. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview Rahul

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copying+pasting screen examples
by Murray McAllister 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

Hi, I am trying to re-do the DNS section for use with RPMs instead of tarball. I have just noticed that I can't correctly copy and paste the examples I have done using {{{ }}}. I assume these will be converted to <screen> tags eventually, maybe the problem will go away then. For example, copying the /etc/named.conf options section from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/DNSB… appears as the following in vim: options { directory "/etc/bind"; allow--query {any;}; recursion no; pid--file "/var/run/named/named.pid"; zone--statistics yes; statistics-f-ile "/etc/bind/namedstats.log"; }; There are double "-" characters, however these characters did not appear when I copied them from vim into here :( . These options will not be valid when double "-" characters are used. I'm not sure if this is a huge problem, but I thought it would be ncie if people could copy and paste these samples to get a basic working configuration before changing it to suit their needs. I was thinking of putting a warning to look out for this, but I thought it would look sloppy. Has anyone had this problem before? Kind Regards, Murray. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pub 1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18] Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46 20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]

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wiki questions, Moin versions, and click-through CLA
by Karsten Wade 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

Mike and other fellow Fedorans: We've discussed this a small amount on f-infrastructure-list, and even more on IRC. Can we run a beta of Moin 1.6 so we can get the click-through CLA? What do you want to do about the wiki, in general? The poor wiki beast. It sits in the middle of all of us, and while Infrastructure owns it operationally ("keep the lights on"), who owns it spiritually? Should that be Fedora Docs? Could that be Fedora Docs? Be careful, those may be different answers. :) What would such an ownership/stewardship role mean? For one, we would have to push through the click-through CLA and enable an army of people to own and help maintain page quality. As Wikipedia has learned before us. For other thoughts here, I open the floor to you all ... - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Fedora Docs Platform - Roles
by Jonathan Steffan 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

So yes. More Plone questions. Role = User class = Group membership in FAS Who are going to be our editors? Are they "gods" over content objects? Do we have multiple level of editors or do we just say "you're on the team... go edit"? Do we have multiple tiers of workflow permissions (who can move a document between states, for example) or do we just say "wow, you'll help? here are your permissions"? >From what I've taken from MikeM we will want to require special permissions for users to even be able to create content, is this another role? Do we need "workspaces" in the sense "create anything here, we can all edit it we can all see it, but the public can't"? Do we lock down plone to be super secure and do very little at first and then open it up with new releases? (Yes, this causes me a little more work making sure changes are upstream compatible but i think this concept is worth it) What is the state of LDAP queries to FAS? -- Jonathan Steffan daMaestro Fedora Unity - http://fedoraunity.org/ GPG Fingerprint: 93A2 3E2F DC26 5570 3472 5B16 AD12 6CE7 0D86 AF59

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At last
by Karl Larsen 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

I followed the instructions for putting a ascii enclosed key into mit on their web site and it worked. At least it said it did. Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7

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more observations on fedora release notes
by Robert P. J. Day 29 Dec '07

29 Dec '07

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f8/en_US/sn-Multimedia.html "GNOME users can burn directly from the Nautilus file manager, choose the gnomebaker or graveman packages ..." - graveman? yum doesn't know anything about graveman in the standard repos. "KDE users can use the robust k3b package for these tasks ..." - you don't need to be running KDE to use k3b. but you knew that. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ========================================================================

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News of the Election Results
by John Babich 29 Dec '07

29 Dec '07

Fedora Docs Steering Committee Members: What are the results of the recent FDSCo election? I would like to publish them in the FWN for this week. Best Regards, John Babich FWN Beat Writer, Fedora Docs Project

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