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CVS access
by Serhat Güngör 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Hi, I still can't access the Documents CVS Repo. My membership in the cvsdocs group isn't approved. Do I have to do something else? Serhat ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Serhat Güngör <cepxat(a)gmail.com> Date: Jul 14, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: Self Introduction : Serhat GUNGOR To: For participants of the Documentation Project < fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com> I already singed up for access to the cvsdocs group in the Fedora Account System but my membership isn't approved. I think it must be approved by an admin. When I look my membership from the accounts home i see as the following. Group NameUsernameRole DomainRole TypeRole StatusSponsor ambassadors<https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/groupbox.cgi?_editme=Edit&name=amb…> cepxat<https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/userbox.cgi?_editme=Edit&username=…> user approved *Unneeded* cla_done<https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/groupbox.cgi?_editme=Edit&name=cla…> cepxat<https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/userbox.cgi?_editme=Edit&username=…> None user approved *Unneeded* cvsdocs<https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/groupbox.cgi?_editme=Edit&name=cvs…> cepxat<https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/userbox.cgi?_editme=Edit&username=…> user unapproved *Unneeded* What should i do for to be approved? Thanks, Serhat On 7/14/06, Paul W. Frields < stickster(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 23:11 +0300, Serhat Güngör wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm Serhat GUNGOR from Istanbul, Turkey. I'm a Computer Engineer and > > using linux nearly 4 years. Before Fedora i was using Red Hat. Till > > last week i was working as system administrator in Istanbul Technical > > University(ITU) which is the one of the big universities of Turkey. > > Mostly Red Hat Enterprise Lİnux is used there in the server side. In > > the client side more than 1000 computers are Fedora. We started a a > > Linux Education program in ITU which is called ITU Linux Academy > > ( http://ila.itu.edu.tr -- page is in Turkish) and had lots of > > students from university or out of the university. Now i'm working at > > Turkey's biggest GSM operator. > > > > I am working on Fedora Translation Project and i will be leading the > > Turkish team. And to make people join the translation project, firstly > > i want to translate quick-start-guide to Turkish. > > Welcome Serhat. If you haven't already signed up for access to the > cvsdocs group in the Fedora Account System, please do so. We're proud > to have you and all our hard-working translators aboard. They've been > doing a splendid job recently and we're hoping to have lots of > translations for documents out for the FC6 cycle. > > We are very close to having release notes in the i18n.redhat.com system, > so keep a lookout there. We'll of course post to this list and > fedora-trans-list when it's ready. > > If you need any help getting started here, please let us know. > > -- > Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board > Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > > -- > fedora-docs-list mailing list > fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list >

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Suggestions for system home page
by Dimitris Glezos 12 Aug '06

12 Aug '06

OK, I'll throw yet another idea on the table here. :) I sat back and thought a bit about the default home page of the browser, served at file:///usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html. I feel it isn't really what the users should see as a system home page. What we should aim is a page that feels like "home", something welcoming, a collection of useful information for the desktop. Some random ideas follow: 1. For start, that page should be a collection of useful documentation links, with clever use of graphics and positioning. 2. Ideas of docs that should be included are a desktop guide, the release notes, FAQs and links to other useful documentation, like fedorafaq.org, fedora news, fedora people, etc. Links to online content should be specially noted, because not everybody is 24/7 connected. 3. The presentation should be in a pleasant way, keeping in mind that the initial page should be short, simple, sweet and handy. So that the user will *want* to use them, to learn more and browse through the pages. Also, it should have a differenet look and feel than fp.org. 4. An infobox with "docs news" would be nice, like "From July 2006, a new guide that might interest you, is available at http://...". Could be irritating though. 5. Text ideas: "This is a collection of documentation about your system, a place where you can explore the world of Fedora." ... "If this is the first time you are using Fedora, be sure to check out the following documents:" 6. Ideally, the user should be able to search in this (small) documentation database. Or, even better, be able to aggregate content from various documents, like his doc db, the online docs and the wiki. Hell, we could even be able to aggregate there (or at a separate "live" page) latest planet posts, news, etc. Of course, this dynamic content is a totally different story. An example of a nice-looking splash home page is the initial screen of the Eclipse platform [1]. -dim [1]: Screenshot found on the web: http://207.56.100.120/221Spring2006/EclipseWelcomeGrab.jpg -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Fedora FAQs in Docs?
by Dimitris Glezos 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

Hi all. Are there any plans to move the FAQs from the wiki to the Docs? I'm not sure if it is really worth it, because a) FAQs are not the best way to write documentation and b) probably every answer is/will be included in or linked to the Guides (installation, desktop, etc). Nevertheless, FAQs *are* popular among users and so are websites like fedorafaq.org. Very linkable from outside, handy. Do you guys think we should migrate the FAQs to a Doc, probably maintained with the moinmoin export? This way we'll get them translated more too. -dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Uros Djokic
by Uros Djokic 29 Jul '06

29 Jul '06

Uros Djokic Belgrade,Serbia At the moment I am temporary maintaining of Asterisk Server running on Fedora. I want only to translate some of your documents like Fedora Weekly News to Serbian. I finished high school for junior-programmers and all Linux Courses on Electro-Techinc-Faculty in Belgrade. I have basic knowledge about Asterisk PBX, Apache Web Server, Squid,Proftpd,Postfix Mail Server,Samba,NTFs,MySQL and PostgreSQL but for now I plan only to translate your documents.Maybe in future when I gain some more experience I will try to write some documents. [uros@212-200-207-152 .ssh]$ gpg --fingerprint uros_djokic(a)yahoo.com pub 1024D/840304C5 2006-07-28 [expires: 2007-07-28] Key fingerprint = 3CF6 1F75 124D AE82 A9AF A67F 59E7 1312 8403 04C5 uid Uros Djokic (Prevodilac) <uros_djokic(a)yahoo.com> sub 2048g/76D06DA1 2006-07-28 [expires: 2007-07-28] Sincerely yours, Uros --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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merging PO files from i18n.redhat.com
by Karsten Wade 29 Jul '06

29 Jul '06

For all translators who have been working directly in cvs.fedoraproject.org: Tonight, new PO files were put in to cvs.fedoraproject.org from i18n.redhat.com. To protect against conflicts in the merge and losing work, I asked AS Alaam to send me certain, specific PO files. Those PO files are: el, fr, it. I will now email the three translators who last committed to those PO files in cvs.fedoraproject.org. Tomorrow we are going to be testing all languages, including the ones that build without error into the ISO. For the test3 release, we should all work in i18n.redhat.com; if you do not have an account with the Fedora Translation system, now is the time to get one. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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Aloha
by Edward Haddock 28 Jul '06

28 Jul '06

Aloha everyone, I am not sure what the proper procedures are but I need to discontinue, for the present, working with the Fedora Documentation Project. Rather than not saying anything at all, I want you all to know that due to personal reasons I have very little time to dedicate to the project and don't want to just lurk in the background. It is my hope that things will improve for me here and I can start contributing again. I am uncertain if I need to leave the email list or not. I will leave that up to the owners to decide. If left on the list I will continue to try and read posts and if I can offer my opinion and such but again, that is up to the owners. Thank you all for a very rewarding experience. I had hoped I could have contributed more. Mahalo, Edward

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Fedora Installation Guide writer opening
by Karsten Wade 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

There is an open author/maintainer position for the Fedora Installation Guide for FC6. It would be good to get a beta available for use for test3. This allows us to gain the advantage of release early, release often. This is a fairly important book and high profile. If you'd like to get involved in a meaningful documentation project, take a look at: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/fc5/ And contact us back here on this thread to discuss your participation. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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minutes FDSCo 25-Jul-2006
by Karsten Wade 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Quick minutes from a shortened meeting today (my inattentive fault). Full IRC log on fedora-dsco-list. Attending: ---------- Bob Jensen Karsten Wade Paul W. Frields Jesse Keating (guest) Elliot Lee (guest) * Need to fix our schedule page to be more focuses on doable tasks and less demoralizing (kwade task) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule * CVS sponsorship for translators is as follows: - Look to existing language for sponsor. - If none available, look to another language for a sponsor. - If none available and/or another language is the sponsor, have the new person recruit another translator from the existing project. ** Objective == provide backup and support for translators * MoinMoin upgrade has been put into OTRS as a ticket; McGrath assigned himself. More background from: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196691 * Toolchain changes are in the works, to be started when the test2 Web-only release notes are published, just in case. :) These changes are to make things more efficient, bring all content into the PO to be translated, and related issues. * stickster to recruit glezos for toolchain help. :) ## 30 ## -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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release notes ready for translation (FC6 test2)
by Karsten Wade 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

The release notes are ready for translation. We apologize for the delay (about 14 hours) as we work through new processes. The new POT file is found at: cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs/release-notes/devel/po/RELEASE-NOTES.pot The files in devel/ (and the docs-common module) have been tagged in CVS with "ready-for-translation-FC6-test2". If you have any questions, fedora-docs-list is probably the best place to ask. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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Problem with Wiki Theme
by Miles Brennan 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've had a little play around on the wiki and noticed that one of the themes doesn't seem to display properly when viewed with Windows IE. If I change the theme to "rightsidebar" under User Prefs, then some of the pages appear to display a large gap between the heading and main content area. It also seems to do it with "rightsidebarsmaller". It displays fine with Firefox on both Windows and Linux. Does anyone else notice this behaviour? Cheers, Miles -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (MingW32) iD8DBQFExgqScSPa0xQu/fARApyOAKC9xjpcltpQsUWGMHza8J8cHqLI6gCdHbm+ UpRmdHE6Dl2PbuwwzUJwx0k= =2X0G -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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