infrastructure January 2007

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Re: Yum deltarpm
by Toshio Kuratomi 21 Feb '07

21 Feb '07

On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 19:42 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > not sure I understand your question, but they way things should go is, > the client downloads the drpm, client side code combines client side > files from older rpm + the drpm into a new rpm. Then that new rpm is > installed. The required bandwidth should drop to 20%, the numbers need > some testing ofcourse, but I can imagine such savings. > SuSE did a lot of work on distributing the files as less than a whole rpm. Their original tool works as you say, with an "rpm patch file" that combines with an rpm on the client's system which is then installed. The newer tool that they were pushing a couple years ago was also able to upgrade files on the filesystem rather than going through the intermediate step of creating an rpm. I consider this method to be less desirable from a security standpoint than the first. -Toshio

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L10N tools: Increase quality of translations
by Dimitris Glezos 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

Hi all. Some members from the L10N project have identified some issues that need to be solved to make sure the translations of Fedora are of high quality. Some of them are infrastructure-related and at today's (-admin) meeting it was suggested to transfer the discussion here. I'm sure the folks at Red Hat are doing their best to keep the quality of the translations high. But the truth is that Fedora's image in the context of translations is not good; we do hear that a lot, from current and wanna-be members. We can and should work to improve it. Semi-translated applications are U-G-L-Y and shout "low QA" in our ears. Some possible ideas have been listed on the following page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks Please feel free to chip in and help us out correct whatever doesn't seem reasonable, break tasks into smaller tasks etc. The bigger picture of some of these problems are: * L10N of "local" applications (those listed on [1]) is poor; releases and package updates contain untranslated strings in many languages. This is unacceptable for a fully-localized desktop. * The barrier to contribute to the l10n (be it GUI or Docs) is higher than it should be (compared to other projects). * QA of the translations is difficult with the current tools. Some more concrete ideas to discuss that might concern the InfrProj and the RelEng team are: * Integrate better the handling of translation during a "local" package's lifecycle. Have a flag raised for a package update that introduces new strings so that translators can translate the new strings before the repackaging/updating. Include in the schedule for each release a "string freeze date" and a week later a "translation freeze date" and have all our packages rebuilt after the latter and before the actual release. * Move po files on their own cvsroot on cvs.fedoraproject.org to reduce complexity and maintenance and to increase security (with a new group). * Move the i18n status pages to Fedora servers (Plone/Turbogears?). Include a direct link to the pofiles from there so that new members can have something to work on before getting cvs access. * In the future, use Plone to automate the QA between team members (ie coordinators can review translations etc). * Start working with the complex and tricky path to upstream translations that no distribution has tackled yet in a successful way. Bring our translators closer to the upstream projects. Hope some of the above make sense. :) -d [1]: http://i18n.redhat.com/cgi-bin/i18n-status -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Mirror manager and Xen
by Mike McGrath 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

Matt has requested a public xen guest for Mirror Management. Anyone have issues with this? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/Mi… -Mike

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rawhide rebuilds on ppc?
by Matt Domsch 30 Jan '07

30 Jan '07

dwmw2 asked me if I could do my full rawhide rebuilds on PPC as well as x86_64 and i386. I don't have ppc hardware, and he doesn't have ppc hardware with enough disk space or a local rawhide mirror. :-) As it's just some scripts that call mock, could I run those on the ppc Extras builders in PHX? They use --uniqueext so they can't conflict with a normal Plague build job. Would need some disk space for the results directory (~20GB), and be able to export the results via a web server. I'd still do the i386 and x86_64 builds in my lab here as I have been. Thoughts? Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

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Hackfest schedule
by Mike McGrath 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/HackFest2007 Here's the schedule, please add anything you'd like to work on if you're going to be there. Those that know what time they'd like to work on their specific projects should include it on this page so others know when to show up if they want to help. Does anyone know the status of Brew? I seem to remember someone mentioning that the scheme would be availble already. -Mike

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Open archives?
by Rahul Sundaram 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi Why is the archives of this list not public? If sensitive details are being discussed in this list, the list membership itself should be moderated which is not the case at present. If anyone can join the list, I dont see any harm in letting search engines and other services index the content. Rahul

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Fedora Core 6 + Updates + Extras Respin size = 6Gb
by Jeroen Janssen 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hi, Just FYI, I build a Fedora Core 6 + Updates + Extras "respin" and the total DVD iso is currently 6Gb (I used pungi to build it, but I haven't used the resulting DVD for installation yet). I think with the impending merging of core & extras in F7, this means people either have to use dual-layer DVDs or there need to be two DVDs for installation purposes. (or someone needs to 'cut-down' the number of packages in F7 to get in to fit on 1 DVD). I also ended with about 10 CD isos, but I'm not going to use them. Best regards, Jeroen Janssen

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F7 & Infrastructure plan?
by Jeroen Janssen 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Hi, I was wondering with the upcoming F7 Test1 Release on 30 January 2007 are there any things for the infrastructure that need to be done yet? On a side node is there a clear overview of the infrastructure deliverables in relation with the major milestones of F7 (on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7 )? Best regards, Jeroen Janssen

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uid/gid in Accounts2 Schema
by Toshio Kuratomi 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

I just looked at the LDAP schema and noticed that there's no numeric userid/groupid field. We're going to need to carry over the userid and groupid from the database as those numerics are used in other databases that refer to records in the account system and on our servers as Unix uids. -Toshio

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QA project and a Xen Host
by Mike McGrath 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

We've only partially discussed this. wwoods has requested a Fedora QA project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/QA He's going to fill out some more detailed goals and description but I wanted to hear if there are any objections to this. I'm strongly in favor of setting it up and letting them go at it. -Mike

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