infrastructure September 2009

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hi, i newly joined fedora infrastructure group
by p sena 17 Sep '10

17 Sep '10

Hi, I am new to the fedora infrastructure group. I am going throug few of the links in the site to get a feel of the work. I have submitted my .ssh_rsa_key.pub from the site. I think I will get some intimation on this. Please someone can let me know further proceedings from here onwards. Cheers. Regards & Thanks Prabir Senapati mailto: senapati2001(a)yahoo.com

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Ok. Looks like this one _may_ fulfill our calendering needs. Testing required.
by susmit shannigrahi 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

Hi, I am quite "frightened" to take up this topic again and again lest you all be bored. But interestingly, this one http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/calender/ can fulfill all our requisites. But, I don't use a calender on my phone, so I never used remote export/import etc. And no surprise that I shall not be able to test it fully. So, if someone who is familiar with these help me out, it will be nice. Thanks. [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1197 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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hosts for rawhide build chroots - different rpm versions?
by Axel Thimm 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Hi, AFAIK the build hosts are RHEL5 (or maybe F10 by now?). At any rate the rpm used in rawhide is quite different than the ones from the hosts, how has this been solved in the build hosts? Has the hosting OS upgraded its rpm to be compatible to all hosted chroots? Or is the rpm within the chroot used? I'm asking in a double context: First I'd like to understand if smart can properly handle chroots of rawhide/F11 on F10/RHEL5 hosts. Anders Björklund (in the Cc, please keep him there on replies) has put a great deal of effort to have smart working on F10 and F11, and a smart version for managing F11 and later chroots on F10 or earlier would be great. And second I'd like to know how to setup a build environment for F11 for getting some ATrpms packages out. Thanks! -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net

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Re: FAD -- startin' early
by Paul W. Frields 03 Oct '09

03 Oct '09

I constructed a page on the wiki for an upcoming FAD where some contributors are going to work on some long-standing Fedora Talk related tickets. Details are here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009 There's a list of related tickets on the page, namely #s 309, 395, 453, and 1160, that we're going to try to knock out that weekend. To a large extent they're duplicates, but they all revolve around extending the Fedora Talk capabilities. We're going to be conversing on this list since obviously the work's primarily, maybe even wholly, infrastructure-related. Below is a bit of introductory email from last night that I wanted to make sure was captured transparently here. Comments follow... Jeff C. Ollie wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> OK guys, now that we have the travel stuff sorted out, hopefully >> everybody has had time to check out the FAD page: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009 >> >> Our primary goals are to create: >> >> * On-demand recording and publishing (or at least dumping into a >> holding pen) >> >> * Streaming capability for live events (it completely works + >> documentation on exactly how to set it up and operate at a live >> events) > > It'd be nice if there was some easy tool that people could > yum-install that would make it easy to set up a VoIP soft phone for > Fedora Talk. That is probably outside the scope of the FAD, but > could be an idea for someone wanting to get into the Fedora > Infrastructure group to work on. You know what would work really well? A package with a dogtail script, that used the appropriate HTML tags so that PackageKit can download dogtail and deps for you, then run the script. You can actually see things running and therefore know how to do it later. (Unfortunately, it doesn't look like Dogtail has got a lot of recent love. It's been consistently rebuilt but I'm not sure it works, which is a shame -- it's really useful and it took me just a few minutes to learn how to write a script for Dogtail.) I do agree that's not something we should worry about until everything else gets done, or if anyone in the listening audience is keen on it, that might make a cool project through which you could learn a *lot* about being involved in Fedora. >> First order of business, I'd like to move this conversation to the >> right list. What would that be? Logistics? Is this truly > >> cross-team work? Or is there a better place, like Infrastructure? > > +1 on the Fedora Infrastructure list. And... here we are! :-) >> I'm also hoping that John Poelstra will help us by guiding this as a >> small project, helping us suss out the next questions to ask (for >> example, What is our desired end state? What resources do we need >> that we can set up now? etc.). > > We'll need one or two guests with hopefully direct access to the > Internet, VoIP and NAT/Firewalls don't always get along. Disk space > can be minimal at this point, we'll need to add more later for > archives. If we have to go through NAT/Firewalls we'll need to get > holes poked through before hand for SIP & RTP traffic. > Alternatively we could run our test system off of a spare box at > Paul's house, which could be nice if the system gets borked up. > Once a box for a test system is figured out we'd want to get a > minimal Asterisk system up and running. Our location is set right now to be a coworking office in the area. I'll find out more network details to see what they can support, although I suspect they aren't blocking much there. I can even stop by the facility early next week to do any testing, if someone can tell me what I need to test. > Probably want to look at getting Asterisk 1.6.2 packaged. It's > still in release candidate, but 1.6.2 has new conferencing software > that isn't hacked in by a 3rd party or requires a kernel module. > Since F13 early branching is happening soon we can develop the > package there and then backport it to RHEL or whatever we end up > running the service on. Cool idea, Jeff. > Getting the latest flumotion version packaged would be good too, as > flumotion would be my choice for doing the streaming of live events. > > Having a supply of spare headsets on hand would be good. I have one > that I keep in my laptop case, but it would be nice to have them on > hand so someone doesn't have to run out and get some at the last > minute. OK, any participants who don't have a USB headset they can bring should let me know. > Do we want to mess around with hard phones? I'm assuming that Jared > can get his hands on a few but time spent on setting those up is > probably going to be time taken away from other tasks. I'd say no, it's really all about what we're doing on the server(s) and softphones should be fine. But I yield to the experts... > Well, that's all I can think of for now... > >> John, maybe you can help figure out if we're setting up the right >> questions here, and are using the next 4 weeks as wisely as >> possible so that, for example, we don't have to brainstorm >> on-site. Instead, that will be done on the list in advance, and >> then we will be able to hit more significant milestones > during >> the 2+ days we have. > > FYI, I'll have extremely limited e-mail access from now until Sunday evening... Noted. You may not see this until then, and that's fine. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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FAD Fedora Talk tech items
by Paul W. Frields 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

Two tech items I wanted to clear up for Fedora Talk FAD: First, qe discussed earlier using softphones for consistency and less equipment-lugging. Didn't hear any votes against so that's all we're planning at this point. It also makes sense to concentrate on that use because the majority of people using Fedora Talk are likely using softphones. Second, network setup at the site. I talked to the owner of the office we'll be using and he says they have a wide-open wireless, *and* a wired connection we can feel free to use which is the same thing their wireless plugs into. I'm going to scoot over there on Friday if I can, and test how things work with a softphone. I didn't get any hints from anyone on what special tests I needed to do beyond trying to hook up to Fedora Talk and make and receive a call, so that's all I plan to do unless someone tells me otherwise. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Blogs site?
by Mike McGrath 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Whats the status of the blogs site? Is it ready to go? People want to use it :) Where are the directions? -Mike

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FAD F-Talk non-tech stuff
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Jeff reminded me of a couple topics that would be handy to note, so I just wrote them up on the wiki page for information: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009#Logistics -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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FAD Fedora Talk -- IRC, to-do
by Paul W. Frields 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

I'd like to get conversations going on exactly *how* we plan to attack the list of things to do for the FAD. The game plan is here -- many thanks to John, who already got us rolling with a planning page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009_game_plan We've got four tickets -- probably with a bunch of duplication between them -- that we want to clear out as primary targets. Then there are an assortment of some possibly related bits we can hit as time allows. I sort of braindumped how those targets map out. I'd like attendees to look at this list and comment on each point -- what's done already? What still needs to be built? What, in your opinion, is the best way of doing it? If we can answer those questions *now*, we'll spend less time discussing at the FAD, and more time *doing*. I'll capture the discussion to the wiki as we find answers, so we can easily refer to it later. * Record calls * Stream calls * Publish the recording (to a meetbot-like web area?) * Add moderation features that support larger audiences * Build pieces that allow users to set these features either in advance (Web UI) or on-demand/interactively (e.g. "#8" = start recording) I'd also like to suggest that everyone attending get on IRC Freenode #fedora-fad now, so we can do easy one-off conversation there for trivial matters, and continue to capture strategies here and on the wiki. We'll be using that IRC channel for the FAD itself later. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Looking for people who need guests.
by Mike McGrath 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

I'm looking to put some load on our new cloud environment. This is a pre-pre-pre type setup. The guests will go up, they'll go down. You know the deal. You'll only have this guest for a month or so but if you think you could use a guest, let me know. Because right now the guests aren't actually doing work. -Mike

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Change Freeze
by Mike McGrath 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Just a reminder to everyone. We are officially frozen under a prerelease freeze - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/Release#Change_Freeze You can check the list at - sudo yum -y install openoffice.org-draw git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-infrastructure.git/ cd fedora-infrastructure/architecture oodraw Environments.odg -Mike

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