So one of the things that has made Fedora's Infrastructure successful is the amount of time we spend getting configs together and tested _before_ we go live with them. Often times re-doing things from scratch multiple times.
This works well in our shared app environment. They're in puppet, the people involved understand it. This is a very high barrier but in our case, it's completely worth it.
However.... We do, regularly, have people request hosting from us for various open source projects. Some people just want a place to host something. I'd think these individuals would support these hosts outside of Fedora's normal realm. So question 1)
Should Fedora get in the business of providing (probably xen guests) to other projects?
I'd love to say yes, but there are many concerns in terms of IP space, security, security, liability, and security.
Comment, please.
-Mike
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:59 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
So one of the things that has made Fedora's Infrastructure successful is the amount of time we spend getting configs together and tested _before_ we go live with them. Often times re-doing things from scratch multiple times.
This works well in our shared app environment. They're in puppet, the people involved understand it. This is a very high barrier but in our case, it's completely worth it.
However.... We do, regularly, have people request hosting from us for various open source projects. Some people just want a place to host something. I'd think these individuals would support these hosts outside of Fedora's normal realm. So question 1)
Should Fedora get in the business of providing (probably xen guests) to other projects?
I'd love to say yes, but there are many concerns in terms of IP space, security, security, liability, and security.
Comment, please.
We'll quickly run up against our limits I think after a few of these requests and we'll end up hosting things we may have to 'correct' later.
I'd say we could provide managed xen guests but not just "here's your box, have fun" hosts.
-sv
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, seth vidal wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:59 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
people involved understand it. This is a very high barrier but in our case, it's completely worth it.
However.... We do, regularly, have people request hosting from us for various open source projects. Some people just want a place to host something. I'd think these individuals would support these hosts outside of Fedora's normal realm. So question 1)
Should Fedora get in the business of providing (probably xen guests) to other projects?
I'd love to say yes, but there are many concerns in terms of IP space, security, security, liability, and security.
Comment, please.
We'll quickly run up against our limits I think after a few of these requests and we'll end up hosting things we may have to 'correct' later.
I'd think that unless they're officially "part of fedora" as in, everyone involved is a member of the Infrastructure team, doing it the infrastructure way with our puppet config. We won't be correcting anything. I'd have to insist on that. This secondary hosting would very much be a second class citizen with the people requesting it basically being on their own.
I'd say we could provide managed xen guests but not just "here's your box, have fun" hosts.
Define "managed". Would it have our account system? If so would they have access to the encrypted passwords of the sysadmin-main members?
-Mike
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