Hey, in /var/lib/mailman/data/ there are an ass-tonne of messages held in various approval queues.
This morning there were a total of 21778 messages waiting for various lists. Some of them are NOT young.
Since they are just files that live in that dir - how would folks feel about setting a 2-month limit? If a message is not approved/discarded/rejected/etc by the mailing list admin w/i 2months then tmpwatch it away?
it, ultimately, makes mailman run better.
-sv
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Seth Vidal skvidal@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hey, in /var/lib/mailman/data/ there are an ass-tonne of messages held in various approval queues.
This morning there were a total of 21778 messages waiting for various lists. Some of them are NOT young.
Since they are just files that live in that dir - how would folks feel about setting a 2-month limit? If a message is not approved/discarded/rejected/etc by the mailing list admin w/i 2months then tmpwatch it away?
it, ultimately, makes mailman run better.
As for the four or five lists that I run/co-run, I/we usually don't even look into those held messages because that will take so much time. Just if this helps.
+1 to auto-discard after a period of time (I'm ok with >= 30 days; choose as you see fit). +1 to suggesting to list admins to set auto-discard on their own lists if they aren't going to pay attention to the nagmails.
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On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Seth Vidal skvidal@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hey, in /var/lib/mailman/data/ there are an ass-tonne of messages held in various approval queues.
This morning there were a total of 21778 messages waiting for various lists. Some of them are NOT young.
Since they are just files that live in that dir - how would folks feel about setting a 2-month limit? If a message is not approved/discarded/rejected/etc by the mailing list admin w/i 2months then tmpwatch it away?
it, ultimately, makes mailman run better.
As for the four or five lists that I run/co-run, I/we usually don't even look into those held messages because that will take so much time. Just if this helps.
-- Regards, Susmit.
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Does that mean you're fine with the above?
I am, yes. But obviously, I can not speak for the list-admins of the lists that I don't run. :). Thanks.
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:19:00 am susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Does that mean you're fine with the above?
I am, yes. But obviously, I can not speak for the list-admins of the lists that I don't run. :). Thanks.
you realise you can set the list to autodiscard email instead of moderate it.
Maybe we should just do that. I try to make sure i handle things on my lists but fail. and really its all spam that gets held
Dennis
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:19:00 am susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Does that mean you're fine with the above?
I am, yes. But obviously, I can not speak for the list-admins of the lists that I don't run. :). Thanks.
you realise you can set the list to autodiscard email instead of moderate it.
Maybe we should just do that. I try to make sure i handle things on my lists but fail. and really its all spam that gets held
except where it isn't - like the moderators list queue... :(
I'm think I need to:
1. send an email to all list owners telling them we will be instituting a 1 month old discard rule. 2. tell them if they don't want to deal with it to set non-members posts to reject
3. profit?
what do you think?
-sv
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 12:59 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:19:00 am susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Does that mean you're fine with the above?
I am, yes. But obviously, I can not speak for the list-admins of the lists that I don't run. :). Thanks.
you realise you can set the list to autodiscard email instead of moderate it.
Maybe we should just do that. I try to make sure i handle things on my lists but fail. and really its all spam that gets held
except where it isn't - like the moderators list queue... :(
I'm think I need to:
send an email to all list owners telling them we will be instituting a 1 month old discard rule.
tell them if they don't want to deal with it to set non-members posts to reject
profit?
what do you think?
-sv
WORKSFORME
I'll leave most the lists I manage in the 1 month purging mode.
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 12:59 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:19:00 am susmit shannigrahi wrote:
Does that mean you're fine with the above?
I am, yes. But obviously, I can not speak for the list-admins of the lists that I don't run. :). Thanks.
you realise you can set the list to autodiscard email instead of moderate it.
Maybe we should just do that. I try to make sure i handle things on my lists but fail. and really its all spam that gets held
except where it isn't - like the moderators list queue... :(
I'm think I need to:
send an email to all list owners telling them we will be instituting a 1 month old discard rule.
tell them if they don't want to deal with it to set non-members posts to reject
profit?
what do you think?
-sv
+1
On 05/20/2010 11:03 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
Hey, in /var/lib/mailman/data/ there are an ass-tonne of messages held in various approval queues.
This morning there were a total of 21778 messages waiting for various lists. Some of them are NOT young.
Since they are just files that live in that dir - how would folks feel about setting a 2-month limit? If a message is not approved/discarded/rejected/etc by the mailing list admin w/i 2months then tmpwatch it away?
it, ultimately, makes mailman run better.
-sv
+1
On Thu, 20 May 2010 11:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Seth Vidal skvidal@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hey, in /var/lib/mailman/data/ there are an ass-tonne of messages held in various approval queues.
This morning there were a total of 21778 messages waiting for various lists. Some of them are NOT young.
Since they are just files that live in that dir - how would folks feel about setting a 2-month limit? If a message is not approved/discarded/rejected/etc by the mailing list admin w/i 2months then tmpwatch it away?
it, ultimately, makes mailman run better.
Sounds fine to me.
I personally go through and deal with all the lists I admin on a daily basis. It might be worth asking folks to consider adding moderators or admins to lists they never find time to moderate, or adjusting their settings.
Do we have some way of sending an email to '*-owners' ? If so, we could ask them to consider adding moderators, or adjusting settings so this is not such a problem, and also we could tell them that we will autoremove after 2 months or whatever.
kevin
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Sounds fine to me.
I personally go through and deal with all the lists I admin on a daily basis. It might be worth asking folks to consider adding moderators or admins to lists they never find time to moderate, or adjusting their settings.
Do we have some way of sending an email to '*-owners' ? If so, we could ask them to consider adding moderators, or adjusting settings so this is not such a problem, and also we could tell them that we will autoremove after 2 months or whatever.
I can generate a list of every list-owner address on fedorahosted and lists.fp.o and send a mass mail out about it.
What number is everyone happy with?
1 month? 2 months?
I figure if you're on vacation for over a month then you can appoint a moderator to take care of things for you if it is really that important.
-sv
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 15:50 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Sounds fine to me.
I personally go through and deal with all the lists I admin on a daily basis. It might be worth asking folks to consider adding moderators or admins to lists they never find time to moderate, or adjusting their settings.
Do we have some way of sending an email to '*-owners' ? If so, we could ask them to consider adding moderators, or adjusting settings so this is not such a problem, and also we could tell them that we will autoremove after 2 months or whatever.
I can generate a list of every list-owner address on fedorahosted and lists.fp.o and send a mass mail out about it.
What number is everyone happy with?
1 month? 2 months?
I figure if you're on vacation for over a month then you can appoint a moderator to take care of things for you if it is really that important.
-sv
We keep stuff like that for a month for lists maintained where I work.
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 15:50 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
1 month?
1 month seems reasonable to me.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Jesse Keating jkeating@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 15:50 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
1 month?
1 month seems reasonable to me.
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I'm not opposed to have older messages being automatically purged. If someone hasn't approved/denied the message by then its likely no longer relevant.
Sijis
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