Greetings.
I thought I'd start a thread here about hackfest sessions for the next North American Fudcon. I'm not sure how many folks can make it, but hopefully we have a good crowd and can get some good progress made on some things that are harder to do/discuss remotely.
I'll collect ideas here, and we can add the sessions we think we will want to the wiki after we reach some consensus...
My list:
Infrastructure Staging revamp: How can we reorg staging to make it more useful and less hassle? We have all I think agreed it could be more complete and setup better, but we need to flesh out the details and a plan of attack.
2 factor auth: Short term I think I personally would like to see us finish yubikey as 2factor and require it for some groups, but longer term things like google auth, etc should weigh in. Can we reuse things from other projects? Can we come up with a map and ask for help? A hackfest to come up with a plan would be great.
Aprentice program/adding new people brainstorming: I think the apprentice program has helped some folks, but It still seems like we have a lot of people introduce themselves and not really get involved. What could we do to make this better? Classes? A specific list of tasks and we just assign them one to get them started?
CSI hacking. I think we could flesh out the CSI docs a good deal more if we can sit down and brainstorm on it.
Any other ideas?
kevin
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 01:17:05PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
I thought I'd start a thread here about hackfest sessions for the next North American Fudcon. I'm not sure how many folks can make it, but hopefully we have a good crowd and can get some good progress made on some things that are harder to do/discuss remotely.
I'll collect ideas here, and we can add the sessions we think we will want to the wiki after we reach some consensus...
My list:
Infrastructure Staging revamp: How can we reorg staging to make it more useful and less hassle? We have all I think agreed it could be more complete and setup better, but we need to flesh out the details and a plan of attack.
2 factor auth: Short term I think I personally would like to see us finish yubikey as 2factor and require it for some groups, but longer term things like google auth, etc should weigh in. Can we reuse things from other projects? Can we come up with a map and ask for help? A hackfest to come up with a plan would be great.
Aprentice program/adding new people brainstorming: I think the apprentice program has helped some folks, but It still seems like we have a lot of people introduce themselves and not really get involved. What could we do to make this better? Classes? A specific list of tasks and we just assign them one to get them started?
CSI hacking. I think we could flesh out the CSI docs a good deal more if we can sit down and brainstorm on it.
I'd like to look into either brainstorming this or actually holding a "class". The latter would be ideal but it depends on how clearly I can come up with what a "class" would look like before Blacksburg.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Infrastructure_Classroom
-Toshio
We just had FUDCon in Pune last weekend. We had 5 tracks for two days, but there was no talk specific for infra group. Although there was a hackfest on puppet and few other talks than can be related to fedora-infra ; it would be great if some one present our puppet usage , and its integration with nagios in the next fudcon
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 01:17:05PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
I thought I'd start a thread here about hackfest sessions for the next North American Fudcon. I'm not sure how many folks can make it, but hopefully we have a good crowd and can get some good progress made on some things that are harder to do/discuss remotely.
I'll collect ideas here, and we can add the sessions we think we will want to the wiki after we reach some consensus...
My list:
Infrastructure Staging revamp: How can we reorg staging to make it more useful and less hassle? We have all I think agreed it could be more complete and setup better, but we need to flesh out the details and a plan of attack.
2 factor auth: Short term I think I personally would like to see us finish yubikey as 2factor and require it for some groups, but longer term things like google auth, etc should weigh in. Can we reuse things from other projects? Can we come up with a map and ask for help? A hackfest to come up with a plan would be great.
Aprentice program/adding new people brainstorming: I think the apprentice program has helped some folks, but It still seems like we have a lot of people introduce themselves and not really get involved. What could we do to make this better? Classes? A specific list of tasks and we just assign them one to get them started?
CSI hacking. I think we could flesh out the CSI docs a good deal more if we can sit down and brainstorm on it.
I'd like to look into either brainstorming this or actually holding a "class". The latter would be ideal but it depends on how clearly I can come up with what a "class" would look like before Blacksburg.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Infrastructure_Classroom
-Toshio
infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:50:36 +0530 ranjib dey dey.ranjib@gmail.com wrote:
We just had FUDCon in Pune last weekend. We had 5 tracks for two days, but there was no talk specific for infra group. Although there was a hackfest on puppet and few other talks than can be related to fedora-infra ; it would be great if some one present our puppet usage , and its integration with nagios in the next fudcon
Yeah, would be good... let us know when the schedule for the next APAC fudcon is decided and we can see if we can get someone there to talk about such. ;)
kevin
Hi,
In FUDCon Pune, I was the one who tried to organize a hackfest for puppet. I wanted to build some basic modules so that newbies can learn the puppet easily but since there was no one who knew anything about puppet or were busy else where, I had to convert it into an "Introduction to Puppet" workshop sort of thing so that at least students and other interested people could get a hint (about 20-30 participants).
So yes, for the next FUDCon, where ever it happens, I would love to listen about how our infra works, how pieces like cobbler, puppet, pulp (?) nagios etc are joined to get what we have now. I think this is more suited for a talk than a hackfest.
Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania India
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
I thought I'd start a thread here about hackfest sessions for the next North American Fudcon. I'm not sure how many folks can make it, but hopefully we have a good crowd and can get some good progress made on some things that are harder to do/discuss remotely.
I'll collect ideas here, and we can add the sessions we think we will want to the wiki after we reach some consensus...
My list:
Infrastructure Staging revamp: How can we reorg staging to make it more useful and less hassle? We have all I think agreed it could be more complete and setup better, but we need to flesh out the details and a plan of attack.
2 factor auth: Short term I think I personally would like to see us finish yubikey as 2factor and require it for some groups, but longer term things like google auth, etc should weigh in. Can we reuse things from other projects? Can we come up with a map and ask for help? A hackfest to come up with a plan would be great.
Aprentice program/adding new people brainstorming: I think the apprentice program has helped some folks, but It still seems like we have a lot of people introduce themselves and not really get involved. What could we do to make this better? Classes? A specific list of tasks and we just assign them one to get them started?
CSI hacking. I think we could flesh out the CSI docs a good deal more if we can sit down and brainstorm on it.
Any other ideas?
kevin
infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:06:25 +0530 Aditya Patawari adimania@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In FUDCon Pune, I was the one who tried to organize a hackfest for puppet. I wanted to build some basic modules so that newbies can learn the puppet easily but since there was no one who knew anything about puppet or were busy else where, I had to convert it into an "Introduction to Puppet" workshop sort of thing so that at least students and other interested people could get a hint (about 20-30 participants).
Thats a pretty nice turnout. ;) I hope some folks liked puppet and will use it more.
So yes, for the next FUDCon, where ever it happens, I would love to listen about how our infra works, how pieces like cobbler, puppet, pulp (?) nagios etc are joined to get what we have now. I think this is more suited for a talk than a hackfest.
Yeah. We don't use cobbler and pulp, but puppet, nagios and other stuff could be a good talk for sure.
kevin
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:17:05 -0700 Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
I thought I'd start a thread here about hackfest sessions for the next North American Fudcon. I'm not sure how many folks can make it, but hopefully we have a good crowd and can get some good progress made on some things that are harder to do/discuss remotely.
I'll collect ideas here, and we can add the sessions we think we will want to the wiki after we reach some consensus...
My list:
Infrastructure Staging revamp: How can we reorg staging to make it more useful and less hassle? We have all I think agreed it could be more complete and setup better, but we need to flesh out the details and a plan of attack.
2 factor auth: Short term I think I personally would like to see us finish yubikey as 2factor and require it for some groups, but longer term things like google auth, etc should weigh in. Can we reuse things from other projects? Can we come up with a map and ask for help? A hackfest to come up with a plan would be great.
Aprentice program/adding new people brainstorming: I think the apprentice program has helped some folks, but It still seems like we have a lot of people introduce themselves and not really get involved. What could we do to make this better? Classes? A specific list of tasks and we just assign them one to get them started?
CSI hacking. I think we could flesh out the CSI docs a good deal more if we can sit down and brainstorm on it.
There are 3 things I think would be do-able in the timeframe available.
1. 2fa setup - I concur - fix what's not working on move toward the future of it. Hell, it'd be nice to do it before fudcon and bring all the yubikeys we have spare to fudcon to distribute and verify for folks who need them
2. select hosted projects to try out migration 'TO THE CLOUD' - the plan we have discussed in the past to do hosted-$infinite and just setup aliases for each project (hosted-func, hosted-coprs, hosted-mock, etc). If we could get volunteer projects to try this out on we could start with things like gitlabhq and the alias changes are fairly straightforward.
3. the db-## to db-project name: db-fas, db-wiki, db-ask, db-whatever so we no longer have to play games with figuring out where things are stored and chasing them down. This involves making simple aliases and updating the projects to talk to those aliases instead. It's not hard and it's great progress to undertake
There are more things worth talking about - but in almost all cases they require that someone have the time to work on them.... which is sadly limited, I've found.
-sv
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:12:11 -0500 seth vidal skvidal@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:17:05 -0700 Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
Greetings.
I thought I'd start a thread here about hackfest sessions for the next North American Fudcon. I'm not sure how many folks can make it, but hopefully we have a good crowd and can get some good progress made on some things that are harder to do/discuss remotely.
I'll collect ideas here, and we can add the sessions we think we will want to the wiki after we reach some consensus...
My list:
Infrastructure Staging revamp: How can we reorg staging to make it more useful and less hassle? We have all I think agreed it could be more complete and setup better, but we need to flesh out the details and a plan of attack.
2 factor auth: Short term I think I personally would like to see us finish yubikey as 2factor and require it for some groups, but longer term things like google auth, etc should weigh in. Can we reuse things from other projects? Can we come up with a map and ask for help? A hackfest to come up with a plan would be great.
Aprentice program/adding new people brainstorming: I think the apprentice program has helped some folks, but It still seems like we have a lot of people introduce themselves and not really get involved. What could we do to make this better? Classes? A specific list of tasks and we just assign them one to get them started?
CSI hacking. I think we could flesh out the CSI docs a good deal more if we can sit down and brainstorm on it.
There are 3 things I think would be do-able in the timeframe available.
- 2fa setup - I concur - fix what's not working on move toward the
future of it. Hell, it'd be nice to do it before fudcon and bring all the yubikeys we have spare to fudcon to distribute and verify for folks who need them
- select hosted projects to try out migration 'TO THE CLOUD' - the
plan we have discussed in the past to do hosted-$infinite and just setup aliases for each project (hosted-func, hosted-coprs, hosted-mock, etc). If we could get volunteer projects to try this out on we could start with things like gitlabhq and the alias changes are fairly straightforward.
- the db-## to db-project name: db-fas, db-wiki, db-ask, db-whatever
so we no longer have to play games with figuring out where things are stored and chasing them down. This involves making simple aliases and updating the projects to talk to those aliases instead. It's not hard and it's great progress to undertake
There are more things worth talking about - but in almost all cases they require that someone have the time to work on them.... which is sadly limited, I've found.
oh and I'll add one more thing here:
go through this list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Cleanup_Tasks_2011
update it and refresh it in general.
b/c it has been handy to me as a guide for things that need doing.
-sv
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:16:07 -0500 seth vidal skvidal@fedoraproject.org wrote:
There are 3 things I think would be do-able in the timeframe available.
- 2fa setup - I concur - fix what's not working on move toward the
future of it. Hell, it'd be nice to do it before fudcon and bring all the yubikeys we have spare to fudcon to distribute and verify for folks who need them
Yeah. If we go to requiring yubikey for sysadmin-main or something, we should also look at getting those folks perhaps a spare in case of doom. I'd like to also keep a stash as backup, but otherwise, yeah.
- select hosted projects to try out migration 'TO THE CLOUD' - the
plan we have discussed in the past to do hosted-$infinite and just setup aliases for each project (hosted-func, hosted-coprs, hosted-mock, etc). If we could get volunteer projects to try this out on we could start with things like gitlabhq and the alias changes are fairly straightforward.
Yeah, ideally we will have the new hosted hardware up soon and can iron out the bugs in this with real hardware, then see about cloud.
- the db-## to db-project name: db-fas, db-wiki, db-ask,
db-whatever so we no longer have to play games with figuring out where things are stored and chasing them down. This involves making simple aliases and updating the projects to talk to those aliases instead. It's not hard and it's great progress to undertake
Yeah, agreed. If it's not done by then, we should sit down and do it at fudcon. ;)
There are more things worth talking about - but in almost all cases they require that someone have the time to work on them.... which is sadly limited, I've found.
Yep. ;(
oh and I'll add one more thing here:
go through this list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Cleanup_Tasks_2011
update it and refresh it in general.
b/c it has been handy to me as a guide for things that need doing.
Yeah, agreed. A 2012 version of this would be a great thing to work on.
kevin
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