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Fedora Art gallery
by Rahul Sundaram 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

Hi A few ages back there was a discussion on setting up a gallery for Fedora based on community or fan artwork. http://pygallery.sourceforge.net/ was suggested as one of the Python based solutions. Not sure if there are others we can take a look. It would be good to provide a place for the community to submit, rate etc at http://art.fedoraproject.org. It can provide custom designed and branded wallpapers, themes, sound themes, GDM/KDM login screen themes, Icons and so on. -- Rahul Learn. Network. Experience open source. Red Hat Summit Nashville | May 30 - June 2, 2006 Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/

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Time to plan the first meeting
by Patrick W. Barnes 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

I'd like to get started on planning our first meeting. I need opinions and suggestions from all of you. First, the meeting time. I'd like to shoot for the second week of January. At present, we already have Fedora meetings on Tuesday and Thursday. I'd kind of like to plan our meeting time in close proximity to the existing meetings, but I'm open to alternative suggestions. Second, the meeting agenda. We have a page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Schedule to track our agenda, but there isn't much there right now. I know that some of you have ideas that could be added. You can either send your suggestions on list or add them to that page on your own. Third, I'd like to know if any of you have any questions or problems that might affect your ability to contribute. I'd like to make sure that everyone is properly equipped to take on the tasks they choose, and I think having everyone on the same page before the meeting will allow us to get right to work after the meeting. Remember, though, that you don't have to wait until after the meeting to start working. There's a lot we already know needs to be done. For those of you who have been following our CMS discussions, we now have a new page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/CMS to track our efforts. All constructive additions and suggestions are welcome. We can also use accurate reviews of the posted solutions and others that you might think are valuable. I look forward to hearing from you! -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64(a)n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/

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Willing to help . . .
by Arthur Pemberton 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

I see you guys need more hands on deck with the website development. What tasks might I assist with? -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.

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Page hit counter?
by Rahul Sundaram 25 Dec '05

25 Dec '05

Hi I was wondering if the page hits information is available on the wiki pages and it seems there is a provision for this feature which is not enabled somehow. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ?action=info Anyone want to take a look at this? -- Rahul Learn. Network. Experience open source. Red Hat Summit Nashville | May 30 - June 2, 2006 Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/

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[Fwd: Re: Fedora community (Was: Revised Fedora Core website - Where are the links?)]
by Patrick W. Barnes 25 Dec '05

25 Dec '05

Websites Team, There's been a thread going on in fedora-list regarding our transition to fedoraproject.org. It brings up an excellent point. Except among ourselves, we have done a poor job of advertising what we are doing to the rest of the community. Although more and more resources are becoming available on fedoraproject.org, and more links are pointing to it, we haven't done much to tell people that we are now focusing on fedoraproject.org. With our recent revamp of fedora.redhat.com, we removed a great deal of content and left little more than a basic set of pages in place, but we didn't directly tell users where the information had gone. Many of the links there do now point to fedoraproject.org, but there's no explicit declaration of what is happening. I'd love to hear suggestions about how we can best remedy this oversight. I also know that a lot of people have asked why we don't have more content on the front page of fedora.redhat.com. I've been trying to find a reasonable way to publish news there that is synchronized with the news from fedoraproject.org. Beyond that, I'd love to hear suggestions for other valuable content that could go on the front page. Karsten, Greg and I haven't really heard a whole lot of feedback on the new fedora.redhat.com, so if each of you would take a few minutes to browse the site and return to the list with your insight, that would be great. Even if we are going to finish moving content away from fedora.redhat.com, we need to come up with key content to remain there, and the main content will likely be moved to fedoraproject.org (which we will need to advertise better). Whatever CMS (or non-CMS) solution we choose, we need to maintain our static content, and we need to tell our userbase what we are doing. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64(a)n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ -- Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/

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Wiki ACL's
by Rahul Sundaram 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Hi I have been thinking about this but it doesnt make much sense to me to have ACL's over all wiki content in Fedora. Wiki has a large edit group now that they might still make accidental changes which we need to monitor. I am not sure spam is enough of a problem to warrant this. what we can do is have a very limited acl for all the sensitive pages and a free run on the rest to encourage more active participation. There are a few people who monitor all changes to the wiki and I can do my share too. Comments? regards Rahul

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CMS Decision - answers on Drupal
by Greg Knaddison 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

I've read (most) of the discussion on Drupal and would like to try to answer questions on it that anyone has. I can also setup or help setup a site and I'd be happy direct folks seeking answers on the system. They recently had security issues as Ignacio pointsed out and I know that's a drawback in some people's minds. It is also based on PHP instead of Python, and I know that is also a drawback. On the flip side of those issues, there is no history of security issues for a custom project because there is no history. PHP, while not Python, has benefits in the web space like "nearly everyone uses it" which means it can be easier to find help. It also has a track record of high profile use (The Onion, Deanspace/Civicspace) where security audits must play some role. Like I said, if you have unanswered questions or want help setting up a simple installation to test out features, let me know. Greg

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Re: CMS Decision
by Steven Peck 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

Greetings, I was pointed to this discussion by one of the developers in the Drupal community who did not have time to follow up. While I am not about to step into your decision about which CMS to use as you need to pick one that fits your needs and mission, I have to disagree with this statement; >On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 16:58 -0600, Patrick Barnes wrote: >> If we decide we need a CMS solution, what can we do to make a PHP >> solution like Drupal as secure as possible? We can disable XML-RPC. >> What other features would we need to disable? Would this cripple Drupal >> beyond usefulness? > >Hell yes. > >http://secunia.com/advisories/17824/ > >-- >Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazquez ivazquez net> Disabling XML-RPC does not cripple Drupal. It does not even seriously impact Drupal at all. Without it, you will not be able to use remote blogging software such as http://blogtk.sourceforge.net/. Nor will you be able to configure it to remotely pull flickr images through the blogapi. Of course, you might want this functionality, many people do which has always confused me ... The security vulnerability was discovered within the community, fixed quickly and announced by the developers. Please note that the XML-RPC vulnerability was with the library used by Drupal and many other projects. Drupal now uses a different library as a result. Additional focus has been added to help ensure that such a vulnerability is less likely to happen again. Like Greg Knaddison, I just stopped by to answer any specific questions about Drupal. I will remain subscribed for a few days, but you folks need to decide what CMS meets your needs and usage. I think Drupal would work for you, but I'm sort of biased. :) http://drupal.org/user/5195 I now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion. -sp

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CMS Decision
by Patrick W. Barnes 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

We really need to move forward on selecting a CMS. It is highly unlikely that we'll see a PHP solution selected. I've heard many calls for Drupal, but let's not count on it. In particular, if a PHP solution is chosen, we'll have to be very, very careful in picking it out, and we'll probably need to disable any more dangerous functionality. In the case of Drupal and many others, that would include XML-RPC. There aren't many Python solutions out there, but we need to scour what is available very carefully. Many people were or would have been doubtful of what we could accomplish with MoinMoin, and look at all we've managed to do. The Fedora Project wiki is at the top of the list of MoinMoin's list of example wikis[1]. We can accept that there may need to be work done on whatever solution we select to get it where we want it. We've got a large pool of talent that will be wiling to help with that. I've added this to the Schedule[2], and placed an arbitrary target date of 2006-01-13 on this item. Let's see if we can get it done any sooner. I know the guys working on the Fedora Unity project[3] have been working on a similar problem, and Thomas Chung of FedoraNEWS.ORG has been in the market recently. I'd love to hear what they've learned. Anyone else with recent experience or examples of good CMS implementations can chime in. Some demos are available at http://www.opensourcecms.com/ for people to check out. Happy hunting! [1] http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinWikis [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Schedule [3] http://fedoraunity.org/ -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64(a)n-man.com www.n-man.com --

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Get Fedora Holiday Cheer
by Thomas Chung 09 Dec '05

09 Dec '05

Wouldn't it be nice if we have something similar to following? http://www.graphicsguru.com/holidaycheer.php BTW, Happy Holidays! -- Thomas Chung FedoraNEWS.ORG (http://fedoranews.org) "..where you can free your knowledge for your free community!"

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