websites August 2008

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Infrastructure Programming Tasks
by Toshio Kuratomi 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

nihed mbarek wrote: > ok :) let's start > Cool. So pretty much all of the apps we develop in-house (pkgdb, fedora account system, bodhi, myfedora, amber, etc) are written in python[1]_. The web apps are all TurboGears[2]_. Our wiki is driven by mediawiki and we have a few other programs that we run like zabbix which are written in php. One of the things that we need to do soon is to start looking at the CSS that mizmo (Máirín Duffy) is working on for MyFedora:: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-August/msg00131.h… The idea is that mizmo is working on a specific application but breaking the CSS into three sets: * The first layer is generic for all Fedora sites, static and dynamic. * The second layer is generic for all Fedora Web Applications -- so all the web apps I mentioned earlier. * The third layer is CSS specific to a specific Web Application. We need to port other apps than MyFedora to using this three layer approach with the CSS that mizmo is proposing in layer's 1 & 2 so that we get the generic parts right. Since I'm the lead developer of the PackageDB I'd love to see the three layers integrated with the current PackageDB code. Is this something you'd be interested in doing? -Toshio

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Self-introduction : Michaël Ughetto
by Michaël Ughetto 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Hi everyone, I'm Michaël Ughetto, a french physics student from South of France. I'm actually involved into Fedora mainly as a translator and a very very little packaging. My personnal interests are simulation and modelisation of physics problems. Concerning my participation to the website-team, i have some Python skills ans little knowledges about PHP and CSS. I'd like to help your team for all kinds of things, especially little ones that only need few optimizations. What kind of work could you give to me for my free time ? Friendly, PS : Learning don't afraid me -- Michael Ughetto (Telimektar) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MichaelUghetto <telimektar1er(a)gmail.com> || <telimektar(a)esraonline.com> 0x8ECBA2A4 on pgp.mit.edu

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Re: espritzen.ca
by Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 30 Aug '08

30 Aug '08

On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 00:11 -0400, Anne-Marie Miron wrote: > Mon site fonctionne plus !!!!! > www.espritzen.ca The test page you're seeing is what results when the web server is misconfigured. For more information talk to whoever is providing your hosting or see the following page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server_Test_Page *** La page de test que vous voyez est le résultat d'un serveur mal configuré. Pour plus d'informations, contactez votre fournisseur ou regardez la page suivante (désolé, seulement en anglais): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server_Test_Page -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet(a)gmail.com>

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CMS focus and scope
by Karsten Wade 30 Aug '08

30 Aug '08

I just posted an update http://iquaid.org/2008/08/19/fedora-cms-focus-and-scope/ ... which I reposted below[1]. Here is the task's project page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CMS_solution_for_Fedora_Project_websites The schedule currently allows a long time (~1 month) for scoping and vetting solutions, then another few weeks for installing a version to test as a replacement for docs.fp.o. Based on that experience and tweaks done during the F10 release process, we can plan for www.fp.o _after_ F10 releases. That way we use our stable systems through the release where it counts the most. In case it is not obvious, the intention of the schedule sync is to provide the full F10 Release Candidate release notes from docs.fp.org via the new CMS. - Karsten [1] from http://iquaid.org/2008/08/19/fedora-cms-focus-and-scope/ Fedora CMS focus and scope After my post, Why and where Fedora needs a CMS solution, which included a follow-up discussion on fedora-websites-list, there were questions and gentle dissent. I think those stemmed mainly from it not being clear what the intended scope is for a CMS solution. There were also calls for one or another specific CMS solution, which we’ll get to in due time. One concern expressed in comments to my post were two interrelated ideas: that contributors were going to be forced to use a CMS instead of whatever solution they prefer (i.e., a wiki), and that this would end-up splitting content into different areas, which is confusing for everyone. The scope of the CMS solution that I am looking for is to cover two specific websites: www.fedoraproject.org and docs.fedoraproject.org. The ‘www..’ site hosts content that is relatively static, usually only changes between releases, and is part of a management and translation process. The ‘docs…’ site hosts full-length documentation that has been drafted, edited, translated, and organized into topics and by version/release. The wiki continues to be a community documentation site, focusing on content of the smaller and easier to digest size and scope that works best in a wiki format, with two audiences: contributors and end-users, in that order. In addition, there are some specific content topics that have lived on the wiki as their canonical home, which has required them to have an access control list (ACL) defining who can edit. My goal is to get that content’s canonical home moved to the CMS within the www container. People who work on that more controlled content as writers and editors do not need to switch from the wiki as their preferred authoring tool. It is the formal publishing location that we need to change to be within the CMS. Then we can use the CMS’s native access control tools. This process matches what we do for the release notes, where the community writes and edits content in the release notes beats, but the final publication locations (docs.fedoraproject.org and the fedora-release-notes package) are not wide-open for at-will changes by anyone in the community. This follows a policy that Fedora Documentation has long used, which Fedora Websites began to follow a few releases ago. For multiple reasons, certain types of content cannot have the wiki as their canonical reference point. One case is where the content integrity is highly important to the very existence of the project, such as legal matters and packaging directions. Content is so powerful in this area that the changing of even one word can put the entire project in jeopardy. Anther case is when the translations and the original must be in tight synchronization, which is not trivial in a free moving wiki environment. The case that started it all off for the Websites and Infrastructure team was the fundamental slowness of any dynamic content system when the pages are being hammered for information after a release. (Note to self: the CMS solution must be able to make specific pages or content areas static, serving them from built web components and not out of the database.) After the Fedora Websites meeting we just had, there is now a specific task I am working against, and a rough timeline. Please continue to leave comments here, on fedora-websites-list, or directly to me via email. -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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espritzen.ca
by Anne-Marie Miron 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Mon site fonctionne plus !!!!! Esprit Zen Anne-Marie Miron 514.933.3936, poste: 1 <http://www.espritzen.ca/> www.espritzen.ca Les informations contenues dans ce courriel peuvent être de nature confidentielle et soumises au secret professionnelle; elles sont destinées à l'usage exclusif du destinataire indiqué dans l'adresse email ci-dessus. Toute divulgation, utilisation, diffusion et/ou reproduction (totale ou partielle) de ce message ou des informations quil contient doit être préalablement autorisé. Tout message électronique est susceptible daltération et son intégrité ne peut être assurée. Je décline donc toute responsabilité en ce cas. Si vous avez reçu ce mail par erreur, je vous remercie de bien vouloir le détruire immédiatement et de men informer par retour demail.

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introducing myself
by Alessio Santoro 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hi fedora! I'm Alessio and i'm an Italian webmaster. I ask you now sorry for my bad english! I'm interesting to help the fedore project as a webmaster, developing the websites and administrating it. My experiences:I worked a freelance webmaster for 3 years (and i'm working now), developing many different websites from e-commerces to blogs. 90% of websites that i developed were in PHP/MySQL language. This is the first language that i learned and i used (and i use). I know also (basic) C/C++, HTML, Perl, Python. I'm not a designer!! :PI managed many websites (personal and company websites), i have a good experience with many opensource CMS like Wiki, PHPnuke, Joomla, osCommerce, OpenCommercio...and much more!I worked for 2 years (parallament to these) in the Domains and Hosting sector. I worked for 2 hosting companies as a PHP developer (first) and a System Administrator. I have a good expericence with Cpanel, Plesk panel and other server panels, linux systems (server), ssh and linux server applications (ftp, dns applications...). I used Fedora, CentOS, RedHat and Ubuntu as linux system. I have also a Windows experience (I used and i'm using Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows XP and Windows Vista). I have also a little experience in the game developing sector. My fedora account username is apocaliv. I hope that i can help the fedora project and the fedora web group. I wait your answer. Best Regards _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Mail: il programma gratuito per gestire tutta la tua posta! http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

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An apology to the fedora websites team
by Juan Camilo Prada 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

I owe you all an apology for leaving things the way i did. Although it was never my intention things turned out this way and i couldn't keep working on the fedora website, specially on the get-fedora section as i commited. Thing is my job and my training is gettin all my time and right now i dont have any free time to spend on my passion (Fedora). It is a shame to me to recognize that right now im not the best person to rely on about the get-fedora section as i wont have the time right now to work on it, so i would like to ask for someone interested to keep working on this and maybe in a near future ill be back helping you all again. Sorry i didnt wrote this mail before and probably you all wondered where was I. I really dont have an excuse (maybe i was gwtting back home really tired and thats why i didnt bother myself to write this). Anyway thats all for now, Of course i'll try to be as updated as i can with the fedora websites progress but for now im afraid i cant keep working with all you So keep all the good work you all have been doing! regards Juan Camilo Prada

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Fraudlent Distributor
by Mike Carter 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Gang - On 23 July, I ordered a Fedora 9 i386 CD set from LinuxOnline.biz. The disks are faulty; they won't even pass the media check utility no matter what machine I use. As LinuxOnline.biz has no telephone number, I sent an e-mail to them requesting return information on 13 August, followed by two additional e-mails on 19 August, one through your web site and one addressed to the primary contact shown on your web sire, Irdayante Kadir. To this date I have received no response from LinuxOnline.biz of any sort. You may want to consider removing this company from you selection of vendors: they do not provide a quality product and apparently couldn't care less about their customer. Thank you, Mike Carter, Miamisburg OH (45342)

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New Website Request
by Rishikesh Sharma 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hi All, I need a website as fedora-manipur.org . So, tell me what are the procedures for this. This will help me to promote fedora in my region as a fedora ambassador. I will put everything regarding my region. I also have some knowledge of web designing. So, i need support from all of you here. Thanks and Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador and Website Project. Imphal, Manipur, India.

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no meeting on Sep 1?
by Max Spevack 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

September 1 is a national holiday in the US, so my guess is that we'll have a very small turnout for a meeting, so why don't we just go ahead and cancel it this week. Is this ok with folks?

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