http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Gordan
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Peter
On 29/02/12 13:01, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobicgordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Peter
It was indeed the SD card running Fedora that caught my eye.
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
And then there's LibreOffice...
If "runs just fine" is intended to mean "average desktop use", I don't think the experience with 256MB of RAM fits the description.
Gordan
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
And then there's LibreOffice...
If "runs just fine" is intended to mean "average desktop use", I don't think the experience with 256MB of RAM fits the description.
It runs Firefox and LibreOffice just fine using gnome 3 in fall back mode. You can't run a large amount of tabs but when I say just fine it's exactly what I mean.
The Raspberry Pi or the XO are not devices aimed at "average desktop use" and I'm sure anyone would be able to work that out but the fact remains it does run it and runs it reasonably well given the specs on the device. If you want a fast device that can do 100s of tabs and a billion other things you need to go and spend more than $35. They're both a completely different use case.
Peter
On 29/02/12 13:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
And then there's LibreOffice...
If "runs just fine" is intended to mean "average desktop use", I don't think the experience with 256MB of RAM fits the description.
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Gordan,
I think you are missing the point of the Raspberry PI. It is not meant to be a "professional" proper workplace fully blown machine. It is a development board for kids and teenagers, with the odd University student thrown in. Whatever other developers do with it is another story.
Regards, Tristan
Tristan Santore wrote:
On 29/02/12 13:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
And then there's LibreOffice...
If "runs just fine" is intended to mean "average desktop use", I don't think the experience with 256MB of RAM fits the description.
I think you are missing the point of the Raspberry PI. It is not meant to be a "professional" proper workplace fully blown machine. It is a development board for kids and teenagers, with the odd University student thrown in. Whatever other developers do with it is another story.
If we're going to talk about missing the point then IMO running a full fat desktop distro like Fedora (or Ubuntu or any derivative of the two) on it is missing the point.
Gordan
On 29/02/12 13:21, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Tristan Santore wrote:
On 29/02/12 13:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
And then there's LibreOffice...
If "runs just fine" is intended to mean "average desktop use", I don't think the experience with 256MB of RAM fits the description.
I think you are missing the point of the Raspberry PI. It is not meant to be a "professional" proper workplace fully blown machine. It is a development board for kids and teenagers, with the odd University student thrown in. Whatever other developers do with it is another story.
If we're going to talk about missing the point then IMO running a full fat desktop distro like Fedora (or Ubuntu or any derivative of the two) on it is missing the point.
Gordan _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
"Desktop distro" is a bit misleading here. Maemo and Android are also "desktop distros", nothing stops you from using either that way.
I think you are more referring to "Gnome". If you dont want gnome, use lxde, xfce or some other light weight weird and wonderfully named DE/Window Manager. They are lighter weight.
I think this topic is going a bit off-list now though. The merits of various arm devices running various distributions is a bit off-topic.
Regards, Tristan
On 2012-02-29, at 8:21 AM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Tristan Santore wrote:
On 29/02/12 13:07, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Gordan Bobic gordan@bobich.net wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi
Still only available for pre-order-interest-registration, though.
The good news, however, is that the type A device (available some time later this year allegedly) looks like it will also ship with 256MB of RAM (instead of the originally planned 128MB), which elevates it from "useless" to "mostly useless" as far as running a current Linux distro is concerned.
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
And then there's LibreOffice...
If "runs just fine" is intended to mean "average desktop use", I don't think the experience with 256MB of RAM fits the description.
I think you are missing the point of the Raspberry PI. It is not meant to be a "professional" proper workplace fully blown machine. It is a development board for kids and teenagers, with the odd University student thrown in. Whatever other developers do with it is another story.
If we're going to talk about missing the point then IMO running a full fat desktop distro like Fedora (or Ubuntu or any derivative of the two) on it is missing the point.
Gordan
As long as we all remember that we want school kids to use these devices to learn computing and have fun and in case they break it, it won't cost them too much to replace these boards.
Max
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On 02/29/2012 01:07 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices
with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
Yeah, but the desktop has nothing to do with Linux per se; you have to think about what the Raspberry Pi is for. You absolutely don't need to do your email on it or run a desktop on it.
Andrew.
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Andrew Haley aph@redhat.com wrote:
On 02/29/2012 01:07 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Fedora at least runs just fine with 256Mb of RAM. I have a few devices
with such spec that will happy run a UX on them, the XO-1 is one example.
Define "runs just fine", please. Default desktop environment with some commonly used applications like Firefox and Thunderbird? My Thunderbird expands to over 150MB of RAM when it loads.
Yeah, but the desktop has nothing to do with Linux per se; you have to think about what the Raspberry Pi is for. You absolutely don't need to do your email on it or run a desktop on it.
Andrew. _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
My only concern is how well will it run xbmc with fedora.
RaspberryPi target audience is not mainstream desktop but primary school education and enthusiasts/hackers/tinkerers type of people.
Anybody got their hands on RaspberryPi ? What kind od projects you are planning with it?
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