---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Damien Durand splinux@fedoraproject.org Date: 27 août 2006 12:18 Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A cvs space for the Usability Sig To: "Patrick W. Barnes" nman64@n-man.com
Hi,
"temporary storage" aren't the good words, I'm actually starting an application for "Fedora Usability" called "fusability". It's like bug-buddy but allow to produce usability repports. Yes actually I can host this on a my web access because it's not usable.
Bugzilla allow to conserve patchs or other? I don't think that it's the best solution but now that can be acceptable because the Usability Sigs has an existance of 2 weeks.
The "Usability packages" is a good idea, We can produce "unofficial" packages for testing the application massively...
I'm agree with you, cvs is not essential actually because usability is too young but that can be good for a efficient and productive work. Send the sources by mail etc... is not really great.
2006/8/27, Patrick W. Barnes nman64@n-man.com:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 12:11, "Damien Durand" < splinux@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
I would like to ask for a cvs space for the Usability Sig so as to host temporarily some documentations, codes and patches, allowing a more efficient and productive work.
CVS isn't for temporary storage. You need to work with other projects to keep things where they belong. Documentation should be kept in packages, with the Documentation Project, or on the wiki. Patches should be provided through Bugzilla to appropriate maintainers or directly to upstream. Efficiency is achieved through collaboration and management, not version control.
Unless the Usability SIG starts producing stand-alone packages, and I don't see any reason that it ever should, I can't imagine why it would have any real need for its own CVS repository.
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Damien Durand wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Damien Durand* <splinux@fedoraproject.org mailto:splinux@fedoraproject.org> Date: 27 août 2006 12:18 Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A cvs space for the Usability Sig To: "Patrick W. Barnes" <nman64@n-man.com mailto:nman64@n-man.com>
Hi,
"temporary storage" aren't the good words, I'm actually starting an application for "Fedora Usability" called "fusability". It's like bug-buddy but allow to produce usability repports. Yes actually I can host this on a my web access because it's not usable.
Bugzilla allow to conserve patchs or other? I don't think that it's the best solution but now that can be acceptable because the Usability Sigs has an existance of 2 weeks.
The "Usability packages" is a good idea, We can produce "unofficial" packages for testing the application massively...
I'm agree with you, cvs is not essential actually because usability is too young but that can be good for a efficient and productive work. Send the sources by mail etc... is not really great.
If your goal is unofficial side packages for usability, it may be best to wait for the next generation VCS that we hope to deploy before FC7. It will be one of the distributed VCS, which is extremely well suited for these kind of temporary branches. It could be done then with far less ugliness.
Please do the best you can with Bugzilla, Wiki's and 3rd hosted space until then.
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
Sorry for the confusion in my previous mails.
Well, I spoke with the Usability team about a cvs space and I'm able to provide somes answers and what we need.
First, one of goals of the Usability sig is to redefine the system-config-* tools and Fedora applications for more intuitivity, accessibility... and more. The problem is that the system-config-* tools are hosted on the red hat cvs. We don't an acces or provide somes modifications to this cvs and we don't have an acces to it. It would be better that Fedora Usability has its own cvs space not to interfere with RH's work and to ease the collaboration between Fedora Usability contributors, and by consequent hosted some documentations, patchs and other tools related to usability.
Next, cvs provide a good quality of work, with this we can work efficient and obtained a productive work. Currently, we're exchanging sources through mails which is not a solution.
We also need an usability component on Bugzilla, to collect requests and bug reports from users.
Then an usability group in the fedora account system will help to shape the organisation of the project and to restrain cvs acces to registered contributors.
Thanks for your patience,
Damien Durand
2006/8/28, Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com:
Damien Durand wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Damien Durand* <splinux@fedoraproject.org <mailto: splinux@fedoraproject.org>> Date: 27 août 2006 12:18 Subject: Re: [Fedora-infrastructure-list] A cvs space for the Usability
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To: "Patrick W. Barnes" < nman64@n-man.com mailto:nman64@n-man.com>
Hi,
"temporary storage" aren't the good words, I'm actually starting an application for "Fedora Usability" called "fusability". It's like bug-buddy but allow to produce usability repports. Yes actually I can host this on a my web access because it's not usable.
Bugzilla allow to conserve patchs or other? I don't think that it's the best solution but now that can be acceptable because the Usability Sigs has an existance of 2 weeks.
The "Usability packages" is a good idea, We can produce "unofficial" packages for testing the application massively...
I'm agree with you, cvs is not essential actually because usability is too young but that can be good for a efficient and productive work. Send
the sources by mail etc... is not really great.
If your goal is unofficial side packages for usability, it may be best to wait for the next generation VCS that we hope to deploy before FC7. It will be one of the distributed VCS, which is extremely well suited for these kind of temporary branches. It could be done then with far less ugliness.
Please do the best you can with Bugzilla, Wiki's and 3rd hosted space until then.
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
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