Fedora 10 Beta Release Planning Meeting 2008-09-17
== Invitees == Jonathan Roberts -- Marketing Karsten Wade -- Docs Jesse Keating -- Rel Eng (present) Paul Frields -- FPL (present) Spot Callaway -- FEM (present) John Poelstra -- Organizer (present) Mike McGrath -- Infrastructure (present) Dimitris Glezos -- Translation (present) Máirín Duffy -- Art (present) Will Woods -- QA James Laska -- QA (present) Ricky Zhou -- Websites (present) Bill Nottingham -- Development
== Meeting Goals == o not intended to be a lengthy meeting o opportunity to quickly go around the "virtual room" to make sure we are all ready for Beta release day o make it easier for us to communicate in real-time across teams on the telephone o John Poelstra also trying to flush out the taskjuggler schedules to reflect the reality of what needs to get done so that future schedules are tighter o Invited a representative from each Fedora group with a role in getting the release out the door
== Meeting Notes ==
=== Release Engineering === o Release Engineering is expecting the following on release day 1) announcement with link to page with information about the beta 2) landing zone to drive all the users to --Mike M notes that this page http://get.fedoraproject.org should be used going forward for all releases o All tasks and content for the beta release (for all teams) should be ready the day before release--Monday, September 22, 2008 --need to do a dry run or validate that things (links, content, etc.) are in working order before announcing --meet 1 hour before release and try things out o Future release cycles could be smoother with a buffer between feature freeze and beta freeze --considering during Fedora 11 planning o Consider proposing a set of earlier dates for core packages in the distro to solidify the release earlier. For example: anaconda, yum, rpm, etc. o Consider moving feature freeze to one week before beta freeze so that features don't crash land on the beta freeze date
=== Documentation === o docs team responsible for content of releases notes o single page release notes --do not get translated o will assist release engineering to help with release announcement o Docs team will need more community participation and help to get the installation guide ready --past contributors will not be able to be as involved this release cycle --waiting for git repo to get online; Mike will help coordinate as needed o https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Beta/ReleaseNotes
=== Art Team === o Art team to create banner to point to beta o Art team is still deciding on a final theme and content will not be ready in time to package for the beta --in the future we will target getting new artwork ready and packaged by feature freeze o Art team will work on a count-down timer to be ready at the release of the Preview Release
==== Web Sites Team === o websites team responsible for presentation of get.fedoraproject.org
=== Marketing & PR === o Paul is working with RHT PR to create press release blog o Also need to do coordination with Jonathan Roberts and the Fedora marketing team
=== Translation === o Translation deadline pulled in by one week to provide one week between the translation deadline and the final development freeze o Translation of the release notes starts with the preview release o Dimitris is trying to get Red Hat to commit internal resources to help translate release notes for languages that RHT supports --15 languages now supported by Fedora could increase to 30 or 35 o Considered how we could make sure that translations are repacked before before final devel freeze? --use tracker bugs? --Spot is willing to help patrol and look for things that are missing
== Next Meeting == o Prepare for Preview Release o Wednesday, October 22, 2008 o 17:00 UTC
John Poelstra wrote:
Fedora 10 Beta Release Planning Meeting 2008-09-17
== Invitees == Jonathan Roberts -- Marketing Karsten Wade -- Docs Jesse Keating -- Rel Eng (present) Paul Frields -- FPL (present) Spot Callaway -- FEM (present) John Poelstra -- Organizer (present) Mike McGrath -- Infrastructure (present) Dimitris Glezos -- Translation (present) Máirín Duffy -- Art (present) Will Woods -- QA James Laska -- QA (present) Ricky Zhou -- Websites (present) Bill Nottingham -- Development
Wouldn't it be useful to invite more than person as part of the different groups? Currently it seems a number of people have not attended which leaves that group voice unheard.
Rahul
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 18:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Wouldn't it be useful to invite more than person as part of the different groups? Currently it seems a number of people have not attended which leaves that group voice unheard.
These are supposed to be representatives from the various groups, who should have had release meetings on their own already and just reporting information back to the other groups. Having a 50 person meeting doesn't work very well.
Is this just speculation on your part, or is there an actual issue to talk about?
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 18:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Wouldn't it be useful to invite more than person as part of the different groups? Currently it seems a number of people have not attended which leaves that group voice unheard.
These are supposed to be representatives from the various groups, who should have had release meetings on their own already and just reporting information back to the other groups. Having a 50 person meeting doesn't work very well.
Is this just speculation on your part, or is there an actual issue to talk about?
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 18:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Wouldn't it be useful to invite more than person as part of the different groups? Currently it seems a number of people have not attended which leaves that group voice unheard.
These are supposed to be representatives from the various groups, who should have had release meetings on their own already and just reporting information back to the other groups. Having a 50 person meeting doesn't work very well.
Is this just speculation on your part, or is there an actual issue to talk about?
Also this wasn't a "direction of Fedora" type meeting its a "Ok art team, we need a banner for the release". "Ok releng, we need to make sure that we use get.fedoraproject.org in the release announcement as the primary location to direct people to" type thing. Mostly we go down the checklist that John's been keeping over the last many releases and we make sure that stuff is getting done and that people aren't wrongfully assuming certain tasks are getting done.
-Mike
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 18:20 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Wouldn't it be useful to invite more than person as part of the different groups? Currently it seems a number of people have not attended which leaves that group voice unheard.
These are supposed to be representatives from the various groups, who should have had release meetings on their own already and just reporting information back to the other groups. Having a 50 person meeting doesn't work very well.
Is this just speculation on your part, or is there an actual issue to talk about?
I don't see a speculation. I didn't knew about a meeting since the invitation to the meeting doesn't seem to have been made publicly. The meeting minutes show that a few people representative of the groups have not attended. I would have liked to be see someone represent marketing for instance and probably would have attended. If you had send a public invitation and I missed it, please point it out to me?
Rahul
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