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LADSPA plugins
by Florin Andrei 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Kudos to whoever pushed the LADSPA SWH plugins to Extras! Thank you! Now, here's my thoughts: this is a set of LADSPA plugins. It works strictly in conjunction with the package named "ladspa" - indeed, it is an extension to it. Therefore, I believe that the name of the plugins package should include the string "ladspa" somewhere. Examples: ladspa-swh-plugins Or perhaps even more logical: ladspa-plugins-swh This name shows clearly the fact that it's actually part of the LADSPA suite. Moreover, the highest, least specific, denominator (ladspa) comes first, the second highest (plugins) comes next, while the most specific denominator (swh) comes last. Kind of like the YYYYMMDD scheme. My proposal is to settle to a clear rule to name these packages and apply it consistently to all LADSPA plugins. There are quite a few that can still go to Extras: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ladspaworld.html And this one too: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/soundapps.html#SECTION000625… -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/

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Fedora Music Update
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 02 Sep '06

02 Sep '06

Not a lot of traffic on the list. That's ok -- not ideal, but ok. Baby steps. :) So I'm here to give an update on what I, and some other folks, have been working on. Some Red Hatters had a meeting here at Red Hat this afternoon to talk about the "free music" roadmap as we see it. Lots of baby steps in a number of directions. These were the action items that fell out. The owners are Redhatters and are listed in (parens) after each action item. All of us could use any help you'd like to offer. Here were the attendees at the meeting: * Luke Macken (lmacken(a)redhat.com) * Steve Salevan (ssalevan(a)redhat.com) * Adrian Likins (alikins(a)redhat.com) * Myself (gdk(a)redhat.com) And the action items: * JAMENDO STREAMS IN RHYTHMBOX FOR FC6 (lmacken). It should be relatively simple to get Rhythmbox, default music player in FC6, to stream Ogg music out of the box. One of the strongest sources for free Ogg content is jamendo.com. (Laurent, we may ask for your help here.) * TORRENT SERVER FOR JAMENDO OGG FILES (gdk). The nice thing about Jamendo is that it allows not just streaming, but actual download of files through BitTorrent. We're going to invest in some hardware to help support with Ogg support: a system with lots of disk and decent bandwidth. (This server will probably also help us with the Live CD project.) * RHYTHMBOX PLUG-IN EXPERIMENTATION (lmacken, ssalevan). Jamendo has some great xmlrpc calls. We'd like to hook into them so that Rhythmbox can show artist info -- maybe even in the notifications field for Rhythmbox. Like, say, where an artist will be playing, or where you can buy a t-shirt. Mostly, we'll just be playing around to figure out how this will work. Luke/Steve, it might be worth finding some CVS space in Fedora-land if other people are interested in this. * TALK TO CCMIXTER FOLKS ABOUT OGG (gdk). How much of the content uploaded to ccMixter is available in Ogg format? Not much. We'd like to see if we can fix this. * TALK TO MAGNATUNE FOLKS ABOUT OGG (gdk). Same goes for Magnatune. I know they're working on making their content available as Ogg files, but a little nudge in the right direction might help. :) * GET TAMTAM RUNNING IN OUR LAB (alikins). The OLPC folks have actual code working in the Tamtam project, woo hoo! It's based on gtk2+csound. The screenshots look cool, but I'd like to see it in action. We're going to try to get it running here. This is going to be a music production application that will be available to millions of kids in the next year, if all goes well -- meaning it will have more users than Garage Band. It's potentially A Big Deal. * GET CSOUND APPROVED FOR FEDORA EXTRAS (gdk). As part of the effort to get Tamtam working on as many systems as possible, I'm begging our Fedora Extras community to review the csound package that Dan Williams has submitted. I am willing to bribe people, by the way. :) * FIND A FAMOUS MUSICIAN FOR FEDORA STARTUP SOUND (all). Eno and Fripp have dedicated their talents to the Windows startup sounds. Surely we can find some freedom-lovin' music superhero to do some work for the good guys. :) * INSTALL CCHOST IN RH COLO (lmacken). We want to learn a lot more about the award-winning ccHost application, especially as a potential backend for people using Fedora (or one day OLPC) to collaborate on musical projects. Luke is going to get that running for us. * MUSICIAN SURVEY (gdk, ssalevan). We've been trying to figure out some questions to ask musicians about how they work. Steve is program director for a college radio station, so he's going to take a strong role here. So that's what we're working on. Any questions or offers of help, send them to the list. :) --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors -------------------------------------------------------------

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#fedora-csjo on freenode
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Hey. If you want to hang out with the cool kids in IRC, join #fedora-csjo on freenode. Want to know what CSJO means? You'll have to ask us on IRC. ;-) --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors -------------------------------------------------------------

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Free/open music scene ...
by Mike A. Harris 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

This isn't limited to Fedora per se, but someone suggested I post my question here to kick-start things... I've been exploring the free/open music scene in search of new music released under creative commons type licenses, etc. as well as new sounds/styles out there. I've found that there is a tremendous amount of music out there, however I have yet to find any music I'd consider "gems". Most of the music I've found so far has either been outside of my range of musical tastes, or has had an amateurish quality to it. Nonetheless I remain hopeful that there is actually "good" free music out there, and my search continues... ;o) Does anyone have any recommendations of any _good_ artists/bands that release material under creative-commons to check out? Of course I realize that "good" or "bad" is subjective and an individual thing that will vary greatly between different people, but I'm hoping some of you know of free music which would appeal either to larger audiences, to those who prefer specific genres, or music that would be catered more specifically to musicians - such as progressive rock/metal or similar. Anything from classical, blues, rock, metal, progressive, neoclassical, alternative, or instrumental music would be up my alley, although I'm quite open minded about music in general. In the mean time, I'll keep hunting... TIA -- Mike A. Harris * Open Source Advocate * http://mharris.ca Linux fans: Check out Tym Morrison's hit new heavy metal single "Only Linux" at http://tymmorrison.com - If you would like to support this great Canadian metal artist and open source fanatic, you can buy a copy of Tym's Solo Project CD at the "Buy CD" link on his site.

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Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Music Update
by Sylvain ZIMMER 26 Aug '06

26 Aug '06

Hi! I'm the CTO of jamendo, feel free to ask me questions/comments about the API. (quick doc : http://wiki.jamendo.com/index.php/EnMusicApi) > As far as I can tell, Jamendo does not have any sort of per-category/tag > streaming. Actually we can stream anything as you can see on the wiki page A per-tag stream : http://www.jamendo.com/get/track/tag/album/audio/m3u/electro+ambient/?o=ran… If you're looking for an artist: http://www.jamendo.com/get/track/search/artist/audio/plain/binarymi/?o=rele… matches the tracks of our artist "binarymind". > > I'm not sure of the best way to integrate Jamendo into Rhythmbox in the > short-term (the plugin would be the long term solution). Laurent, any > ideas ? > I think there are a few solutions : - "Augment" rythmbox when it detects a jamendo playlist / song (make it fetch the artwork, display the CC licence, display feedback links, bittorrent links, ..) - Access the jamendo library with the Artist / Album browser, as if the files were on disk, and stream/download them when playing. (You can fetch all the artists with a call like that http://www.jamendo.com/get/artist/list/artist/data/json/?n=all&ari=info_min and then the albums for one artist with http://www.jamendo.com/get/album/id/artist/data/json/5/?n=all&ali=info_min) - Display a "tag cloud", make the user select its favourite tags, and launch the radio associated with the tags. - Make the user able to fetch its jamendo playlists (API is not ready yet) >> * RHYTHMBOX PLUG-IN EXPERIMENTATION (lmacken, ssalevan). Jamendo has >> some >> great xmlrpc calls. We'd like to hook into them so that Rhythmbox can >> show artist info -- maybe even in the notifications field for Rhythmbox. >> Like, say, where an artist will be playing, or where you can buy a >> t-shirt. Mostly, we'll just be playing around to figure out how this >> will >> work. Luke/Steve, it might be worth finding some CVS space in >> Fedora-land >> if other people are interested in this. > > We can probably do some pretty cool stuff with this. I haven't looked > at the API in great detail, but it doesn't look like there is a way to > retrieve album covers? I've added a handy shortcut for that : http://www.jamendo.com/get/album/id/album/artworkurl/plain/116/?artwork_siz… Even simplier : http://www.jamendo.com/get/album/id/album/artworkurl/redirect/116/?artwork_… I'll do my best to provide you with convenient ways to fetch the data you want ;-) Thanks again for your support, we're very excited about it ! Regards, -- Sylvain ZIMMER CTO, www.jamendo.com

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A special request: reviewer for csound
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Dan Williams has packaged csound for inclusion in Fedora Extras. I'd like to see one of our reviewers move this to the top of their queue. The review request is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=203217 Why is this important? Because it's the linchpin for Tamtam, the kid-friendly music creation tool for the OLPC project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TamTam If anyone's looking for a bribe, I'm not too proud to offer one. But keep it reasonable. ;-) --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors -------------------------------------------------------------

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Jamendo presentation to fedora-music
by Laurent KRATZ 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Hi list, I had a nice chat with Greg DeKoenigsberg some days ago. He kindly propose to join this mailing-list. So here am I. I would like to present our project Jamendo (sorry for the ad Greg asked ;) ). http://www.jamendo.com/en/ Jamendo is an internet platform that distribute to a large scale Creative Commons licenced music. The original thing from jamendo, is that we distribute the music using P2P technology, in particular, we use BitTorrent and eMule/eDonkey networks, thus reducing our bandwidth needs. http://www.jamendo.com/en/static/concept/ We also integrate things "à la mode" like tags, ajax functions for recommendations, even a spy "à la digg". We use the power of social networking to filter the CC content submitted by artists. http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=tags http://www.jamendo.com/en/spy/ There's no chart on jamendo. Your taste, your rating, peer reviews, number of downloads, help you find surprisingly good music. We just crossed the symbolic line of 1400 different complete albums online, we distribute 300.000 complete albums per month with P2P technology (hi-fi with no ads), we have 1 million streaming song previews (low-fi and ad supported) per month. The album base is growing exponentially. We provide both MP3 and OGG ! The albums you find on Jamendo gather all kind of music and represent many countries such as France, Spain, the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Belgium, Italy, Japan, Chile, Australia, Israel and recently New Zealand. More than 20.000 members have already registered on the platform. http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=stats Part of our software is published on sourceforge. Volonteered have developped amarok plug-ins, firefox seach plug in ... other will come ... We have a pretty simple api : http://wiki.jamendo.com/index.php/EnMusicApi Voilà ... So dear list, what is your feeling about this ? -- Laurent KRATZ CEO Jamendo PEERMAJOR Technoport Schlassgoart 66, rue de Luxembourg L-4221 ESCH sur ALZETTE LUXEMBOURG T: +352 26 53 1008 F: +352 26 53 1009 G: +352 021 300 150 http://www.jamendo.com mailto:laurent@jamendo.com

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realtime audio on Fedora?
by Florin Andrei 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Currently I run all my music software as root. Crude but effective. But I wonder - is there a way to run jackd realtime as non-root on Fedora 5? Is the realtime lsm provided with FC5? Or rlimits-aware PAM? What are the answers to the same questions for the upcoming FC6? -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/

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bug #201647 - inclusion of alsa-oss in Fedora Core
by Florin Andrei 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

My opinion is that aoss (a.k.a. the alsa-oss package) should be included in Core. I filed a report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=201647 The discussion on LAU that triggered the report: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2006-August/thread.htm… -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/

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searching for audio packages?
by Fernando Lopez-Lezcano 01 Aug '06

01 Aug '06

Is there a way to search in Fedora Extras to see which packages are, for example, in the Applications/Multimedia category? -- Fernando

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