music January 2013

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Low Latency vs. Real Time Kernel
by Brian Monroe 10 Nov '14

10 Nov '14

I've been spending a lot of time on the #opensourcemusicians channel talking to Ubuntu Studio users about their kernel and latency times they're getting. Seems like most of them are using g a stock kernel with the preemptive option enabled and they are getting great latency results (2ms)while utilizing the @audio group on their user. I ended up compiling my own low latency kernel and I haven't had any issues with it yet. If this is what we are missing for the spin I'd be happy to maintain packaging for the kernel. I know ccrma has been behind a few kernel releases. I saw the instructions for adding the real time patch for a tick less kernel and from what I can tell it wouldn't be hard to get that rolling as well. I'm not entirely sure what ccrma does differently with their kernels compared to other Linux users, and I'm still a bit of a noob so I could be off base with this, but I would reason that we should be able to just utilize the same settings to archive similar performance enhancements. I thought I read that ccrma uses a unique scheduler, but if we could get a 2ms latency time without it, the point may be moot.

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Re: [Fedora-music-list] Update/Ideas for F19 and beyond
by Brendan Jones 08 Feb '13

08 Feb '13

Sorry replied off-list by mistake. On 01/30/2013 03:17 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Where did we end up on Planet CCRMA? They're just starting to support F18. > <snip> Not sure what you mean? PlanetCCRMA is still essential for users of Supercollider, PD and chuck (Nando? others i'm sure). We have moved a lot of packages into F17/F18, albeit the simple ones. Hopefully we can move supercollider into Fedora with nando's help, I'm just waiting on the new boost packages to land in F19. For rawhide, I just hard code the $releasever to 18 in /etc/yum.repos.d/planet*

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Update/Ideas for F19 and beyond
by Brendan Jones 01 Feb '13

01 Feb '13

Hi all, looks like the official website won't be released until Fedora 19. Some of you have noticed the nightly composes have been failing due to a poorly managed libicu soname bump. As I result I have changed the link on the Fedora_Jam wiki page to show only successful builds. So Jorn and others have done the hard yards for F18, with little thanks from the Spins team, but I am still really proud of what we've achieved. So, no time for dwelling on the past, lets look to the future. There is absolutely no doubt the Jam will be official for F19, so we have another cycle to separate us from the rest of the audio releases out there. Me, I'm going to be tracking the Anaconda, New Firstboot projects to ensure we get what we need - there were a few things we had to forgo given the limitations of where these projects currently stand. I've also re-stirred the pot on the designs team list for wallpaper and KDM icons, but that shouldn't stop any of us submitting ideas into the mix as well [1]. I would have thought the design team guys would jump at the chance to dabble with this theme - lot of space for creative expression, but interest seems minimal for now (but I really like the banner they did for us). We also need to come up with a definitive comps group ie. yum group install "Audio" (or another name - ideas welcome) and have this available at install time in Anaconda. Using the package list from the spin is probably a good place to start, but we probably could trim it down somewhat - we don't want the footprint to be too large - that's what the spin is for. Again, ideas welcome. regards, Brendan [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2013-January/006196.ht…

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From [LAU] [Survey] Audio distro 2013
by Jeff Sandys 31 Jan '13

31 Jan '13

I hesitated cross-posting from Linux Audio User until it was posted to the Ubuntu Studio list. So show Fedora and PlanetCCRMA some love at the survey below. -- Jeff -- a1g0rhythm Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:39:05 +0000 From: Pablo G?mez Poch <pablogomez(a)pablogomez.com> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user(a)lists.linuxaudio.org> Subject: [LAU] [Survey] Audio distro I just want to know what distros are you using in 2013, it would be helpful for programmers and help newbies to choose. So I created a poll: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZX8DL79

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Re: [Fedora-music-list] [mup-users] Beta release of Mup 6.1 (fwd)
by Martin Tarenskeen 29 Jan '13

29 Jan '13

Hi, I am forwarding this message to the Fedora music group. Not very long ago Arkkra Enterprises decided to make MUP a free and open source project. (Until now you had to pay for a licence) If we compare Mup to Lilypond (I use both): Lilypond is more powerful, tweakable, and flexible. Mup is much faster, takes less diskspace, and the user manual has less pages. Both are capable of producing professional looking scores. And for the sake of freedom of choice it would be nice if also MUP could be part of Fedora. MT ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 21:39:47 -0600 (CST) From: Arkkra Enterprises <support(a)arkkra.com> Reply-To: mup-users(a)arkkra.com To: mup-users(a)arkkra.com Subject: Re: [mup-users] Beta release of Mup 6.1 Regarding Fedora: We are hoping to get Mup included in Linux distributions, so definitely Fedora is of interest. There are a lot of distributions out there, and each seems to have its own procedures and rules, which can take a while to learn. So we'd appreciate help or suggestions from people who have some experience with any distributions, like Fedora. The mup.spec file we use to generate the rpm packages that we provide is in the source package in the "extras" directory, so that should be a good place to start. We chose to have that build Mup with static libraries, so that it should possible to run it on almost any Linux-- even an extremely old version--without depending on a particular libc version, but for Fedora or any specific distribution, it should, of course, use the standard dynamic library version for that release. There are probably other guidelines that Fedora or other distributions requires that we have not yet had time to research, but someone else already knows. So if you make changes to be more compatible, please send us the changes. While we won't promise to pick up every patch anyone provides, we can at least look at folding it or something similar into some future release. And if someone is already familiar with the intricacies of getting a package into some distribution such as Fedora, and is willing to help guide Mup through that process, that could be very helpful. Just let us know, so we can help avoid any unnecessary duplication of effort. Thanks, Bill and John support(a)arkkra.com Arkkra Enterprises http://www.arkkra.com

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gnome-scale and gnome-chord
by Brendan Jones 29 Jan '13

29 Jan '13

Hi all the gnome-guitar package was recently orphaned and I've picked it up. Up until now I've never used it but it seems quite useful (chord chart and scale chart). It totals about 1.1M in total including dependencies, I'm thinking we add it to the spin. Are there any other instruments/interest groups we may be missing? regards Brendan

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Jam spin website
by Brendan Jones 24 Jan '13

24 Jan '13

This is in the f19-alpha tree at the moment. I've included screenshots of the jam specific content [1][2]. There's no real need to build it yourself, but if you are really curious instructions on how to do it locally are here [3]. There's no guarantee when this will go live, but fingers crossed it will be floated soon and not for F19. The text and the screenshot I find a little uninspiring, so I really welcome anyone to contribute a alternate screenshot/text ideas ASAP! The link to the list of packages is taken from the jam spin page [4] and it could probably also do with some cleaning up. [1] http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/jam-website1.png [2] http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/jam-website2.png [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_fix_bugs_on_the_Fedora_Project_website [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_jam#Included_Packages

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Fwd: [PlanetCCRMA] landing on the Fedora 18 planet
by M. Edward (Ed) Borasky 22 Jan '13

22 Jan '13

In case you missed it ... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando(a)ccrma.stanford.edu> Date: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM Subject: [PlanetCCRMA] landing on the Fedora 18 planet To: planetccrma(a)ccrma.stanford.edu Cc: planetccrmanews(a)ccrma.stanford.edu, nando(a)ccrma.stanford.edu Hi all, I have just released a bunch of packages for Fedora 18. The rt kernel is based on 3.6.11 plus rt25, seems to work fine on a couple of systems I tested. As for the rest, the usual suspects that have not yet migrated to Fedora are there, including SuperCollider (3.6.2 with the new scide interface), pd-extended (same release as before), ChucK / miniAudicle, the CM/CLM/CMN/snd lisp/scheme world of tools and more. Missing at this point (that I know of): the old legacy cm, cheesetracker, fweelin, tapiir, timemachine, yass, ladspa-nova-plugins and a few more. Not a lot as most of the cool stuff is already in Fedora! Enjoy! -- Fernando PS: to install the planetccrma and planetcore repositories: rpm -Uvh http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/18/i3… or: rpm -Uvh http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/18/x8… package lists: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/18/i3… http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/18/x8… _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA(a)ccrma.stanford.edu http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism Publishers Workbench: http://znmeb.github.com/Computational-Journalism-Publishers-Workbench/ How the Hell can the lion sleep with all those people singing "A weem oh way!" at the top of their lungs?

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Outstanding design requests
by Brendan Jones 19 Jan '13

19 Jan '13

Hey all, just a quick note to let you know which design tasks we have outstanding: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/56 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/260 The first is 4 weeks old, but still current! The second by me, yesterday.. regards, Brendan

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Re: [Fedora-music-list] List of packages
by Christopher Antila 19 Jan '13

19 Jan '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 18 January 2013 06:13:29 Brendan Jones wrote: > On 01/18/2013 01:48 AM, Christopher Antila wrote: > > On 17 January 2013 21:15:34 Brendan Jones wrote: > >> Better to treat this as a remix from here (but still link to the > >> nightlies). Anyone have some space somewhere where we can host this? > > > > ... > > > > I could probably find a way to host static images of this release. > > Will absolutely be on the official page for Fedora 19. Release > engineering simply couldn't do it time. It is approved and official in > every other way I have a few more questions: 1.) Is it acceptable to host an official Fedora spin on non-Fedora infrastructure? 2.) Which nightly image should we take as the static one to host? 3.) Will there be other hosts? I'm wary of using my university's web space as the *only* official host of a Fedora spin. Christopher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQ+rXiAAoJEGpo1cWDqVnYdggP/0LgzIdO9rL+Y2MT20PvGMpl jgRDZrLZBR7ChMgjJJb8lsyHunUzVKyEww/5+OBnCRe7rMru0C8llih/bL2lj/gn 3ZUbT4WhiFu5X2TT0UQLex26+Z82k7R/s7FjEtcyJx4RJ00Bwqx64W6i+aMl2Hgm 7zW2ysJOxpSAWFVF2BdXiyX8an05mpWQYbiVummRvjOqtm9D2UEkwPJ3bSsCvJE0 n/5R8bQJ+oNr1xWCuyara6jUTLTmbDRwaJ2mKvk638ClyK1Ej9UXJQfZ3IEjTEcE dzEY41PtjHQjdQuj4O3j6/WQnOkeTWRLR1iIY65+j5lOX9a9KG+aRmiImdlY92TE tlwVnz6TsN+Tw4Nwxj05lK7luepqDNdUuY+Pdf5LrcR5M2hc8vxlmlK2v746T3Rh b1Hw26G/OLDia2isyJ9NnBpIBWvf2VRvF4iOy26rsmixPbz5brfrfvH/UIc/gFmu iebb/nRZhqxCh23b5pfJ2kKbJlHDUsJcQQCetDgGQr8osXf/X8V+dLTlo4+XfYv9 yko2ZIUucbFM33MM5Qfk0/Gqqax5qfdyVcRNgyPbfYJnuX/K7lMpkDNrkiVOubZa LOWMcDM7tHjg+zRdrFZdGunHW6y7BFiESLQiba9bzfm2yXrp9xCRi3wpw2iJKuZK KvR7deb6pfPNn++y6eM2 =hryE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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