http://www.pyrustek.com/ $179 ex tax at the moment
Exynos 5420-based, ie. 8 core big.LITTLE.
What do people think about this one?
(Note I'm only interested in this for KVM development.)
Rich.
Looks like a nice board.
The only disappointment is the console connectivity. The board exposes a serial header, would have to wire-up connectivity yourself. (DB9 connector would be nice)
The site mentioned code available from a "git-server". Would be nice to see if they have kernel support, etc. (Mostly we want a DTB for this specific board.)
The price is great, very affordable. Go for it.
-Jon Disnard
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjones@redhat.com wrote:
http://www.pyrustek.com/ $179 ex tax at the moment
Exynos 5420-based, ie. 8 core big.LITTLE.
What do people think about this one?
(Note I'm only interested in this for KVM development.)
Rich.
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Unfortunately they only support wire transfers which are like £10 from the UK and a giant PITA. Come on guys, Paypal ...
Rich.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Unfortunately they only support wire transfers which are like £10 from the UK and a giant PITA. Come on guys, Paypal ...
Rich.
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Does the product work?
-Connie Sieh
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 01:44:25PM -0500, Connie Sieh wrote:
Does the [ODROID-XU] product work?
Yes and no.
Yes I've got it to work and I'm now using it for some light compiling.
However there are some major shortcomings from my point of view (as someone looking specifically for a KVM / hardware virt development platform):
- No serial, impossible to see any boot messages.
- Display did not work at all until I spend nearly £200 buying a new HDMI monitor and the weird uncommon micro-HDMI cable that the ODROID-XU uses. Now it works after X starts, but not before. Still no boot messages.
- Despite a lot of trying, I could not work out how to recreate the boot process from their wiki, so I'm using the ODROID-supplied F19 disk image.
- Can only use the Android 3.4 kernel. Possibly an upstream kernel would work, but because I can't see any boot messages, I'm afraid to try because it would effectively brick it.
3.4 kernel doesn't support any KVM stuff, so it's useless for the intended purpose. We need to be running our own self-compiled upstream kernels for serious development.
For some background on this, here's what I am looking for:
http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-arm/msg06946.html
Rich.
The ODROID-XU is from the same stable as the earlier ODROID-X I use.
The main problem is with MAX98090 support where hardkernel have done their own thing which produces a driver that's way off what is possible with upstream kernel support and in an application like quisk for Software Defined Radio it's unusable and I have to use a USB sound card instead.
I have asked if their goad is eventually to merge with the upstream kernel and have been told never. Their kernel support is not the best either, seems like it is a one man job.
The latest kernel I built and have running is 3.8.13.10 with Mali 400 GPU support and 3.8.13.11 awaiting a reboot. root@odroid:~# uname -r 3.8.13.10 root@odroid:~# cat /etc/os-release NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION="13.04, Raring Ringtail" ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 13.04" VERSION_ID="13.04" HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/" SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"
As for the platform itself, I natively build kernels and everything else including Qt-5.1.1 as it has enough power to not need cross-compiling anything.
The Wandboard (wandboard.org) looks a better proposition. Regards Sid.
On 29/10/13 18:59, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 01:44:25PM -0500, Connie Sieh wrote:
Does the [ODROID-XU] product work?
Yes and no.
Yes I've got it to work and I'm now using it for some light compiling.
However there are some major shortcomings from my point of view (as someone looking specifically for a KVM / hardware virt development platform):
No serial, impossible to see any boot messages.
Display did not work at all until I spend nearly £200 buying a new HDMI monitor and the weird uncommon micro-HDMI cable that the ODROID-XU uses. Now it works after X starts, but not before. Still no boot messages.
Despite a lot of trying, I could not work out how to recreate the boot process from their wiki, so I'm using the ODROID-supplied F19 disk image.
Can only use the Android 3.4 kernel. Possibly an upstream kernel would work, but because I can't see any boot messages, I'm afraid to try because it would effectively brick it.
3.4 kernel doesn't support any KVM stuff, so it's useless for the intended purpose. We need to be running our own self-compiled upstream kernels for serious development.
For some background on this, here's what I am looking for:
http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-arm/msg06946.html
Rich.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:04:17PM +0000, Sid Boyce wrote:
The latest kernel I built and have running is 3.8.13.10 with Mali 400 GPU support and 3.8.13.11 awaiting a reboot.
[...]
As for the platform itself, I natively build kernels and everything else including Qt-5.1.1 as it has enough power to not need cross-compiling anything.
How do you compile these kernels? I mean to say, do you just compile the upstream 3.8.* stable kernels, or do you need to add patches, and if so what patches and from where?
Rich.
On 29/10/13 21:40, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:04:17PM +0000, Sid Boyce wrote:
The latest kernel I built and have running is 3.8.13.10 with Mali 400 GPU support and 3.8.13.11 awaiting a reboot.
[...]
As for the platform itself, I natively build kernels and everything else including Qt-5.1.1 as it has enough power to not need cross-compiling anything.
How do you compile these kernels? I mean to say, do you just compile the upstream 3.8.* stable kernels, or do you need to add patches, and if so what patches and from where?
Rich.
I had problems after installing the HDMI image from http://www.odroid.in/mirror/old-releases/ODROID-X/fedora-18-3.6.8/ which date back to 2012. It's possible the later images for -XU will run on -XU.
This is under Ubuntu which would differ greatly from Fedora. Rather lengthy but quite straightforward. "git clone git://github.com/hardkernel/linux.git -b odroid-3.8.y" which creates a linux directory. Checking linux/Makefile VERSION = 3 PATCHLEVEL = 8 SUBLEVEL = 13 EXTRAVERSION = .11 NAME = Remoralised Urchins Update
Then these commands:- mv linux linux-3.8.13.11 cd linux-3.8.13.11 zcat /proc/config.gz > .config make oldconfig make-kpkg -j 4 --initrd linux_headers linux_image
which results in 2 .deb files dkpg -i ../linux-headers-3.8.13.11_3.8.13.11-10.00.Custom_armhf.deb ../linux-image-3.8.13.11_3.8.13.11-10.00.Custom_armhf.deb
Regards Sid.
Richard, If you are looking for =cheap= virtualization support. It appears to be coming... (no I don't expect you to make a board from the IC just pointing out there should be cheap solutions fairly soon.)
http://www.electronicproducts.com/Digital_ICs/Microprocessors_Microcontrolle...
The IC has a DDR3L/DDR4 memory interface, a SATA3 6 Gbit/s interface, three triple speed Ethernet controllers, USB 3.0 with integrated PHY, PWM generation, and an LCD controller with touch support. It comes in a 19 x 19 mm package and LS1020A and LS1022A versions are also available. From $12.50 ea/10,000, samples Q1 2014.
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:37 PM, Sid Boyce sboyce@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
On 29/10/13 21:40, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:04:17PM +0000, Sid Boyce wrote:
The latest kernel I built and have running is 3.8.13.10 with Mali 400 GPU support and 3.8.13.11 awaiting a reboot.
[...]
As for the platform itself, I natively build kernels and everything else including Qt-5.1.1 as it has enough power to not need cross-compiling anything.
How do you compile these kernels? I mean to say, do you just compile the upstream 3.8.* stable kernels, or do you need to add patches, and if so what patches and from where?
Rich.
I had problems after installing the HDMI image from http://www.odroid.in/mirror/old-releases/ODROID-X/fedora-18-3.6.8/ which date back to 2012. It's possible the later images for -XU will run on -XU.
This is under Ubuntu which would differ greatly from Fedora. Rather lengthy but quite straightforward. "git clone git://github.com/hardkernel/linux.git -b odroid-3.8.y" which creates a linux directory. Checking linux/Makefile VERSION = 3 PATCHLEVEL = 8 SUBLEVEL = 13 EXTRAVERSION = .11 NAME = Remoralised Urchins Update
Then these commands:- mv linux linux-3.8.13.11 cd linux-3.8.13.11 zcat /proc/config.gz > .config make oldconfig make-kpkg -j 4 --initrd linux_headers linux_image
which results in 2 .deb files dkpg -i ../linux-headers-3.8.13.11_3.8.13.11-10.00.Custom_armhf.deb ../linux-image-3.8.13.11_3.8.13.11-10.00.Custom_armhf.deb
Regards Sid.
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
http://www.pyrustek.com/ $179 ex tax at the moment
Exynos 5420-based, ie. 8 core big.LITTLE.
What do people think about this one?
(Note I'm only interested in this for KVM development.)
Rich.
-- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now supports 80 OCaml packages (the OPEN alternative to F#) _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm
There is also the odroid-xu at http://www.hardkernel.com/ for 169.00 .
-Connie Sieh
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 01:26:10PM -0500, Connie Sieh wrote:
There is also the odroid-xu at http://www.hardkernel.com/ for 169.00 .
Yup, got that. Something of a pain so far.
Rich.
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