env-and-stacks September 2015

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Image naming on Env & Stacks meeting
by Honza Horak 01 Oct '15

01 Oct '15

Hi Scott (and others), we touched a topic about docker images naming (and possibly tags) conventions on centos meeting today. It seems users will benefit from having similar conventions in centos and fedora on docker hub, so they can easily identify images that are supposed to work the same. We may talk about it tomorrow on Env & Stacks meeting, which will start at 17:00 UTC (#fedora-meeting-2). Does it seem like a good idea? Are you able to make it? Honza

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FPC ticket for building for multiple versions of a language stack?
by Nick Coghlan 30 Sep '15

30 Sep '15

Hi folks, My Google-fu is failing me, so I'm asking to see if anyone else has the relevant link: I recall seeing a proposal a while back (from Slavek, IIRC) to support running a spec file multiple times with a different target location each time (but still having a default location used in a "normal" RPM build). This wasn't about SCLs, it was about situations like building for python 2 + python 3 + pypy + jython, or for the multiple Python 3 stacks in EPEL. The general idea was that packaging for multiple runtimes shouldn't be as difficult as it currently is. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

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Recommendations for image assembly
by Nick Coghlan 24 Sep '15

24 Sep '15

Hi folks, I've recently had a few conversations with folks that were wanting to know "what about non-RPM packaging formats?" in relation to the software component pipeline. My answer to that is "use source-to-image to layer non-RPM components atop lower level images assembled from RPMs", but that's not really written down anywhere public. Accordingly, while it likely isn't the right long term home, I started a page for "Image Assembly Recommendations" at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Projects/ImageAssemblyRecomme… The idea there is for us to start capturing more about how folks can use the *output* of the software component pipeline, both standalone and in combination with other non-RPM bits, to create larger binary artifacts. Most of those are still "built RPMs in -> binary artifact out", but layered images are the one case that aren't necessarily purely about assembly of already built components: source-to-image may be used to bring in source dependencies using language specific tools (maven, npm, bower, pip, gem, cpan, composer, etc), as well as application source code directly from git repos. While my initial write-up talks specifically about how each kind of artifact is likely to be built in Fedora, it likely makes more sense from an Envs & Stacks perspective to talk about them more generally in a way that's also useful to Fedora remixes and derivatives, and then point to Fedora's usage as an example. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

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Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-09-24)
by Honza Horak 24 Sep '15

24 Sep '15

WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (9:00 EST, 14:00 Brno, 8:00 Boston, 21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. = Topics = * Fedora dockerfiles -- versions, size, more involvement from E&S * Software Collections use cases in semi-containerized world Honza

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Re: rolekit, docker and some image (like database)
by Stephen Gallagher 23 Sep '15

23 Sep '15

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Tomas Tomecek <ttomecek(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > Quoting Petr Hracek (2015-09-11 12:36:27) >> Hi folks, >> >> we have talked with Honza Horak and Radek Vokal that we should start >> with a bit proof of concept or demo. >> >> I would like to play with it a bit. >> Do you have any hints? >> What OS shall I use? >> Is it enough Fedora or shall I use RHEL? >> Are there any guides how to run rolekit together with docker? >> >> I will use a packages available either on Fedora or on RHEL. >> >> I will write a report after my tests of course. >> >> I think that we should have a start point, therefore I decide it to do it. >> >> -- >> Petr Hracek >> Software Engineer >> Developer Experience >> Red Hat, Inc >> Mob: +420777056169 >> email: phracek(a)redhat.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> env-and-stacks mailing list >> env-and-stacks(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/env-and-stacks > > I think that we should get status of rolekit first. > > Stephen, what's the status of rolekit development? Are there any docs? I > couldn't find pretty much anything: > > https://github.com/sgallagher/rolekit/blame/master/README.md#L77 > We have been woefully late on docs, but I've got some new updates awaiting review that you can view in the meantime here: https://github.com/sgallagher/rolekit/blob/documentation/README.md Also, the man pages in Fedora are fairly comprehensive about the available options. > ~~ > Tomáš Tomeček > Software Engineer > Developer Experience > UTC+2 (CEST)

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Software Component Pipeline updates
by Nick Coghlan 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

Hi folks, I've made a couple of small additions to the Upstream Tracking section in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Projects/SoftwareComponentPip… Specifically, Honza Horak pointed out Petr Hracek's Rebase Helper [1] and the ROSA Labs API/ABI analysis tools [2] as being relevant to the "Upstream Release Monitoring" piece. That doesn't change the overall shape of the proposed pipeline, but it does highlight that there's more to the "Upstream Release Monitoring" piece than just tracking and reporting those releases in Anitya. Cheers, Nick. [1] https://github.com/phracek/rebase-helper [2] http://abi-laboratory.pro/open-source.html -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

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No agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting -> no meeting? (2015-09-17)
by Honza Horak 17 Sep '15

17 Sep '15

WG meeting should be at 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston, 2:00+1d Tokyo, 3:00+1d Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. However, there is no agenda proposed.. If there is something we should cover on the meeting, let me know asap... otherwise we can skip this week. Honza

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rolekit, docker and some image (like database)
by Petr Hracek 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Hi folks, we have talked with Honza Horak and Radek Vokal that we should start with a bit proof of concept or demo. I would like to play with it a bit. Do you have any hints? What OS shall I use? Is it enough Fedora or shall I use RHEL? Are there any guides how to run rolekit together with docker? I will use a packages available either on Fedora or on RHEL. I will write a report after my tests of course. I think that we should have a start point, therefore I decide it to do it. -- Petr Hracek Software Engineer Developer Experience Red Hat, Inc Mob: +420777056169 email: phracek(a)redhat.com

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Fedora Developer Portal - UX point of view
by Petr Hracek 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Hi Mairin, sorry for bother you with this item but I would like to ask you If you can thing about how Fedora Developer Portal could look like. I propose that skin or face for developer.fp.org can be used also for another portals which could be defined later on. Or even if they are already exists. I guess that fedoraproject.org should have a common face:) We would like to release a first version of Fedora Developer Portal in the middle of September but many folks could have holidays and I guess that you too.:) We already have a GitHub repo for mockups [1] and feel free to use it. I would like to really thank you for your time and support. [1] https://github.com/developer-portal/mockups Greetings Petr -- Petr Hracek Software Engineer Developer Experience Red Hat, Inc Mob: +420777056169 email: phracek(a)redhat.com

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Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2015-09-10)
by Honza Horak 10 Sep '15

10 Sep '15

WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC (9:00 EST, 14:00 Brno, 8:00 Boston, 21:00 Tokyo, 22:00 Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode. = Topics = * Developer portal -- whatever is needed for finalizing * RepoFunnel and the Software Component Pipeline -- any feedback https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2015-August/000902… * User level package management -- looking for AI https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2015-August/000884… Note: Deliberately omitting Langdon's agenda proposed few weeks back, since I don't expect Langdon today (but we can operatively add this in case he comes): https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2015-August/000887… Honza

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