kde October 2017

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How to set default session type to Plasma for sddm
by Roderick Johnstone 29 Oct '21

29 Oct '21

Hi How do I set the default session type for sddm to offer to be Plasma? I'm currently getting Gnome Classic? This is F22. Thanks Roderick Johnstone

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nntp (aka, usenet) client in kde?
by Gene Smith 07 Feb '20

07 Feb '20

I currently use t-bird with an nntp account pointing to gmane to read this list and sereral others. Does kde have an nntp client program of any sort? I don't see it as a possible new account type in kmail. Also, search with kpackagekit yields nothing with "usenet" or "nntp" that is kde specific. -gene

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time to orphan/retire unmaintained uncommon kde4 language bindings?
by Rex Dieter 28 May '19

28 May '19

Looking over some broken deps reports, I came across some old packages: kdebindings smokeqt smokekde qyoto (csharp/mono) kimono (csharp/mono) ruby-qt ruby-korundum perl-Qt Of these, the only one that's not a pure leaf package is perl-Qt (debconf- kde depends on it). any comment or objection to considering orphaning most (all minus smokeqt/perl-Qt) or all of these ? -- Rex

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Emacs key binding in KDE Plasma 5?
by Sherman Grunewagen 21 May '19

21 May '19

Just moved from Fedora 21 to F25. Under F21 I had a file ~/.gtkrc-2.0 which contained gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs" This enabled basic Emacs cursor motion keyboard commands in text input boxes throughout KDE, Firefox, &c. (Outside of input boxes, KDE shortcuts ruled.) How can I get this same behaviour for Plasma 5 w/in F25? From reading around, I've created ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and inserted [Settings] gtk-key-theme-name = Emacs in this empty file. This has given the desired result in Firefox and Thunderbird, but not w/in arbitrary text boxes in KDE (e.g. Alt-F2). The ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file is still intact, by the way. It seems to have no effect. Any ideas? -Sherman

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Usability issue, newly installed Fedora KDE plasma
by Morten W. Petersen 27 Nov '17

27 Nov '17

Hi there. I recently decided to try out Fedora, and installed it on my desktop computer. It has multiple sound cards, and I blogged about the process here: http://blogologue.com/frames?url=http://blogologue.com/blog_entry?id=150616… Today I looked around in the system settings menu, and found that I could set the preferred sound device there. Wouldn't it be a bit easier for a novice user to configure the preferred sound device from the sound panel in the taskbar? At least to begin with. And sound settings is easier to understand than "multimedia". Regards, Morten -- Videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBlogologue Twittering at http://twitter.com/blogologue Blogging at http://blogologue.com Playing music at https://soundcloud.com/morten-w-petersen Also playing music and podcasting here: http://www.mixcloud.com/morten-w-petersen/ On Google+ here https://plus.google.com/107781930037068750156 On Instagram at https://instagram.com/morphexx/

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2017-10-30 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 27 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 29 Oct '17

29 Oct '17

# F27 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2017-10-30 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We currently have 2 proposed Final blockers, 1 proposed Final freeze exception, and 1 proposed Server Beta blocker, so let's have a Fedora 27 blocker review meeting. If you have time tonight, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F27 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Note that for the special case of the Server release being split from the main release stream for Fedora 27, we have created separate Server blocker tracking bugs and will be following the same basic process for the Server release dates using those trackers. Have a good night and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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F27 Final validation testing requests
by Adam Williamson 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Hi folks! So I was looking through testcase_stats for F27 and I noticed several tests that haven't been run for some time, which we will need to run for Final. If folks could help out with running some of these, that'll be great. The current validation candidate (20171020.n.0) is fine, there should be a new one fairly soon too (maybe tomorrow). The Cloud x86_64 tests haven't been checked off since Beta; I'm not sure if there's really a need for those tests to be run manually given that we have autocloud, but if someone could check that'd be great. Several desktop tests haven't been run for x86_64 since Beta candidates: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_login https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_audio_basic https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_panel_basic https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_automount https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_workstation_core_applications https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_menus https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_panel_advanced https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_keyring It'd be a big help if folks could help run those tests on x86_64 on both blocking desktops (GNOME and KDE). For Installation, we're missing a few: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_install_to_firmware_RAID https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_install_to_hardware_RAID https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_install_to_FCoE_target https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_User_Interface_Basic_Vi… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_gnome-software_current_w… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_gnome-software_previous_… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Arabic_Language_Install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_help Again, if folks could help with those it'd be great. (I will take care of at least the hardware RAID one tomorrow). As usual, you can use these links to find the 'current' result pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test where you can find download links and manually enter results. You can also use the 'relval' CLI tool to enter results a bit more easily if you like, just 'dnf install relval' then 'relval report-results'. Thanks, everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Announcing kannolo-root-unlocker (also works on Fedora KDE)
by Kevin Kofler 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Hi, since both KDE upstream and the Fedora KDE SIG refuse to fix the regression that Dolphin, KWrite, and Kate can no longer be run as root, I have decided to write a small metapackage that automatically applies the binary patch to fix the issue. The patch that is applied is the 's/getuid/getpid/g' hack, see: https://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg19018.html for an explanation of how it works. The patched executables are written to /usr/local/bin. The metapackage uses file triggers so that the patched version is automatically updated when the original copy in /usr/bin is updated from the system package. While it would be possible in principle with this method to apply the patches in place in /usr/bin, I have decided against it, for 2 reasons: 1. integrity checks such as rpm -Va would fail on the patched executables, and 2. delta RPMs would fail because the original RPM could not be reconstructed. Writing the patched executables to a different directory avoids this issue. After installing this package, e.g., "kdesu kwrite" should just work again. You can get the package from the Kannolo Copr: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kkofler/kannolo/ Source code: https://svn.calcforge.org/viewvc/kannolo/trunk/packages/kannolo-root-unlock… Direct package link: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kkofler/kannolo/package/kannolo-roo… Enjoy! Kevin

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2017-10-23 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 27 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 20 Oct '17

20 Oct '17

# F27 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2017-10-23 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We currently have 8 proposed Final blockers, 9 proposed Final freeze exceptions, 5 proposed Server Beta blockers, and 1 proposed Server Beta freeze exception to review, so let's have a Fedora 27 blocker review meeting. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F27 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Note that for the special case of the Server release being split from the main release stream for Fedora 27, we have created separate Server blocker tracking bugs and will be following the same basic process for the Server release dates using those trackers. Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Applications on F27 beta live: Workstation vs KDE spin
by Luigi Toscano 17 Oct '17

17 Oct '17

Hi, We discussed many times about the set of applications available by default on the live ISO. I extracted the list of default programs available on the live images of Fedora 27 beta for Workstation edition (from the Activities overview) and KDE spin (from the Application Launcher). Few data points: = Gnome: 39 unique items complete list: see the attached f27_beta_workstation_all.txt = Plasma: 71 unique items, but 83 total (some in different categories) complete list: see the attached f27_beta_kde_all.txt 24 items have a one-o-one mapping between the two sets. There are two different issues that should be solved separately: 1) reduce the number of unique items 2) reduce the duplication I'm not sure how to properly address the point 2), as the menu spec allows applications to be in different categories. I'm not even sure that it is a real issue for the testing, so I will leave it out for now. Regarding poing 1), based also on the previous discussions on IRC, you can find below few initial proposals: == most likely can be removed == Wallet Management Tool for KDE4 (KWalletManager4) -> KWallet/KF5 can handle KWallet/Qt4 applications since 5.35 User Manager (KUser) -> removed upstream; Plasma provides a KCM module News Reader (KNode) -> not for a live Instant Messenger Contact (IM Contacts) -> part of KDE Telepathy KDE Instant Messenger Log Viewer (KDE IM Log Viewer) -> part of KDE Telepathy File Manager (Krusader) -> no need on a live File Manager (Krusader - root-mode) -> see Krusader MS Word DOCX Export Filter (MS Word DOCX Export Filter) -> glitch, removed upstream, just cherry-pick the patch Download with AMZ Downloader (AMZ Downloader) -> Disable the dependency from Amarok BitTorrent Client (KTorrent) -> not really needed on a live Color Chooser (KColorChooser) -> Plasma provides a plasmoid for that == maybe remove == D-Bus Debugger (Qt5 QDbusViewer) -> maybe move to dev packages, or its own subpackage? Minesweeper-like Game (KMines) Patience Card Game (KPatience) Mahjongg Solitaire (KMahjongg) Speech Synthesizer Frontend (KMouth) -> not required for speech synthesis (applications use the underlying library directly) Network Folder Wizard (KNetAttach) -> less relevant for a live Desktop Sharing (Krfb) -> server, can be installed later == more discussion probably required for a removal (?) == Find Files/Folders (KFind) -> dolphin search is different, maybe can be dropped Feed Reader (Akregator) Disk Burning (K3b) Remote Desktop Client (KRDC) Screen Ruler (KRuler) == further discussion == Find a way to see if the minor programs from KDE PIM can be exposed differently maybe Ciao -- Luigi

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