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Request for testing: Fedora 37 pre-Beta validation tests
by Adam Williamson 01 Sep '22

01 Sep '22

Hey folks! So we're in freeze for Fedora 37 Beta now, and the first go/no-go meeting should be on September 8. It would be really great if we can get the validation tests run now so we can find any remaining blocker bugs in good time to get them fixed. Right now the blocker list looks short, but there are definitely some tests that have not been run. You can use the testcase_stats view to find tests that need running: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/testcase_stats/37/ For each validation test set (Base, Desktop etc.) it shows when each test was last performed. So you can easily look for Basic and Beta tests that have not yet been run. We need to run all of these. You can enter results using `relval report-results`, or edit the summary results page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary . That's a redirect link which will always point to the validation results page for the currently-nominated compose, which right now is 20220826.n.0. Sumantro will be running a validation 'test week' starting on Wednesday, so you can drop by the Fedora Test Day room on chat.fedoraproject.org to hang out with other testers and get any help you need in testing. See https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedorapro… for that announcement. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Heads-up / for discussion: dnf not working with 1G of RAM or less
by Adam Williamson 29 Aug '22

29 Aug '22

Hey folks! I apologize for the wide distribution, but this seemed like a bug it'd be appropriate to get a wide range of input on. There's a bug that was proposed as an F37 Beta blocker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030 it's quite an old bug, but up until recently, the summary was apparently accurate - dnf would run out of memory with 512M of RAM, but was OK with 1G. However, as of quite recently, on F36 at least (not sure if anyone's explicitly tested F37), dnf operations are commonly failing on VMs/containers with 1G of RAM due to running out of RAM and getting OOM-killed. There's some discussion in the bug about what might be causing this and potential ways to resolve it, and please do dig into/contribute to that if you can, but the other question here I guess is: how much do we care about this? How bad is it that you can't reliably run dnf operations on top of a minimal Fedora environment with 1G of RAM? This obviously has some overlap with our stated hardware requirements, so here they are for the record: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/welcome/Ha… that specifies 2GB as the minimum memory for "the default installation", by which I think it's referring to a default Workstation install, though this should be clarified. But then there's a "Low memory installations" boxout, which suggests that "users with less than 768MB of system memory may have better results performing a minimal install and adding to it afterward", which kinda is recommending that people do exactly the thing that doesn't work (do a minimal install then use dnf on it), and implying it'll work. After some consideration I don't think it makes sense to take this bug as an F37 blocker, since it already affects F36, and that's what I'll be suggesting at the next blocker review meeting. However, it does seem a perfect candidate for prioritized bug status, and I've nominated it for that. I guess if folks can chime in with thoughts here and/or in the bug report, maybe a consensus will emerge on just how big of an issue this is (and how likely it is to get fixed). There will presumably be a FESCo ticket related to prioritized bug status too. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 28 Aug '22

28 Aug '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2022-08-29 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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Ownership of KDE packages
by Daniel Vrátil 22 Aug '22

22 Aug '22

Hi all, how's everyone in the SIG doing? :-) It's been a while since I posted to this list, and probably even more time since I contributed to Fedora KDE :-) I recently gave up the "packager" status, since, well, I'm no longer contributing to Fedora. Checking src.fpo I found I'm still in the role of Maintainer of many KDE packages (mostly Frameworks, which I submitted all those years ago), oftentimes with @kde-sig only having commit rights. Obviously, this is wrong, especially considering my recent level of involvement in the SIG ;-) I would like to fix the current state of affairs, but I want to consult the SIG first - IIRC (and my memory is really cloudy on this one), only specific people from the SIG had admin rights for packages, but my memory might be wrong and/or things may have changed since my time, so - should I assign @kde-sig as the Admin of all those packages, or only specific people (e.g. Neal, Rex, Than, ...? I don't even know who's active in the SIG anymore). Second, if I click the "Orphan" button, does it only remove me as a Maintainer, or does it completely orphan the package? If the latter, how do I remove myself from the package? At this point me having commit rights to all those packages is a security threat rather than anything else, so I would like to remove myself from all those packages. Especially since we can now do pull requests... Cheers, Dan

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2022-08-22 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 22 Aug '22

22 Aug '22

# F36 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2022-08-22 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 3 proposed Beta blockers, 1 proposed Beta freeze exception issue, and 13 proposed Final blockers to review, so let's have a review meeting. Note, I'll try and cut that number of Final blockers down before the meeting - it'll help if folks can vote ahead. If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good night/day and see you tomorrow/later today! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 21 Aug '22

21 Aug '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2022-08-22 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 14 Aug '22

14 Aug '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2022-08-15 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : KDE SIG
by ngompa＠fedoraproject.org 07 Aug '22

07 Aug '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: KDE SIG on 2022-08-08 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.kde.org/b/ale-swq-39j The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the KDE SIG Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIG… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9876/

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Plasma is not shown as an entry in switchdesk
by Robert McBroom 03 Aug '22

03 Aug '22

Fedora 36 booting mode 3 to a command line boot, the switchdesk entry Plasma doesn't do anything. I can switch from the default Gnome to xfce and back. Booting with a display manager has an entry for Plasma(X11) that works. the gui for switchdesk does not show Plasma. What needs to be done to get these functions back? Also the desktop menu not longer has an entry for "leave" can get there from the application launcher menu. Is there an edit to add it back to the desktop menu?

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