Everyone:
After updating Firefox I got a message to "refresh" it--that is, remove all add-ins. Foolishly I did so, thinking to reinstall them later using compatible versions.
But I have not been able to get Video Download Helper to work.
I followed their instructions to install a "companion application." That means working in a terminal version (actually, Konsole; I'm working in KDE). The messages I get all say the companion app is ready for use. But after repeated shutdowns and restarts, VDH still will not download anything.
Temlakos
Am 22.11.2017 um 13:34 schrieb Temlakos:
Everyone:
After updating Firefox I got a message to "refresh" it--that is, remove all add-ins. Foolishly I did so, thinking to reinstall them later using compatible versions.
But I have not been able to get Video Download Helper to work.
I followed their instructions to install a "companion application." That means working in a terminal version (actually, Konsole; I'm working in KDE). The messages I get all say the companion app is ready for use. But after repeated shutdowns and restarts, VDH still will not download anything
Firefox 57 has a completly new addon-engine and since as example "HTML Validator" has to implement libtidy as asm.js because you no longer can use binary code and so i strongly doubt a extension can start any "companion app" at all
however, this is *not* a KDE topic nor a Fedora topic at all
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 07:34:53AM -0500, Temlakos wrote:
Everyone:
After updating Firefox I got a message to "refresh" it--that is, remove all add-ins. Foolishly I did so, thinking to reinstall them later using compatible versions.
But I have not been able to get Video Download Helper to work.
I followed their instructions to install a "companion application." That means working in a terminal version (actually, Konsole; I'm working in KDE). The messages I get all say the companion app is ready for use. But after repeated shutdowns and restarts, VDH still will not download anything.
Did you look for alternatives that don't need companion apps? youtube-dl works for me.
I see a security disaster comming if addons ask users to install companion apps. Most of them may be legit but I am not keen to try out. Firefox byebye.
Richard
On 11/22/2017 04:47 PM, Richard Z wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 07:34:53AM -0500, Temlakos wrote:
Everyone:
After updating Firefox I got a message to "refresh" it--that is, remove all add-ins. Foolishly I did so, thinking to reinstall them later using compatible versions.
But I have not been able to get Video Download Helper to work.
I followed their instructions to install a "companion application." That means working in a terminal version (actually, Konsole; I'm working in KDE). The messages I get all say the companion app is ready for use. But after repeated shutdowns and restarts, VDH still will not download anything.
Did you look for alternatives that don't need companion apps? youtube-dl works for me.
I see a security disaster comming if addons ask users to install companion apps. Most of them may be legit but I am not keen to try out. Firefox byebye.
Richard
Yes. I looked for, and found, a simple alternative to VDH, at least for YouTube (my most common download source), that /does not require/ any companion apps. I didn't even have to restart Firefox in order to get it working. I've tested it on many videos--successfully.
It's the 1-click YouTube Video Downloader. One should be able to find that by searching the Firefox extension store.
Temlakos
Am 22.11.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Richard Z:
I see a security disaster comming if addons ask users to install companion apps. Most of them may be legit but I am not keen to try out. Firefox byebye
as you can see it don't really work and the opposite is true with FF57 so please stop spread uneducated FUD with "Firefox byebye" backed by nothing when the new addon-api restricts addons much more in what they can do as before which is the root cause of the topics problem
it's pervert respond to a more restricted addon-api as all the years before "I see a security disaster comming"
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:33:24PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.11.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Richard Z:
I see a security disaster comming if addons ask users to install companion apps. Most of them may be legit but I am not keen to try out. Firefox byebye
as you can see it don't really work and the opposite is true with FF57 so please stop spread uneducated FUD with "Firefox byebye" backed by nothing when the new addon-api restricts addons much more in what they can do as before which is the root cause of the topics problem
Read again. The addon asked him to install a "companion app" *because* of the restricted addon-api. That is an untrusted binary downloaded somewhere, never reviewed by anyone from mozilla with *full* access to your machine. How this is an improvement over the previous addon-api only mozilla knows.
Richard
Am 27.11.2017 um 16:27 schrieb Richard Z:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:33:24PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.11.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Richard Z:
I see a security disaster comming if addons ask users to install companion apps. Most of them may be legit but I am not keen to try out. Firefox byebye
as you can see it don't really work and the opposite is true with FF57 so please stop spread uneducated FUD with "Firefox byebye" backed by nothing when the new addon-api restricts addons much more in what they can do as before which is the root cause of the topics problem
Read again. The addon asked him to install a "companion app" *because* of the restricted addon-api. That is an untrusted binary downloaded somewhere, never reviewed by anyone from mozilla with *full* access to your machine. How this is an improvement over the previous addon-api only mozilla knows
read the whole thread
this did *not* work and nobody of both of us knows if the UI is just a leftover and the whole extension until now does not work properly with FF57
fact is that the new API is *much more* restricted than the old one
if you would *really* follow discussions in general you would know that because currently people also discuss what happens with thunderbird and if it ever get the new API hwat happens with enigmail because it relies on calling the gnupg binary which is *no longer* possible
again: don't spread FUD based on wild assumptions
Am 27.11.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 27.11.2017 um 16:27 schrieb Richard Z:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 11:33:24PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.11.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Richard Z:
I see a security disaster comming if addons ask users to install companion apps. Most of them may be legit but I am not keen to try out. Firefox byebye
as you can see it don't really work and the opposite is true with FF57 so please stop spread uneducated FUD with "Firefox byebye" backed by nothing when the new addon-api restricts addons much more in what they can do as before which is the root cause of the topics problem
Read again. The addon asked him to install a "companion app" *because* of the restricted addon-api. That is an untrusted binary downloaded somewhere, never reviewed by anyone from mozilla with *full* access to your machine. How this is an improvement over the previous addon-api only mozilla knows
read the whole thread
this did *not* work and nobody of both of us knows if the UI is just a leftover and the whole extension until now does not work properly with FF57
fact is that the new API is *much more* restricted than the old one
if you would *really* follow discussions in general you would know that because currently people also discuss what happens with thunderbird and if it ever get the new API hwat happens with enigmail because it relies on calling the gnupg binary which is *no longer* possible
again: don't spread FUD based on wild assumptions
here you go: https://www.downthemall.net/re-downthemall-and-webextensions-or-why-why-i-am...
quote: I have no hopes that they will implement proper APIs, not even for file writing[0 again]. Other than file writing, there are no proper APIs to do requests, there are no proper APIs for other stuff such as executing files, other kinds of OS integration, UI integration and so on and etc and pp.
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 04:46:38PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 27.11.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Reindl Harald:
again: don't spread FUD based on wild assumptions
here you go: https://www.downthemall.net/re-downthemall-and-webextensions-or-why-why-i-am...
someone expressing my thoughts. Does that change anything?
quote: I have no hopes that they will implement proper APIs, not even for file writing[0 again]. Other than file writing, there are no proper APIs to do requests, there are no proper APIs for other stuff such as executing files, other kinds of OS integration, UI integration and so on and etc and pp.
the only thing they implemented is a crappy way of doing it by forcing users to download untrusted binaries which the original thread was about.
Richard
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Richard Z rz@linux-m68k.org wrote:
the only thing they implemented is a crappy way of doing it by forcing users to download untrusted binaries which the original thread was about.
The binary is open source and the code is available to inspect. More information can be obtained by reading the FAQ for Fx here: https://www.downloadhelper.net/q_and_a_firefox
No need to speculate.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 10:33:03AM -0800, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Richard Z rz@linux-m68k.org wrote:
the only thing they implemented is a crappy way of doing it by forcing users to download untrusted binaries which the original thread was about.
The binary is open source and the code is available to inspect. More information can be obtained by reading the FAQ for Fx here: https://www.downloadhelper.net/q_and_a_firefox
yes, downloadhelper is good in this respect. But once users get used to addons asking them to download some binaries from somewhere I expect it will be abused very quickly.
It is beyond me why Firefox requires strict signing of addons but ecnourages downloading unverified third party binaries.
Richard
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