Hi,
on IRC, we have been discussing lately whether we should add a dedicated backup application to our live image (we probably should), and which one(s).
I have collected some thoughts on the following wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Backup_Solution
In short, we need to collect the common use cases and requirements (and also check which of them, if any, are already covered by e.g. Dolphin or Ark), and then evaluate how well the existing backup applications cover them. (Writing an entirely new application is not really in the scope of this discussion, it'd be a long-term task in any case. But this discussion MIGHT also be the starting point for such a project.)
I have started by collecting some features I would like to see, but some of those might not be really needed (at least for most users), and there may be more important ones I have forgotten. (I'd like to know about any additional features people would like to see.) My list is just the output of the brainstorming I did, it is by no means intended to be final or binding.
See the wiki page for details.
If you have any feedback, you can: * reply to this mail on this mailing list, * use the discussion (Talk) page attached to the wiki page, * edit the wiki directly and/or * come to discuss this on IRC in the #fedora-kde channel on Freenode.
We would appreciate any user feedback on this.
Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote:
I have collected some thoughts on the following wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Backup_Solution
I think I looked at kbackup, as well as a number of other graphical linux backup solutions. I have always gone back to rsync, which is strictly command line. What I don't like about some of the graphical methods is that they make tarballs of the backup image, etc. and I like to have a mirror image, so that I can just copy a file, should I need to replace it. Also, I can access it from both multi-user.target and graphical.target.
On Wednesday 9 March 2011 23:30:45 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
I have collected some thoughts on the following wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Backup_Solution
I think I looked at kbackup, as well as a number of other graphical linux backup solutions. I have always gone back to rsync, which is strictly command line.
Actually there is a GUI front-end for rsync "grsync" which I use for my backups and works well for my needs, I've not got around to trying any other backup tools yet.
Colin
On Wednesday 09 March 2011 23:40:12 Colin J Thomson wrote:
On Wednesday 9 March 2011 23:30:45 Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
I have collected some thoughts on the following wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Backup_Solution
I think I looked at kbackup, as well as a number of other graphical linux backup solutions. I have always gone back to rsync, which is strictly command line.
Actually there is a GUI front-end for rsync "grsync" which I use for my backups and works well for my needs, I've not got around to trying any other backup tools yet.
Does grsync work across a LAN? I want to backup (mirror) certain directories across the LAN using keychain to pass key passphrases.
Anne
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
I think I looked at kbackup, as well as a number of other graphical linux backup solutions. I have always gone back to rsync, which is strictly command line. What I don't like about some of the graphical methods is that they make tarballs of the backup image, etc. and I like to have a mirror image, so that I can just copy a file, should I need to replace it. Also, I can access it from both multi-user.target and graphical.target.
luckyBackup is based on rsync and it also has a text-mode UI.
Kevin Kofler
I wrote:
luckyBackup is based on rsync and it also has a text-mode UI.
PS: But the text-mode UI is provided by the same binary as the GUI, so, while it works outside of X11, you'll still need qt-x11 to run it (satisfy its linkage dependencies). That may or may not be a problem.
Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote:
I wrote:
luckyBackup is based on rsync and it also has a text-mode UI.
PS: But the text-mode UI is provided by the same binary as the GUI, so, while it works outside of X11, you'll still need qt-x11 to run it (satisfy its linkage dependencies). That may or may not be a problem.
I haven't tried that one, but it sounds very good.
On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 09:28:39 pm Kevin Kofler wrote:
Hi,
on IRC, we have been discussing lately whether we should add a dedicated backup application to our live image (we probably should), and which one(s).
I have collected some thoughts on the following wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Backup_Solution
In short, we need to collect the common use cases and requirements (and also check which of them, if any, are already covered by e.g. Dolphin or Ark), and then evaluate how well the existing backup applications cover them. (Writing an entirely new application is not really in the scope of this discussion, it'd be a long-term task in any case. But this discussion MIGHT also be the starting point for such a project.)
I have started by collecting some features I would like to see, but some of those might not be really needed (at least for most users), and there may be more important ones I have forgotten. (I'd like to know about any additional features people would like to see.) My list is just the output of the brainstorming I did, it is by no means intended to be final or binding.
See the wiki page for details.
If you have any feedback, you can:
- reply to this mail on this mailing list,
- use the discussion (Talk) page attached to the wiki page,
- edit the wiki directly and/or
- come to discuss this on IRC in the #fedora-kde channel on Freenode.
We would appreciate any user feedback on this.
One installation time use case - to make a backup of your current system as you're going to play with your partitions, formating etc. and you want to be sure you don't touch for example other OSes... I prefer connecting USB disk and making 1:1 copy (dd like but of course - clever one, only occupied space). Something like http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page but there's no ext4 support :(
If I want to reinstall from scratch - then solution listed in Wiki is more suitable.
R.
Kevin Kofler
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