Hi,
Does anyone out there understand how Firefox and Thunderbird determine which fonts to use for their user interface, i.e., menus, etc? I have installed "GTK styles and Fonts" display settings module. It works fine for ordinary gtk and Gnome applications. However, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to have some more complex system for determining their system fonts. The only way I can get F & T to respect my font choice while using KDE4 is to (1) log in under Gnome, (2) change some font settings, (3) log out (without rebooting) (4) log in under KDE4.
Does anyone else have this problem? I'd love to report it as a bug, but I'm not even sure which component is the problem.
--Jim Amundson
On Sunday 21 December 2008, James Amundson wrote:
Does anyone out there understand how Firefox and Thunderbird determine which fonts to use for their user interface, i.e., menus, etc? I have installed "GTK styles and Fonts" display settings module. It works fine for ordinary gtk and Gnome applications. However, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to have some more complex system for determining their system fonts. The only way I can get F & T to respect my font choice while using KDE4 is to (1) log in under Gnome, (2) change some font settings, (3) log out (without rebooting) (4) log in under KDE4.
Looks like they only honor the settings from gnome-settings-daemon (which doesn't run by default in KDE), not the GTK+ settings.
Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote:
On Sunday 21 December 2008, James Amundson wrote:
Does anyone out there understand how Firefox and Thunderbird determine which fonts to use for their user interface, i.e., menus, etc? I have installed "GTK styles and Fonts" display settings module. It works fine for ordinary gtk and Gnome applications. However, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to have some more complex system for determining their system fonts. The only way I can get F & T to respect my font choice while using KDE4 is to (1) log in under Gnome, (2) change some font settings, (3) log out (without rebooting) (4) log in under KDE4.
Looks like they only honor the settings from gnome-settings-daemon (which doesn't run by default in KDE), not the GTK+ settings.
Kevin Kofler
I had a possibly-related problem; in fc10 I could, suddenly, boot into Gnome but not into KDE. I assumed that I had somehow trashed the KDE config, but the problem was in the installation of the nvidia driver, from ATrpms, which was loading and failing to work with X.org modules. OK after adding the nvidia ModulePath lines to the Files section in xorg.conf. See nvidia-graphics177.80 (or similar) package description.
John Pilkington
John Pilkington
On Monday 22 December 2008, John Pilkington wrote:
I had a possibly-related problem; in fc10 I could, suddenly, boot into Gnome but not into KDE. I assumed that I had somehow trashed the KDE config, but the problem was in the installation of the nvidia driver, from ATrpms, which was loading and failing to work with X.org modules. OK after adding the nvidia ModulePath lines to the Files section in xorg.conf. See nvidia-graphics177.80 (or similar) package description.
I don't think this is the same problem at all.
Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote:
On Sunday 21 December 2008, James Amundson wrote:
Does anyone out there understand how Firefox and Thunderbird determine which fonts to use for their user interface, i.e., menus, etc? I have installed "GTK styles and Fonts" display settings module. It works fine for ordinary gtk and Gnome applications. However, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to have some more complex system for determining their system fonts.
Looks like they only honor the settings from gnome-settings-daemon (which doesn't run by default in KDE), not the GTK+ settings.
Yes, that must be true. I did not have a problem with Fedora 8 and KDE 3, so something must have changed. Any ideas?
--Jim Amundson
James Amundson wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
On Sunday 21 December 2008, James Amundson wrote:
Does anyone out there understand how Firefox and Thunderbird determine which fonts to use for their user interface, i.e., menus, etc? I have installed "GTK styles and Fonts" display settings module. It works fine for ordinary gtk and Gnome applications. However, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to have some more complex system for determining their system fonts.
Looks like they only honor the settings from gnome-settings-daemon (which doesn't run by default in KDE), not the GTK+ settings.
Yes, that must be true. I did not have a problem with Fedora 8 and KDE 3, so something must have changed. Any ideas?
OK. I think I see the culprit. Fedora 10 has xsettings-kde-0.6-3.fc8.x86_64 (fc8!!!!!!!!). The current version of xsettings-kde is 0.9. According to the xsettings-kde Changelog, KDE4 support was added around 0.8.
Is there any chance of getting a more recent version of xsettings-kde in Fedora 10? Should I submit a bug report?
--Jim Amundson
James Amundson wrote:
James Amundson wrote:
Kevin Kofler wrote:
On Sunday 21 December 2008, James Amundson wrote:
Does anyone out there understand how Firefox and Thunderbird determine which fonts to use for their user interface, i.e., menus, etc? I have installed "GTK styles and Fonts" display settings module. It works fine for ordinary gtk and Gnome applications. However, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to have some more complex system for determining their system fonts.
Looks like they only honor the settings from gnome-settings-daemon (which doesn't run by default in KDE), not the GTK+ settings.
Yes, that must be true. I did not have a problem with Fedora 8 and KDE 3, so something must have changed. Any ideas?
OK. I think I see the culprit. Fedora 10 has xsettings-kde-0.6-3.fc8.x86_64 (fc8!!!!!!!!). The current version of xsettings-kde is 0.9. According to the xsettings-kde Changelog, KDE4 support was added around 0.8.
Is there any chance of getting a more recent version of xsettings-kde in Fedora 10? Should I submit a bug report?
xsettings-kde was never in fedora, only kde-redhat. And, last I knew, never grew kde4 support... so the news that it has is welcome indeed.
I'll have to give it another look.
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
OK. I think I see the culprit. Fedora 10 has xsettings-kde-0.6-3.fc8.x86_64 (fc8!!!!!!!!). The current version of xsettings-kde is 0.9. According to the xsettings-kde Changelog, KDE4 support was added around 0.8.
Is there any chance of getting a more recent version of xsettings-kde in Fedora 10? Should I submit a bug report?
xsettings-kde was never in fedora, only kde-redhat. And, last I knew, never grew kde4 support... so the news that it has is welcome indeed.
Sorry for the misinformation... it's been awhile, but xsettings-kde was indeed included on F-8 (I totally forgot).
-- Rex
James Amundson wrote:
OK. I think I see the culprit. Fedora 10 has xsettings-kde-0.6-3.fc8.x86_64 (fc8!!!!!!!!). The current version of xsettings-kde is 0.9. According to the xsettings-kde Changelog, KDE4 support was added around 0.8.
Is there any chance of getting a more recent version of xsettings-kde in Fedora 10? Should I submit a bug report?
OK, pointers please. Mandriva's upstream svn hasn't been touched for 3+ years, and google isn't helping me either. Where did you see 0.9?
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
James Amundson wrote:
OK. I think I see the culprit. Fedora 10 has xsettings-kde-0.6-3.fc8.x86_64 (fc8!!!!!!!!). The current version of xsettings-kde is 0.9. According to the xsettings-kde Changelog, KDE4 support was added around 0.8.
Is there any chance of getting a more recent version of xsettings-kde in Fedora 10? Should I submit a bug report?
OK, pointers please. Mandriva's upstream svn hasn't been touched for 3+ years, and google isn't helping me either. Where did you see 0.9?
Nevermind, finally found it (mandriva's svn moved around a little on me)
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
Rex Dieter wrote:
James Amundson wrote:
OK. I think I see the culprit. Fedora 10 has xsettings-kde-0.6-3.fc8.x86_64 (fc8!!!!!!!!). The current version of xsettings-kde is 0.9. According to the xsettings-kde Changelog, KDE4 support was added around 0.8.
Nevermind, finally found it (mandriva's svn moved around a little on me)
Disappointing... afaict, it doesn't work at all (at least for font-related settings).
Nevertheless, I'll put it up for testing somewhere, so others can try it out too.
-- Rex
Disappointing... afaict, it doesn't work at all (at least for font-related settings).
Nevertheless, I'll put it up for testing somewhere, so others can try it out too.
Thanks.
I played with it a little. (It builds easily, at least.) It tries to read configuration information out of ~/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals instead of ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals. (The difference is ".kde4" instead of ".kde".) It also reads /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdeglobals. I was able to change my font settings under kde by editing /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdeglobals. It's ugly, but it's some kind of progress. I still have some issue with font sizes not being interpreted the same in gtk and kde, which must be a dpi settings problem.
--Jim
James Amundson wrote:
Disappointing... afaict, it doesn't work at all (at least for font-related settings).
Nevertheless, I'll put it up for testing somewhere, so others can try it out too.
Thanks.
I played with it a little. (It builds easily, at least.) It tries to read configuration information out of ~/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals instead of ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals. (The difference is ".kde4"
Ah, I was about to suspect that. Bad, bad mandriva. :)
Time to fix that, and make it actually work.
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
James Amundson wrote:
Disappointing... afaict, it doesn't work at all (at least for font-related settings).
Nevertheless, I'll put it up for testing somewhere, so others can try it out too.
Thanks.
I played with it a little. (It builds easily, at least.) It tries to read configuration information out of ~/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals instead of ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals. (The difference is ".kde4"
Ah, I was about to suspect that. Time to fix that, and make it actually work.
fyi, quick-n-dirty first attempt: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/xsettings-kde/xsettings-kde-0.9-kd...
And, scratch F-10 build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1027309
-- Rex
Rex Dieter wrote:
James Amundson wrote:
Disappointing... afaict, it doesn't work at all (at least for font-related settings).
Nevertheless, I'll put it up for testing somewhere, so others can try it out too.
Thanks.
I played with it a little. (It builds easily, at least.) It tries to read configuration information out of ~/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals instead of ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals. (The difference is ".kde4"
Ah, I was about to suspect that. Bad, bad mandriva. :)
Time to fix that, and make it actually work.
OK, xsettings-kde-0.9-1 is now in F-9/F-10 kde-redhat testing repos.
-- Rex
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