Every time I log in I get a segfault on kactivitymanagerd. I've reported it to the Fedora Bugzilla and I assume it will be upstreamed to the KDE BZ.
I created a completely new user, logged in, and it immediately happened again. The current version is:
kactivitymanagerd-5.9.5-1.fc25.x86_64
but it's been happening for a while now.
I've never used the Activity Manager and don't understand what it's for in a system that already supports multiple VTs (kind of - the KDE/Plasma version doesn't work well for me), as well as multiple desktops which I do use extensively, so why do we need another layer of multiplexing?
Personally, I would like to get rid of it, but that doesn't seem to be possible without removing Plasma.
How many people actually use multiple Activities? Is there anything you do with them that you couldn't do just as easily with multiple desktops, or even multiple VTs?
poc
On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:30:58 CEST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Every time I log in I get a segfault on kactivitymanagerd. I've reported it to the Fedora Bugzilla and I assume it will be upstreamed to the KDE BZ.
I created a completely new user, logged in, and it immediately happened again. The current version is:
kactivitymanagerd-5.9.5-1.fc25.x86_64
but it's been happening for a while now.
I've never used the Activity Manager and don't understand what it's for in a system that already supports multiple VTs (kind of - the KDE/Plasma version doesn't work well for me), as well as multiple desktops which I do use extensively, so why do we need another layer of multiplexing?
Personally, I would like to get rid of it, but that doesn't seem to be possible without removing Plasma.
IIRC kactivitymanagerd takes care also of the recent files and documents in the application launcher menu. If my memory is correct, you don't want to remove it. The segfault should be solved instead.
On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 12:38 +0200, Luigi Toscano wrote:
On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:30:58 CEST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Every time I log in I get a segfault on kactivitymanagerd. I've reported it to the Fedora Bugzilla and I assume it will be upstreamed to the KDE BZ.
I created a completely new user, logged in, and it immediately happened again. The current version is:
kactivitymanagerd-5.9.5-1.fc25.x86_64
but it's been happening for a while now.
I've never used the Activity Manager and don't understand what it's for in a system that already supports multiple VTs (kind of - the KDE/Plasma version doesn't work well for me), as well as multiple desktops which I do use extensively, so why do we need another layer of multiplexing?
Personally, I would like to get rid of it, but that doesn't seem to be possible without removing Plasma.
IIRC kactivitymanagerd takes care also of the recent files and documents in the application launcher menu.
Perhaps, but I find it hard to believe this is its main focus. Other desktops seem to manage the same thing equally well.
If my memory is correct, you don't want to remove it. The segfault should be solved instead.
I would like to remove it but can't as it's a dependency of Plasma. In my case losing the "recent stuff" function would be no great loss, though other people might have a different view.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I've never used the Activity Manager and don't understand
what it's for
in a system that already supports multiple VTs (kind of -
the
KDE/Plasma version doesn't work well for me), as well as
multiple
desktops which I do use extensively, so why do we need
another layer of
multiplexing?
I haven't been plagued by crashes, but there has been a notification once or twice in the past few weeks? months? that an application crashed. Since I had only just logged in, had not even started any program and everything appeared to be working fine, I opted not to report.
Yes, I thought, right from the start, that activities were a major waste of effort that produced _no_ discernible advantage and were actually very confusing. I think they are supposed to set an environment and open all of the programs you use for that particular purpose automatically. I suppose if one has a complex environment that requires the use of a dozen or more programs at once that one is doing on a daily basis, but for a typical user who has 2-4 opened, perhaps for a few moments even a 5th... activities just don't offer any practical advantage.
Agreed: I could barely use the system without Virtual Desktops (or did you really mean Virtual Terminals?). Frequently, I need to have 3 or even 4 programs open at one time—perhaps the intended purpose of activities?—but I just open the programs as need and I close them all when I'm done. That's a tidy desktop. I don't leave desk drawers on a physical desk opened, either.
IIRC kactivitymanagerd takes care also of the recent files and documents in the application launcher menu.
Recent Files are ok, but not a necessity for me. Sure, when a list is offered, I click on it instead of seeking the file in my directory hierarchy, but it is just a piddling convenience that hardly warrants a major feature such as activities.
To me, activities were the useless invention of the past decade. Gnome introduced a similar version, but much simpler. It is almost impossible to use that desktop as a result. You have the one window for selecting the application and the other one for the opened application, but when you have more than one open at a time you can only see one and, I guess, you are supposed to flip back and forth by clicking on the task bar... it is a grievous restriction of the user's method of working that frustrates to distraction. I feel like I have discovered new continents when I come back to KDE and have Virtual Desktops.
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Every time I log in I get a segfault on kactivitymanagerd. I've reported it to the Fedora Bugzilla and I assume it will be upstreamed to the KDE BZ.
I wouldn't assume that.
I personally usually do not do that (upstream things) unless I can reproduce the problem myself
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