Every time I start Fedora it loads Dolphin, which I don't want.
Where should I look for it doing that (so I can stop it)?
I also notice that, even though I've closed it, there's still a (small) dolphin process running... what's that about?
Thanks in advance Mark
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 09:27 +0100, Mark @ GMail wrote:
Every time I start Fedora it loads Dolphin, which I don't want.
Where should I look for it doing that (so I can stop it)?
I also notice that, even though I've closed it, there's still a (small) dolphin process running... what's that about?
See https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
and also a thread on the KDE Bugzilla:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418322
poc
Thanks for that Patrick.
I followed those suggestions, I think.
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
I can't tell from the Bugzilla thread whether the issue is resolved upstream. I guess not.
Mark
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 11:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 09:27 +0100, Mark @ GMail wrote:
Every time I start Fedora it loads Dolphin, which I don't want.
Where should I look for it doing that (so I can stop it)?
I also notice that, even though I've closed it, there's still a (small) dolphin process running... what's that about?
See https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
and also a thread on the KDE Bugzilla:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=418322
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On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 15:36 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Nope, doesn't work. All sorts of things have been tried (see the Bugzilla thread). Some of them seem to work some of the time for some people, but nothing works all the time for everyone.
poc
On Monday, September 7, 2020 3:48:29 PM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 15:36 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Nope, doesn't work. All sorts of things have been tried (see the Bugzilla thread). Some of them seem to work some of the time for some people, but nothing works all the time for everyone.
I can only say that it was effective on three systems I own all running (now) F32. Yes, when I upgraded, that file came back and the unwanted Dophin instance at start-up time came back. But after removing the file, the auto-start of Dolphin was gone for me on all three systems. It may be that killing the dolphin --daemon process before logging out is needed, too. But I do not see Dophin at start-up or login time any more.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 16:07 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 3:48:29 PM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 15:36 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Nope, doesn't work. All sorts of things have been tried (see the Bugzilla thread). Some of them seem to work some of the time for some people, but nothing works all the time for everyone.
I can only say that it was effective on three systems I own all running (now) F32. Yes, when I upgraded, that file came back and the unwanted Dophin instance at start-up time came back. But after removing the file, the auto-start of Dolphin was gone for me on all three systems. It may be that killing the dolphin --daemon process before logging out is needed, too. But I do not see Dophin at start-up or login time any more.
We probably have a difference in requirements. I do want to start some Dolphin windows on login, but I always get an extra one and there's no way to get rid of it other than killing it every time.
poc
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your ~/.config/autostart directory and add the Hidden=true directive.
On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
Hidden=true directive.
OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
$ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop dolphin-... $ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin ... $ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
I still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Thank you, Ed.
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:40 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
Hidden=true directive.
OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
$ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop dolphin-... $ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin ... $ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktopI still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Try it after saving your session with at least one Dolphin window.
poc
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:26:01 AM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:40 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
Hidden=true directive.
OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
$ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop dolphin-... $ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin ... $ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktopI still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Try it after saving your session with at least one Dolphin window.
Just did that and only the one instance of Dolphin was restarted. This (masking /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop) is effective. It eliminates any auto-start copy of Dolphin for me.
On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 08:42 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:26:01 AM EDT Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:40 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 5:53:22 PM EDT Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-09-08 03:36, Garry T. Williams wrote:
On Monday, September 7, 2020 1:47:50 PM EDT Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is still starting Dolphin.
Remove /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
Actually, one should not remove that file as it belongs to the dolphin package.
You can override the behavior by copying the file to your ~/.config/autostart directory and add the
Hidden=true directive.
OK, I knew I shouldn't, but I didn't know how to override. So...
$ sudo dnf provides /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop dolphin-... $ sudo dnf reinstall dolphin ... $ ln -s /dev/null ~/.config/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktopI still do not get a copy of dolphin auto-started after that. The dolphin package is restored and the override works fine.
Try it after saving your session with at least one Dolphin window.
Just did that and only the one instance of Dolphin was restarted. This (masking /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.dolphin.desktop) is effective. It eliminates any auto-start copy of Dolphin for me.
Just to double-check, I reinstalled Dolphin, linked to /dev/null as above, saved the session with the correct number of Dolphin windows, logged out and logged in again.
I still get an extra window.
poc
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 18:47 +0100, Mark @ GMail wrote:
I closed down the Dolphin process, logged out and logged in (that
should have saved the session, shouldn't it?), and when that didn't do
the trick I removed the suggested file from /etc/xdg, but something is
still starting Dolphin.
I can't tell from the Bugzilla thread whether the issue is resolved
upstream. I guess not.
[Please don't top-post]
It's not resolved and is still annoying.
poc
On Monday, September 7, 2020 8:45:00 PM WET Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
It's not resolved and is still annoying.
poc
Now it is fixed. At least on F33, where I am now.
Thank you to all the involved. :-)
I noticed the mention first in Nate Graham's blog "This week in KDE" and actually this week I missed a new dolphin instance always showing up at start. Let us call this the Stockholm Syndrome. :-D
Best regards,
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Patrick O'Callaghan