I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
Anne
On 04/23/2010 07:04 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
uid is different on your F13 system?
Reply to All / Reply to List On Friday 23 April 2010 12:09:55 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/23/2010 07:04 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
uid is different on your F13 system?
No. In konsole I can go to /mnt/server_Data1 and list. The owner of the files is anne:users, and 'whoami' says I'm anne. Besides, I always make sure that I get the same UID and GID on all my systems ;-)
Anne
On Friday 23 April 2010 14:21:14 Anne Wilson wrote:
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 12:09:55 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/23/2010 07:04 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
uid is different on your F13 system?
No. In konsole I can go to /mnt/server_Data1 and list. The owner of the files is anne:users, and 'whoami' says I'm anne. Besides, I always make sure that I get the same UID and GID on all my systems ;-)
Anne
Hi Anne
Ed is probably correct. UID and GID are not your name, they are numbers attached to an alias for those numbers.
You will probably find that the numbers assosicated with your user in /etc/passwd and group /etc/group do not match between computers. Once you've made them match, you will need to retake ownership of any file or folder on the system where you've changed the uid and gid. Also, after you've done that you will need to re export your nfs mounts and restart start the relevant services.
Eli
Reply to All / Reply to List On Friday 23 April 2010 13:52:12 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 14:21:14 Anne Wilson wrote:
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 12:09:55 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/23/2010 07:04 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
uid is different on your F13 system?
No. In konsole I can go to /mnt/server_Data1 and list. The owner of the files is anne:users, and 'whoami' says I'm anne. Besides, I always make sure that I get the same UID and GID on all my systems ;-)
Anne
Hi Anne
Ed is probably correct. UID and GID are not your name, they are numbers attached to an alias for those numbers.
You will probably find that the numbers assosicated with your user in /etc/passwd and group /etc/group do not match between computers. Once you've made them match, you will need to retake ownership of any file or folder on the system where you've changed the uid and gid. Also, after you've done that you will need to re export your nfs mounts and restart start the relevant services.
I'm 500 on all my computers - and yes, I have checked :-) There isn't anything to change.
Anne
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:11:21 Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Friday 23 April 2010 13:52:12 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 14:21:14 Anne Wilson wrote:
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 12:09:55 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/23/2010 07:04 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
Ahh... Didn't read carefully enough. Did you indicate in /etc/exports the correct permssions
ie:
/directory1 comp1(rw,sync) comp2(rw,sync) comp3(rw,sync)
Where comp1, comp2, comp3 are the ips of the computers or there resolvable names either from the hosts file or dns.
If you've just added the appropriate permissions without running:
exportfs -r
you will have problems connecting to the folder
Eli
Reply to All / Reply to List On Friday 23 April 2010 18:24:18 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:11:21 Anne Wilson wrote:
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 13:52:12 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 14:21:14 Anne Wilson wrote:
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Friday 23 April 2010 12:09:55 Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/23/2010 07:04 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
What am I missing?
Ahh... Didn't read carefully enough. Did you indicate in /etc/exports the correct permssions
ie:
/directory1 comp1(rw,sync) comp2(rw,sync) comp3(rw,sync)
Where comp1, comp2, comp3 are the ips of the computers or there resolvable names either from the hosts file or dns.
If you've just added the appropriate permissions without running:
exportfs -r
you will have problems connecting to the folder
Eli, you know how reliable my memory is, these days. I can only say that I've touched nothing on the server. As far as I can recall, I set up the old laptop, and indeed the netbook, to mount the directory in fstab, and everything 'just worked'.
To complicate matters even more - I've just discovered that I can open files from several other folders under that mount. The problem appears to be confined to the spreadsheets folder.
-rwxrwxr-x 1 anne users 18747 Apr 2 10:05 fuelUsed.ods
is a typical listing. In all cases that equates to 500:100.
Anne
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Eli
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:53:46 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Yes, checked that as well. Owned anne:users, perms 774
Anne
On Saturday 24 April 2010 14:56:47 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:53:46 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Yes, checked that as well. Owned anne:users, perms 774
I'm at a complete loss. :)
The only thing left... That I can think of is to go over the howto doc at:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/index.html
It was a very long time since I had to set up nfs and when I did, this was the document that I followed. My nfs setup has been trouble free ever since.
Eli
Anne
On 04/24/2010 04:50 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Saturday 24 April 2010 14:56:47 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:53:46 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Yes, checked that as well. Owned anne:users, perms 774
I'm at a complete loss. :)
The only thing left... That I can think of is to go over the howto doc at:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/index.html
It was a very long time since I had to set up nfs and when I did, this was the document that I followed. My nfs setup has been trouble free ever since.
Anne, from Konsole, in your spreadsheet directory, are you able to open the file using:
ooffice fuelUsed.ods
?
Eli
Anne
On Saturday 24 April 2010 10:00:09 pm Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 04/24/2010 04:50 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Saturday 24 April 2010 14:56:47 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:53:46 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Yes, checked that as well. Owned anne:users, perms 774
I'm at a complete loss. :)
The only thing left... That I can think of is to go over the howto doc at:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/index.html
It was a very long time since I had to set up nfs and when I did, this was the document that I followed. My nfs setup has been trouble free ever since.
Anne, from Konsole, in your spreadsheet directory, are you able to open the file using:
ooffice fuelUsed.ods
?
No - I still get it read-only on the F13 laptop.
Anne
On 04/24/2010 07:56 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:53:46 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Yes, checked that as well. Owned anne:users, perms 774
"Good News"....I think I have a similar problem.....
The nfs server is a RHELv4 system. The exports contains....
/home/egreshko 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,fsid=0,nohide)
This is mounted just fine on a F11 system whose fstab contains...
misty:/ /home/egreshko/misty nfs4 rw
On the F13 system the fstab contains....
192.168.0.55:/ /media/test nfs4 rw
Now the weirdness, on the F13 system....
[egreshko@f13 media]$ ls -l total 12 drwx------. 170 nobody nobody 8192 Apr 25 10:22 test
[egreshko@f13 media]$ ls -n total 12 drwx------. 170 99 99 8192 Apr 25 10:22 test
[egreshko@f13 media]$ touch test/x [egreshko@f13 media]$ ll test/x -rw-rw-r--. 1 nobody nobody 0 Apr 25 10:23 test/x
[egreshko@f13 media]$ ls -n test/x -rw-rw-r--. 1 99 99 0 Apr 25 10:23 test/x
If I go to the RHELv4 system or the F11 system I see....
[egreshko@meimei misty]$ ll x -rw-rw-r--. 1 egreshko egreshko 0 2010-04-25 10:23 x
[egreshko@meimei misty]$ ls -n x -rw-rw-r--. 1 500 500 0 2010-04-25 10:23 x
I'm thinking it must be related to the idmapd process....
I find it strange that the log file shows....
rpc.idmapd[3376]: nss_getpwnam: name 'egreshko@localdomain' does not map into domain 'greshko.com'
when.... [root@f13 etc]# hostname f13.greshko.com [root@f13 etc]# host f13.greshko.com f13.greshko.com has address 192.168.0.196
and the idmapd.conf contains....
Domain = greshko.com
I'm getting the feeling this should be moved to the "fedora-test" list....
On Sunday 25 April 2010 03:46:02 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/24/2010 07:56 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:53:46 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2010 20:43:51 Anne Wilson wrote:
confined to the spreadsheets folder.
So I gotta ask a dumb question. What is the permissions on the spreadsheat folder itself?
Yes, checked that as well. Owned anne:users, perms 774
"Good News"....I think I have a similar problem.....
The nfs server is a RHELv4 system. The exports contains....
/home/egreshko 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,fsid=0,nohide)
This is mounted just fine on a F11 system whose fstab contains...
misty:/ /home/egreshko/misty nfs4 rw
On the F13 system the fstab contains....
192.168.0.55:/ /media/test nfs4 rw
Now the weirdness, on the F13 system....
[egreshko@f13 media]$ ls -l total 12 drwx------. 170 nobody nobody 8192 Apr 25 10:22 test
[egreshko@f13 media]$ ls -n total 12 drwx------. 170 99 99 8192 Apr 25 10:22 test
[egreshko@f13 media]$ touch test/x [egreshko@f13 media]$ ll test/x -rw-rw-r--. 1 nobody nobody 0 Apr 25 10:23 test/x
[egreshko@f13 media]$ ls -n test/x -rw-rw-r--. 1 99 99 0 Apr 25 10:23 test/x
If I go to the RHELv4 system or the F11 system I see....
[egreshko@meimei misty]$ ll x -rw-rw-r--. 1 egreshko egreshko 0 2010-04-25 10:23 x
[egreshko@meimei misty]$ ls -n x -rw-rw-r--. 1 500 500 0 2010-04-25 10:23 x
I'm thinking it must be related to the idmapd process....
I find it strange that the log file shows....
rpc.idmapd[3376]: nss_getpwnam: name 'egreshko@localdomain' does not map into domain 'greshko.com'
when.... [root@f13 etc]# hostname f13.greshko.com [root@f13 etc]# host f13.greshko.com f13.greshko.com has address 192.168.0.196
and the idmapd.conf contains....
Domain = greshko.com
I'm getting the feeling this should be moved to the "fedora-test" list....
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Anne
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 11:38:17 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
OK - so it solved it for you. It looks as though mine is a different issue, then. I can't see how it can be a server problem when the files are editable on the other laptop. It has to be something local, but I've no idea what.
Anne
On 04/27/2010 08:45 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 11:38:17 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
OK - so it solved it for you. It looks as though mine is a different issue, then. I can't see how it can be a server problem when the files are editable on the other laptop. It has to be something local, but I've no idea what.
Don't forget that idmap is a 2 way process. The problem I was seeing manifested itself on the client side...but the actual problem was server side. Had I thought about it more, and paid attention to the idmapd message in the log file (and wasn't "sure" nothing changed on the server side) I would have found the problem sooner. I didn't look back on this thread...but I hope you checked the logs on both sides....
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 15:45:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 11:38:17 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
OK - so it solved it for you. It looks as though mine is a different issue, then. I can't see how it can be a server problem when the files are editable on the other laptop. It has to be something local, but I've no idea what.
Anne
It could be a bug?
Eli
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 19:14:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 15:45:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 11:38:17 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
OK - so it solved it for you. It looks as though mine is a different issue, then. I can't see how it can be a server problem when the files are editable on the other laptop. It has to be something local, but I've no idea what.
Anne
It could be a bug?
Eli
Hi Anne,
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 19:14:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 15:45:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 11:38:17 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
OK - so it solved it for you. It looks as though mine is a different issue, then. I can't see how it can be a server problem when the files are editable on the other laptop. It has to be something local, but I've no idea what.
Anne
It could be a bug?
Eli
Hi Anne,
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
That's worrying. I'm pretty sure CentOS doesn't support NFS4 - RHEL may do in the release that came out only a week or two ago, but didn't before that. I would think that the server will have to support the same protocol as the client is using, for it to work?
The wiki page says that the transition should be seamless, and the only dependency is nfs-utils. I have nfs-utils installed. This is something of a show-stopper for me.
Anne
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 14:13:27 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 19:14:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 15:45:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi Anne,
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
That's worrying. I'm pretty sure CentOS doesn't support NFS4 - RHEL may do in the release that came out only a week or two ago, but didn't before that. I would think that the server will have to support the same protocol as the client is using, for it to work?
The wiki page says that the transition should be seamless, and the only dependency is nfs-utils. I have nfs-utils installed. This is something of a show-stopper for me.
Anne
If this is the problem, can't you force NFSv3 in the mount options in fstab?
On 04/28/2010 02:13 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 19:14:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 15:45:36 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 11:38:17 am Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/27/2010 05:22 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
Ed and Eli - sorry for the delay on this. I made a big bwa-hwa and destroyed my Win7 completely, to the point where I had to do a factory default install. That of course then needed re-partitioning, re-installing F13 and everything else.
I'm no nearer sorting this. I can edit the files on the F12 laptop, but not on the F13 one. You investigation raises questions, but frankly I think this is maybe beyond my expertise. I'll subscribe to the fedora-test list today. Have you raised the problem with them yet?
Yes... Didn't get too much in the way of responses.... And today, less than 30 minutes ago, I wrote the list to inform them....
As Emily Litella would say...."Never mind".
Someone had rolled back the rhelv4 server to a previous snapshot where the idmapd.conf hadn't been modified correctly. I made the common mistake of assuming....
OK - so it solved it for you. It looks as though mine is a different issue, then. I can't see how it can be a server problem when the files are editable on the other laptop. It has to be something local, but I've no idea what.
Anne
It could be a bug?
Eli
Hi Anne,
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
That's worrying. I'm pretty sure CentOS doesn't support NFS4 - RHEL may do in the release that came out only a week or two ago, but didn't before that. I would think that the server will have to support the same protocol as the client is using, for it to work?
Centos supports NFS4. Just like RHEL does.
The wiki page says that the transition should be seamless, and the only dependency is nfs-utils. I have nfs-utils installed. This is something of a show-stopper for me.
Seamless is a matter of opinion. There are differences in how mount points work.
Am 27.04.2010 20:13, schrieb Anne Wilson:
That's worrying. I'm pretty sure CentOS doesn't support NFS4 - RHEL may do in the release that came out only a week or two ago, but didn't before that. I would think that the server will have to support the same protocol as the client is using, for it to work?
Hi Anne,
Centos5 (as well as RHEL5) do support NFSv4. And I think C4 and RHEL4 do so too, invented in a later Update.
Hth Rainer
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 08:40:47 Rainer Traut wrote:
Am 27.04.2010 20:13, schrieb Anne Wilson:
That's worrying. I'm pretty sure CentOS doesn't support NFS4 - RHEL may do in the release that came out only a week or two ago, but didn't before that. I would think that the server will have to support the same protocol as the client is using, for it to work?
Hi Anne,
Centos5 (as well as RHEL5) do support NFSv4. And I think C4 and RHEL4 do so too, invented in a later Update.
I've only been using nfs mounts for a year or so, so know very little about the subject. My first effort was to set up nfs4 and I was told that it wouldn't work, so I should use nfs3, which, AIUI, is what I currently have.
Prior to that I used samba mounts, since the same mounts worked for both the Linux connections and the Windows ones. When I no longer needed the Windows connection I thought I should change. I guess samba will have moved on, too, in the interval :-(
Anne
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Anne
Anne Wilson ha scritto:
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Just a wild guess. Could this be related to the Desktop Entry (or whatever it has become in F13) relative to OpenOffice? Have you tried to invoke OpenOffice from a terminal: ooffice (or whatever) /media/test/etc... This should restrict the area of investigation.
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 20:06:50 Giuliano Colla wrote:
Anne Wilson ha scritto:
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Just a wild guess. Could this be related to the Desktop Entry (or whatever it has become in F13) relative to OpenOffice? Have you tried to invoke OpenOffice from a terminal: ooffice (or whatever) /media/test/etc... This should restrict the area of investigation.
That also opens a read-only copy.
Anne
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 22:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nfs.jspx http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4.jspx
Eli
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:24:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 22:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nfs.jspx http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4.jspx
Eli
One more article.
Eli
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:27:32 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:24:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 22:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nfs.js px http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4.jsp x
Eli
One more article.
Ooops forgot the link
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=146500
Eli
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:29:55 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:27:32 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:24:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 22:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nfs. js px http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4.j sp x
Eli
One more article.
Ooops forgot the link
That one is three years old, and talking about FC6. However, I did check the nfslock status and was told that rpc.statd is running.
The crazysquirrel guides look the most promising of anything I've seen so far. I'll try that out as soon as I've done the more urgent stuff. Thanks for the links
Anne
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:29:55 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:27:32 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:24:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 22:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote: > I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling > that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give > you a clue? > > Martin Kho > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSv4Default
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nf s. js px http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4 .j sp x
Eli
One more article.
Ooops forgot the link
That one is three years old, and talking about FC6. However, I did check the nfslock status and was told that rpc.statd is running.
The crazysquirrel guides look the most promising of anything I've seen so far. I'll try that out as soon as I've done the more urgent stuff. Thanks for the links
Anne
Hi Anne,
Mary Ellen Foster opened a bug report [1] in which she described a read-only problem in combination with sshfs. See the last comment by Caolan McNamara. In her first post she mentioned a discussion on the Openoffice.org forum about a NFS-issue.
May be it can shed a new light on your issue.
Martin Kho
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 12:05:39 Martin Kho wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:29:55 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:27:32 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over- nf s. js px http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nf s4 .j sp x
Eli
One more article.
Ooops forgot the link
That one is three years old, and talking about FC6. However, I did check the nfslock status and was told that rpc.statd is running.
The crazysquirrel guides look the most promising of anything I've seen so far. I'll try that out as soon as I've done the more urgent stuff. Thanks for the links
Anne
Hi Anne,
Mary Ellen Foster opened a bug report [1] in which she described a read-only problem in combination with sshfs. See the last comment by Caolan McNamara. In her first post she mentioned a discussion on the Openoffice.org forum about a NFS-issue.
May be it can shed a new light on your issue.
Martin Kho
The symptoms do sound similar. However, as you'll have seen in my reply to Eli, the combination of the crazysquirrel pages above and http://fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/nfsv4-fedora got me changed over to nfs4, and the problem is solved. I can now open, edit and save the files without a problems.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 05:24:15 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 22:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
Martin Kho
Anne
Brilliant question Martin. Here are a couple of articles relating to work arounds to that problem.
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nfs.jspx http://pts.szit.bme.hu/solution_to_openoffice_nfs_locking.html
And here is a guide to properly configure NFSv4
http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/setting-up-nfs4.jspx
I got almost to the end of the nfs4 setup, then felt unsure. Then I found
http://www.fedorasolved.org/post-install-solutions/nfsv4-fedora
The combination of those two pages have got me sorted (apart from a minor glitch, where a mount is not exactly what I had in mind - but I can sort that later, as the files are still accessible). I hope others will find these two pages as good as I did.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Anne
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 20:58:32 Martin Kho wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010 06:24:56 pm Martin Kho wrote:
I'm not using nfs, but I say a Fedora wiki-page [1] telling that in F13 NFSv4 will be the default. May be this can give you a clue?
Martin Kho
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Hi,
If you only can't edit Openoffice.org files, can it be a locking related problem?
No, the same files can be edited on the other laptop.
Anne
2010/4/27 Anne Wilson cannewilson@googlemail.com:
Just realised - this can't be the cause. If it was, I'd not be able to edit any files on that mount, and so far the only ones I've found that I can't edit are those concerned with OpenOffice.
Sounds like a variant of this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531750
(I did see further down the thread that you'd sorted this out, of course ...)
MEF
Reply to All / Reply to List On Friday 23 April 2010 12:04:27 Anne Wilson wrote:
I mount a data directory on my server in fstab, using
192.168.0.40:/Data1 /mnt/server_Data1 nfs nosuid,exec,rw,bg,soft,intr 0 0
I then display it in a folderview, and of course it's accessible in dolphin. I've been used to quickly opening files from the folderview, and editing them. However, on this F13 laptop I can't do that (nor from Dolphin). It offers me read-only, saying I'm an unknown user. The same files can be edited on the old laptop.
Correction:-
The message says it is open for editing by an unknown user. It isn't. And I don't get that message when I edit it from the older laptop.
Anne