On Thursday, August 07, 2014 01:46:41 PM Reindl Harald wrote:

just disable HTML mail

There are HTML settings in Settings>Configure Kmail>Security>Reading. I am not sure if that also affects composition/sending emails.

I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML otherwise most emails would turn out to be block of html code and pictures with block- icon.

Am 07.08.2014 um 14:21 schrieb Sudhir Khanger:

On Thursday, August 07, 2014 01:46:41 PM Reindl Harald wrote:

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just disable HTML mail

There are HTML settings in Settings>Configure Kmail>Security>Reading. I am not sure if that also affects composition/sending emails.

I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML otherwise most emails would turn out to be block of html code and pictures with block- icon

nobody talks about *show* HTML i talk about the preferred format for composite mail

in thunderbird it's just "mail.html_compose false" and if you want to write a HTML message press SHIFT while click at the compose cion

On Thursday, August 07, 2014 03:50:15 PM Timothy Murphy wrote:

I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested.

I agree. I have the same settings in Gmail. It shows html messages and uses plain text for sending.

I am sure Dan will reply soon with an answer.

On 08/07/2014 12:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 15:50 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:

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I find it pretty hard to use an Email client which doesn't show HTML otherwise most emails would turn out to be block of html code and

pictures

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with block- icon.

I agree. I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, if properly configured.

I have found no setting in KMail that prevents HTML in outgoing email. If anyone knows where, or how, this can be turned off (even if it turns off HTML when reading email) I should be very grateful.

Evolution does it, as I'm sure do most other MUAs. I'd be very surprised if Kmail didn't also allow it. That would be reason enough to dump Kmail for something else.

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I'm wondering if it could conceivably have something to do with KWrite, which seems to be the default KMail editor? (I couldn't find the KMail Handbook, if it exists?)

A quick look indicates that you can use an internal composer rather than Kwrite (look under Settings). I've no idea if this gets you plain text.

poc

In the compose window make sure the rich text button is clicked off. Although just testing sending with the button clicked on but without underlining/bolding/italicizing anything still sends as plain text for me.

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On 08/07/2014 02:50 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Patrick Boutilier wrote:

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I would like an email client that can _show_ HTML, but does not using it in _sending_ email unless requested. I have been assuming that KMail is such a client, if properly configured.

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In the compose window make sure the rich text button is clicked off. Although just testing sending with the button clicked on but without underlining/bolding/italicizing anything still sends as plain text for me.

Thanks for your response.

However, in Configure KMail=>Compose I don't see a "rich text button", and "rich text" does not seem to be mentioned in the Help page (Composer Page).

The only references to HTML in the Compose window are: Reply or forward using HTML if present (which is not ticked); and Improve plain text version of HTML message (which is ticked).

I should say that I am running KMail: 4.13.3 under Fedora-20.

Not in Settings but in the actual compose window itself.

On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 20:33 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Not really relevant now, but I found it impossible to use an External Editor in place of KWrite. If I choose /usr/bin/vim or /usr/bin/nano it says the editor is opened, but I am unable to enter any text in the email body.

It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are both console-based. Just a guess as I gave up on Kmail years ago.

poc

On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:49 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote:

On Friday, August 08, 2014 12:04:23 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

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It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are both console-based.

There is GVim. A quick search also shows one could use some wrapper script to load Vim in Konsole.

I didn't know about this feature. Writing emails in plain text in Emacs is just awesome. I need to figure out how to launch a client of Emacs with necessary modes.

It's a long time since I've done it but you can also use Emacs itself as a mail client, IIRC with MH-E or MULE modes (and possibly others).

poc

On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:49:58AM +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote:

On Friday, August 08, 2014 12:04:23 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

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It may expect the editor to be an X program, whereas vim and nano are both console-based.

There is GVim. A quick search also shows one could use some wrapper script to load Vim in Konsole.

I didn't know about this feature. Writing emails in plain text in Emacs is just awesome. I need to figure out how to launch a client of Emacs with necessary modes.

for Xemacs I use gnuclient, the modes can be set by eg guessing based on temporary file name. I use mutt though.

Richard

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