... since I'm not going to be there, due to an unavoidable conflict.
Sorry folks, but as of right now, we didn't have any pending tickets, so it would have been a short meeting. :)
Lets just meet again on Nov 23, or, if something urgent comes up in the interim, feel free to meet without me (assuming that you have quorum).
~tom
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... since I'm not going to be there, due to an unavoidable conflict.
Sorry folks, but as of right now, we didn't have any pending tickets, so it would have been a short meeting. :)
Lets just meet again on Nov 23, or, if something urgent comes up in the interim, feel free to meet without me (assuming that you have quorum).
Just this:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/116
I'll be there if anyone wants to meet.
Spot, do you have a vote in the even this works out?
-J
~tom
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On 11/14/2011 03:39 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
... since I'm not going to be there, due to an unavoidable conflict.
Sorry folks, but as of right now, we didn't have any pending tickets, so it would have been a short meeting. :)
Lets just meet again on Nov 23, or, if something urgent comes up in the interim, feel free to meet without me (assuming that you have quorum).
Just this:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/116
I'll be there if anyone wants to meet.
Spot, do you have a vote in the even this works out?
Yeah, I'm +1 on that Should.
~tom
== Fedora Project
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 03:25:25PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
... since I'm not going to be there, due to an unavoidable conflict.
Sorry folks, but as of right now, we didn't have any pending tickets, so it would have been a short meeting. :)
Lets just meet again on Nov 23, or, if something urgent comes up in the interim, feel free to meet without me (assuming that you have quorum).
Note -- there is potentially a big question -- fesco voted on UsrMove today +4,-4 leaving in the bin => sbin merge that we said was contrary to Guidelines.
notting voted on the fesco ticket in such a way that it's unclear whether he was +1 or -1 to the feature as written.
If notting can reply before the FPC meeting, I've asked nirik to open up an FPC ticket for whether we'll reject that as written as we did in the preliminary look.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
-Toshio
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 14:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 03:25:25PM -0500, Tom Callaway wrote:
... since I'm not going to be there, due to an unavoidable conflict.
Sorry folks, but as of right now, we didn't have any pending tickets, so it would have been a short meeting. :)
Lets just meet again on Nov 23, or, if something urgent comes up in the interim, feel free to meet without me (assuming that you have quorum).
Note -- there is potentially a big question -- fesco voted on UsrMove today +4,-4 leaving in the bin => sbin merge that we said was contrary to Guidelines.
* #690 F17 Feature: move all to /usr https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove (nirik, 18:19:50) * ACTION: : -4 votes, +4 votes, feature owners will consult with remaining fesco member in ticket. (nirik, 18:41:38) * ACTION: nirik to file FPC ticket for looking over things vs guidelines. (nirik, 18:41:55)
...so this seems it's all up in the air, right? Is there any reason we can't/shouldn't wait for next week, given that it isn't approved?
notting voted on the fesco ticket in such a way that it's unclear whether he was +1 or -1 to the feature as written.
Would it pass with +5/-4 ?
If notting can reply before the FPC meeting, I've asked nirik to open up an FPC ticket for whether we'll reject that as written as we did in the preliminary look.
Also ... if FESCO passes it as-is ... what would we reject? Just the sbin changes? Can we do that?
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:25:18 -0500 James Antill james@fedoraproject.org wrote:
...so this seems it's all up in the air, right? Is there any reason we can't/shouldn't wait for next week, given that it isn't approved?
Well, looking at it sooner rather than later might be nice for the feature owners. I asked them to not do anything until things are all set for scope.
notting voted on the fesco ticket in such a way that it's unclear whether he was +1 or -1 to the feature as written.
Would it pass with +5/-4 ?
Yes. FESCo uses simple majority.
If notting can reply before the FPC meeting, I've asked nirik to open up an FPC ticket for whether we'll reject that as written as we did in the preliminary look.
Also ... if FESCO passes it as-is ... what would we reject? Just the sbin changes? Can we do that?
I'd rather avoid the 'who can override who' discussion. ;)
Speaking for myself (a member of fesco) but not fesco, I would really like to hear from FPC those parts that they feel are not in Fedora's best interests. FESCo empowered the FPC to handle those issues, so IMHO, we should let FPC review and let us know what parts we should drop from the scope or re-work.
I would hope that FESCo would see those concerns and ask the feature owners to adjust their feature to match.
kevin
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:25:18 -0500 James Antill james@fedoraproject.org wrote:
...so this seems it's all up in the air, right? Is there any reason we can't/shouldn't wait for next week, given that it isn't approved?
Well, looking at it sooner rather than later might be nice for the feature owners. I asked them to not do anything until things are all set for scope.
notting voted on the fesco ticket in such a way that it's unclear whether he was +1 or -1 to the feature as written.
Would it pass with +5/-4 ?
Yes. FESCo uses simple majority.
If notting can reply before the FPC meeting, I've asked nirik to open up an FPC ticket for whether we'll reject that as written as we did in the preliminary look.
Also ... if FESCO passes it as-is ... what would we reject? Just the sbin changes? Can we do that?
I'd rather avoid the 'who can override who' discussion. ;)
Speaking for myself (a member of fesco) but not fesco, I would really like to hear from FPC those parts that they feel are not in Fedora's best interests. FESCo empowered the FPC to handle those issues, so IMHO, we should let FPC review and let us know what parts we should drop from the scope or re-work.
I would hope that FESCo would see those concerns and ask the feature owners to adjust their feature to match.
I may or may not make the meeting due to $_DAYJOB.
-J
kevin
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 09:01:47AM -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:25:18 -0500 James Antill james@fedoraproject.org wrote:
...so this seems it's all up in the air, right? Is there any reason we can't/shouldn't wait for next week, given that it isn't approved?
Well, looking at it sooner rather than later might be nice for the feature owners. I asked them to not do anything until things are all set for scope.
notting voted on the fesco ticket in such a way that it's unclear whether he was +1 or -1 to the feature as written.
Would it pass with +5/-4 ?
Yes. FESCo uses simple majority.
If notting can reply before the FPC meeting, I've asked nirik to open up an FPC ticket for whether we'll reject that as written as we did in the preliminary look.
Also ... if FESCO passes it as-is ... what would we reject? Just the sbin changes? Can we do that?
I'd rather avoid the 'who can override who' discussion. ;)
Speaking for myself (a member of fesco) but not fesco, I would really like to hear from FPC those parts that they feel are not in Fedora's best interests. FESCo empowered the FPC to handle those issues, so IMHO, we should let FPC review and let us know what parts we should drop from the scope or re-work.
I would hope that FESCo would see those concerns and ask the feature owners to adjust their feature to match.
I may or may not make the meeting due to $_DAYJOB.
Looks like the last vote for the fesco ticket has not happened. So we don't have a large outstanding ticket to take care of.
-Toshio
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