packaging June 2017

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Fixing wrong Bootstrapping part in Guidelines
by Jun Aruga 23 Oct '18

23 Oct '18

Dear Packagers who are using Boostrapping logic for the cyclical dependency Need your help to fix wrong Bootstrapping part in Guidelines. This mail is long. Sorry for that in advance. You may be building the cyclical dependency packages by using a variable such as _with_bootstrap, need_bootstrap, bootstrap, enable_test, and etc.. For example, you may build with below ways for that, if you will use mock command. ``` $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --with=bootstrap *.src.rpm => _with_bootstrap can be used as --with=bootstrap $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define '_with_bootstrap 1' *.src.rpm $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define 'need_bootstrap 1' *.src.rpm $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define 'enable_test 1' *.src.rpm ... ``` Here is a document page to unify the Bootstrap logic. You may know it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Bootstrapping However I found that below part in the page is wrong. ``` %{!?_with_bootstrap: %global bootstrap 1} ``` Because .. If _with_bootstrap is not set from outside, bootstrap is 1 => bootstrap is True/Enabled if _with_bootstrap is set as 1 from outside, bootstrap's value is not set. => the value is empty if it is not declared in advance. It's a kind of 0. bootstrap is False/Disabled. This situation is opposite meaning of "_with_bootstrap". Below way not using negative operator `!?` is correct. ``` %{?_with_bootstrap: %global bootstrap 1} ``` The reason why I wrote this here is I found that had already been reported 2 years ago for packaging committee, however it was closed without fixing. https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/509 I am not sure that why it is not admitted. You may feel that it does not matter because you may edit the Bootstrapping logic in the RPM spec file manually. But in my case, I am one of the people who use the Bootsrapping logic actively. There are 89 RPM packages that constitutes Ruby on Rails 5.0. To build Ruby on Rails 5.0 completely from scratch, I have to build the packages total 103 times considering bootstrap. I am trying to build those packages automatically by a tool [1] with a configuration file [2] for Ruby on Rails. It is important to fix it due to that. Fortunately today another guy Vit created new ticket for that. So, if YOU like this proposal, please comment in below page of the ticket or reply here. It is helpful for us to move this huge rock. I really want to fix it. "I like it." comment please. => https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/684 Thank you for your help. [1] https://github.com/sclorg/rpm-list-builder [2] https://github.com/sclorg/rhscl-rebuild-recipes/blob/master/ror.yml Kind regards, Jun Aruga

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2017-06-28 17:00 - 17:55 UTC)
by James Antill 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

====================== #fedora-meeting-2: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:13:18 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-06-28/fpc.2017-06-2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:13:19) * Schedule (geppetto, 17:16:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting (geppetto, 17:17:02) * #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies (geppetto, 17:19:38) * First problem is that we should warn people that the trick of using Excludearch in a noarch package only works when you have no subpackages. (geppetto, 17:24:04) * Second problem is a koji change means we need other changes. (geppetto, 17:24:44) * ACTION: We need to ask someone in releng what policy should be and then write a draft (geppetto, 17:27:06) * #693 Wiki:Packaging:RPMMacros (geppetto, 17:28:43) * ACTION: tibbs try to leave out definitions for things we know will change, or aren't something which anyone should care about (geppetto, 17:44:20) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:44:37) * ACTION: geppetto Change calendar/etc. for new meeting times. (geppetto, 17:56:50) Meeting ended at 17:56:57 UTC. Action Items ------------ * We need to ask someone in releng what policy should be and then write a draft * tibbs try to leave out definitions for things we know will change, or aren't something which anyone should care about * geppetto Change calendar/etc. for new meeting times. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * geppetto * geppetto Change calendar/etc. for new meeting times. * tibbs * tibbs try to leave out definitions for things we know will change, or aren't something which anyone should care about * **UNASSIGNED** * We need to ask someone in releng what policy should be and then write a draft People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (59) * tibbs (52) * limburgher (16) * zodbot (11) * Rathann (9) * orionp (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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New meeting times, alternate weeks of Wed/Thu
by James Antill 27 Jun '17

27 Jun '17

So here are the full results of when is good: http://whenisgood.net/4kkmgdf/results/9yq4ter ...as you can see, there isn't a time that is good for everybody. The top three are: Mon 13:00 EDT / 17:00 UTC - racor Wed 13:00 EDT / 17:00 UTC - racor Tue 13:00 EDT / 17:00 UTC - racor + rathann Thu 13:00 EDT / 17:00 UTC - racor + rathann Tue 12:00 EDT / 16:00 UTC - rathann + thomas + xavier Wed 12:00 EDT / 16:00 UTC - rathann + thomas + xavier Thu 12:00 EDT / 16:00 UTC - rathann + thomas + xavier Mon 14:00 EDT / 18:00 UTC - racor + orion + mbooth Tue 14:00 EDT / 18:00 UTC - racor + orion + mbooth Wed 14:00 EDT / 18:00 UTC - racor + orion + mbooth Thu 14:00 EDT / 18:00 UTC - racor + orion + mbooth Mon/Tue/Wed 15/16 EDT - racor + mbooth + thomas ...so one suggestion is that to make sure everyone can attend, and have it as close to now as possible we'd do alternate weeks of: Wed 13:00 EDT / 17:00 UTC Thu 12:00 EDT / 16:00 UTC - rathann + thomas + xavier ...so the next two meetings would be: ================= Day: Wednesday ================= 2017-06-28 10:00 PDT US/Pacific 2017-06-28 13:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2017-06-28 17:00 UTC UTC 2017-06-28 18:00 BST Europe/London 2017-06-28 19:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2017-06-28 19:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2017-06-28 22:30 IST Asia/Calcutta --------------- New Day: Thursday ---------------- 2017-06-29 01:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2017-06-29 01:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2017-06-29 02:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2017-06-29 03:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2017-07-06 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2017-07-06 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2017-07-06 16:00 UTC UTC 2017-07-06 17:00 BST Europe/London 2017-07-06 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2017-07-06 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2017-07-06 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2017-07-07 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2017-07-07 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2017-07-07 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2017-07-07 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane ...if anyone thinks this is a terrible idea, speak up now.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2017-06-22 16:00 - 17:45 UTC)
by James Antill 22 Jun '17

22 Jun '17

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:54 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-06-22/fpc.2017-06-2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:54) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:06:08) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedoraproject… (geppetto, 16:06:09) * #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies (geppetto, 16:06:19) * #692 Requesting clarification on static/bundling guidelines (geppetto, 16:20:09) * Everyone agrees wording applies to static linking to other packages, not within your package build (geppetto, 16:32:11) * ACTION: Change wording from "need approval from committee" to "SHOULD NOT" (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:35:55) * #693 Wiki:Packaging:RPMMacros (geppetto, 16:36:15) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Macros is the section of the guidelines I'm talking about. (tibbs, 16:45:04) * Everyone mostly agrees we need to get this out of packaging, and probably delete a bunch of data so it'll maybe help people (geppetto, 17:05:31) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:28:12) * LINK: http://whenisgood.net/4kkmgdf/results/9yq4ter (geppetto, 17:28:43) Meeting ended at 17:49:24 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Change wording from "need approval from committee" to "SHOULD NOT" (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Change wording from "need approval from committee" to "SHOULD NOT" (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs (89) * geppetto (78) * limburgher (29) * racor (21) * Rathann (17) * zodbot (13) * orionp (4) * mbooth (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2017-06-22 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 22 Jun '17

22 Jun '17

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2017-06-22 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2017-06-22 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2017-06-22 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2017-06-22 16:00 UTC UTC 2017-06-22 17:00 BST Europe/London 2017-06-22 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2017-06-22 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2017-06-22 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2017-06-23 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2017-06-23 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2017-06-23 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2017-06-23 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting = New business = #topic #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies .fpc 691 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/691 #topic #692 Requesting clarification on static/bundling guidelines .fpc 692 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/692 #topic #693 Wiki:Packaging:RPMMacros .fpc 693 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/693 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2017-06-15 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 15 Jun '17

15 Jun '17

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2017-06-15 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2017-06-15 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2017-06-15 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2017-06-15 16:00 UTC UTC 2017-06-15 17:00 BST Europe/London 2017-06-15 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2017-06-15 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2017-06-15 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2017-06-16 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2017-06-16 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2017-06-16 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2017-06-16 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting [Ed. note, this is intentionally blank there is currently an empty schedule] = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2017-06-08 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 07 Jun '17

07 Jun '17

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2017-06-08 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2017-06-08 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2017-06-08 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2017-06-08 16:00 UTC UTC 2017-06-08 17:00 BST Europe/London 2017-06-08 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2017-06-08 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2017-06-08 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2017-06-09 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2017-06-09 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2017-06-09 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2017-06-09 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting = Followups = #topic #687 Repository config/COPr policy conflicts with FESCo policy .fpc 687 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/687 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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It is legitimate to refer to a third-party repository
by Martin Gansser 02 Jun '17

02 Jun '17

I am working on a package review of nuvola-app-amazon-cloud-player [1] It is legitimate to refer to a 3rd party repository i.e. # https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-adobe-flash-player-10-o… Recommends: flash-plugin [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1455886 Thanks for any response.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (YYYY-MM-DD 16:00 - 17:20 UTC)
by James Antill 02 Jun '17

02 Jun '17

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2017-06-01/fpc.2017- 06-01-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:22) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:06:37) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/TT6KQ3IRSEJACK4VI6KDX3GPXLUXR4IH/ (geppetto, 16:06:40) * #686 Avoid using names with `python-` prefix in requires (geppetto, 16:06:48) * ACTION: Avoid using names with `python-` prefix in requires for Python packages (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:14:06) * #687 Repository config/COPr policy conflicts with FESCo policy (geppetto, 16:14:24) * ACTION: Repository config/COPR policy conflicts with FESCo policy (+1:4, 0:0, -1:1) (geppetto, 16:39:59) * #688 Council banned weak fwd deps to third party repos (geppetto, 16:46:04) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:05:14) Meeting ended at 17:18:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Avoid using names with `python-` prefix in requires for Python packages (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * Repository config/COPR policy conflicts with FESCo policy (+1:4, 0:0, -1:1) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Avoid using names with `python-` prefix in requires for Python packages (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * Repository config/COPR policy conflicts with FESCo policy (+1:4, 0:0, -1:1) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs (96) * geppetto (89) * limburgher (47) * racor (38) * mbooth (11) * zodbot (11) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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