Dear all,
Recently, i'm writing a benchmark between APT and YUM, by default i didn't know yum and know apt, i didn't find the following status in the yum: ////////////////////////////////////// PACKAGE STATES not-installed The package is not installed on your system.
config-files Only the configuration files of the package exist on the system.
half-installed The installation of the package has been started, but not completed for some reason.
unpacked The package is unpacked, but not configured.
half-configured The package is unpacked and configuration has been started, but not yet completed for some reason.
triggers-awaited The package awaits trigger processing by another package.
triggers-pending The package has been triggered.
installed The package is unpacked and configured OK.
//////////////////////////////////////////////
Where can i find above feature or yum doesn't has them?
--mohsen
installed feature I think it's already existed.
"yum list installed"
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:47:29AM +0330, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
not-installed The package is not installed on your system.
`yum list` will show this. There are a number of options which you can find in the man pages.
config-files Only the configuration files of the package exist on the system. half-installed The installation of the package has been started, but not completed for some reason.
These don't exist because of differences between the underlying rpm and dpkg systems. You can tell if files are missing from a package with the yum verify plugin (install package yum-plugin-verify, and then look at the man page for yum-verify).
unpacked The package is unpacked, but not configured. half-configured The package is unpacked and configuration has been started, but not yet completed for some reason.
These concepts don't really exist in RPM.
triggers-awaited The package awaits trigger processing by another package. triggers-pending The package has been triggered.
RPM does have triggers, but it's rather esoteric. I don't think there are any yum plugins that expose this, but you can look more under the hood with `rpm -q packagename triggers`.
Dear Matthew and Christopher,
At first, sorrry for late, and thank you for your reply and your attention. In Debian systems: Directory /var/lib/apt/ keeps cache of repos, then users can search offline with apt-cache search blahblah , What's this scenario in yum system? and Where the given directory ?
--mohsen On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 23:13 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:47:29AM +0330, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
not-installed The package is not installed on your system.`yum list` will show this. There are a number of options which you can find in the man pages.
config-files Only the configuration files of the package exist on the system. half-installed The installation of the package has been started, but not completed for some reason.These don't exist because of differences between the underlying rpm and dpkg systems. You can tell if files are missing from a package with the yum verify plugin (install package yum-plugin-verify, and then look at the man page for yum-verify).
unpacked The package is unpacked, but not configured. half-configured The package is unpacked and configuration has been started, but not yet completed for some reason.These concepts don't really exist in RPM.
triggers-awaited The package awaits trigger processing by another package. triggers-pending The package has been triggered.RPM does have triggers, but it's rather esoteric. I don't think there are any yum plugins that expose this, but you can look more under the hood with `rpm -q packagename triggers`.
On 10/06/2012 12:40 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
Dear Matthew and Christopher,
At first, sorrry for late, and thank you for your reply and your attention. In Debian systems: Directory /var/lib/apt/ keeps cache of repos, then users can search offline with apt-cache search blahblah , What's this scenario in yum system? and Where the given directory ?
/var/cache/yum
Use yum -C or yum --cacheonly
-- rex
Dear all,
I have more question on comparison of YUM and APT: 1) in apt systems, /var/lib/dpkg/status exists and keeps information about installed packages such as marked as remove and etc, what's its equivalent in yum systems? 2) in apt systems, /var/cache/apt/archives keeps *deb files as temporarily, What's its equivalent in yum systems? 3) apt-cache command search on local cache about a package such as 'apt-cache search MY_PACKAGE', now can i do it with yum systems? if true which command? 4) apt-get has -f (--fixed-broken), yum does has it? such as 'apt-get -f install' ? when you use 'apt-get -f install' or 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade' APT system resolve installed packages and solve any problem. 5) in apt systems at first we use 'apt-get update' to download information of packages.Then they are cached in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , What's equivalent of apt-get update and /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? 6) We use 'apt-cdrom add' to add cdrom repo to my machine, What's its equivalent in yum? 7) --purge and -e is different in dpkg or apt-get purge or apt-get reomve, Do you have same concept in yum?(remove doesn't remove information in status file, but purge remove them) 8) we have apt-file command that it search on repo and get a file as arg and returns package names that arg exist in them.Do you have in yum? 9) /var/lib/dpkg/available : list of installed packages.
--thank you, Mohsen
On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 06:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
On 10/06/2012 12:40 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
Dear Matthew and Christopher,
At first, sorrry for late, and thank you for your reply and your attention. In Debian systems: Directory /var/lib/apt/ keeps cache of repos, then users can search offline with apt-cache search blahblah , What's this scenario in yum system? and Where the given directory ?
/var/cache/yum
Use yum -C or yum --cacheonly
-- rex
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Hi
I don't think this is right place, the best you can do is check rpm docs at rpm.org (very extensive docs a and books) If you want to be a packager - you have to check Fedora packaging guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
But I'll answer you anyway:
At first, you have to understand and separate backend and frontend:
rpm, dpkg - package manager backends and libraries for operating on DB populated with current situation, not the repos yum, apt - package manager frontends with databases related to repository and upgrade operations
Do not confuse yum/apt with rpm/dpkg.
RPM is using sqlite database populated in /var/lib/rpm/, you should never operate on it directly. rpm, rpm libraries and yum utilities provide interface for you to manage packages, there is no reason to touch DB manually.
1) RPM doesn't use plaintext database 2) /var/cache/yum/ 3) yum search MY_PACKAGE (will update cache), or yum search -C MY_PACKAGE (run entirely from system cache, don't update cache) 4) --skip-broken skips broken packages, dependencies are always solved automatically 5) yum update, usually cache is always update, unless -C is specified. /var/lib/yum, /var/cache/yum 6) yum doesn't operate on it's own configuration files, yum will need to create repo file in /etc/yum/repos.d as xxx.repo like: [somerepo] name=cdrom files baseurl=file:///mnt/cdrom * *7) Doesn't need it actually, this is handled by rpm backend. rpm leaves any changed (checked with md5) configuration files with .rpmsave filename extension. rpm knows which files are configuration files. 8) yum whatprovides "/path/file" 9) rpm -qa
Best regards, George Machitidze
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh < mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org> wrote:
Dear all,
I have more question on comparison of YUM and APT:
- in apt systems, /var/lib/dpkg/status exists and keeps information
about installed packages such as marked as remove and etc, what's its equivalent in yum systems? 2) in apt systems, /var/cache/apt/archives keeps *deb files as temporarily, What's its equivalent in yum systems? 3) apt-cache command search on local cache about a package such as 'apt-cache search MY_PACKAGE', now can i do it with yum systems? if true which command? 4) apt-get has -f (--fixed-broken), yum does has it? such as 'apt-get -f install' ? when you use 'apt-get -f install' or 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade' APT system resolve installed packages and solve any problem. 5) in apt systems at first we use 'apt-get update' to download information of packages.Then they are cached in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , What's equivalent of apt-get update and /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? 6) We use 'apt-cdrom add' to add cdrom repo to my machine, What's its equivalent in yum? 7) --purge and -e is different in dpkg or apt-get purge or apt-get reomve, Do you have same concept in yum?(remove doesn't remove information in status file, but purge remove them) 8) we have apt-file command that it search on repo and get a file as arg and returns package names that arg exist in them.Do you have in yum? 9) /var/lib/dpkg/available : list of installed packages.
--thank you, Mohsen
On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 06:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
On 10/06/2012 12:40 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
Dear Matthew and Christopher,
At first, sorrry for late, and thank you for your reply and your attention. In Debian systems: Directory /var/lib/apt/ keeps cache of repos, then users can search offline with apt-cache search blahblah , What's this scenario in yum system? and Where the given directory ?
/var/cache/yum
Use yum -C or yum --cacheonly
-- rex
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-- packaging mailing list packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging
p.s. sorry for this "I don't think this is right place" - I've mixed up mailing lists, ask anything :))
Best regards, George Machitidze
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:35 AM, George Machitidze giomac@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I don't think this is right place, the best you can do is check rpm docs at rpm.org (very extensive docs a and books) If you want to be a packager - you have to check Fedora packaging guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
But I'll answer you anyway:
At first, you have to understand and separate backend and frontend:
rpm, dpkg - package manager backends and libraries for operating on DB populated with current situation, not the repos yum, apt - package manager frontends with databases related to repository and upgrade operations
Do not confuse yum/apt with rpm/dpkg.
RPM is using sqlite database populated in /var/lib/rpm/, you should never operate on it directly. rpm, rpm libraries and yum utilities provide interface for you to manage packages, there is no reason to touch DB manually.
- RPM doesn't use plaintext database
- /var/cache/yum/
- yum search MY_PACKAGE (will update cache), or yum search -C MY_PACKAGE
(run entirely from system cache, don't update cache) 4) --skip-broken skips broken packages, dependencies are always solved automatically 5) yum update, usually cache is always update, unless -C is specified. /var/lib/yum, /var/cache/yum 6) yum doesn't operate on it's own configuration files, yum will need to create repo file in /etc/yum/repos.d as xxx.repo like: [somerepo] name=cdrom files baseurl=file:///mnt/cdrom
*7) Doesn't need it actually, this is handled by rpm backend. rpm leaves any changed (checked with md5) configuration files with .rpmsave filename extension. rpm knows which files are configuration files. 8) yum whatprovides "/path/file" 9) rpm -qa
Best regards, George Machitidze
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh < mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org> wrote:
Dear all,
I have more question on comparison of YUM and APT:
- in apt systems, /var/lib/dpkg/status exists and keeps information
about installed packages such as marked as remove and etc, what's its equivalent in yum systems? 2) in apt systems, /var/cache/apt/archives keeps *deb files as temporarily, What's its equivalent in yum systems? 3) apt-cache command search on local cache about a package such as 'apt-cache search MY_PACKAGE', now can i do it with yum systems? if true which command? 4) apt-get has -f (--fixed-broken), yum does has it? such as 'apt-get -f install' ? when you use 'apt-get -f install' or 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade' APT system resolve installed packages and solve any problem. 5) in apt systems at first we use 'apt-get update' to download information of packages.Then they are cached in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , What's equivalent of apt-get update and /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? 6) We use 'apt-cdrom add' to add cdrom repo to my machine, What's its equivalent in yum? 7) --purge and -e is different in dpkg or apt-get purge or apt-get reomve, Do you have same concept in yum?(remove doesn't remove information in status file, but purge remove them) 8) we have apt-file command that it search on repo and get a file as arg and returns package names that arg exist in them.Do you have in yum? 9) /var/lib/dpkg/available : list of installed packages.
--thank you, Mohsen
On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 06:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
On 10/06/2012 12:40 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
Dear Matthew and Christopher,
At first, sorrry for late, and thank you for your reply and your attention. In Debian systems: Directory /var/lib/apt/ keeps cache of repos, then users can search offline with apt-cache search blahblah , What's this scenario in yum system? and Where the given directory ?
/var/cache/yum
Use yum -C or yum --cacheonly
-- rex
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Dear George,
Very very thank you...
--mohsen On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 04:35 +0400, George Machitidze wrote:
Hi
I don't think this is right place, the best you can do is check rpm docs at rpm.org (very extensive docs a and books) If you want to be a packager - you have to check Fedora packaging guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
But I'll answer you anyway:
At first, you have to understand and separate backend and frontend:
rpm, dpkg - package manager backends and libraries for operating on DB populated with current situation, not the repos yum, apt - package manager frontends with databases related to repository and upgrade operations
Do not confuse yum/apt with rpm/dpkg.
RPM is using sqlite database populated in /var/lib/rpm/, you should never operate on it directly. rpm, rpm libraries and yum utilities provide interface for you to manage packages, there is no reason to touch DB manually.
- RPM doesn't use plaintext database
- /var/cache/yum/
- yum search MY_PACKAGE (will update cache), or yum search -C
MY_PACKAGE (run entirely from system cache, don't update cache) 4) --skip-broken skips broken packages, dependencies are always solved automatically 5) yum update, usually cache is always update, unless -C is specified. /var/lib/yum, /var/cache/yum 6) yum doesn't operate on it's own configuration files, yum will need to create repo file in /etc/yum/repos.d as xxx.repo like: [somerepo] name=cdrom files baseurl=file:///mnt/cdrom
- Doesn't need it actually, this is handled by rpm backend. rpm
leaves any changed (checked with md5) configuration files with .rpmsave filename extension. rpm knows which files are configuration files. 8) yum whatprovides "/path/file" 9) rpm -qa
Best regards, George Machitidze
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh mohsen@pahlevanzadeh.org wrote: Dear all,
I have more question on comparison of YUM and APT: 1) in apt systems, /var/lib/dpkg/status exists and keeps information about installed packages such as marked as remove and etc, what's its equivalent in yum systems? 2) in apt systems, /var/cache/apt/archives keeps *deb files as temporarily, What's its equivalent in yum systems? 3) apt-cache command search on local cache about a package such as 'apt-cache search MY_PACKAGE', now can i do it with yum systems? if true which command? 4) apt-get has -f (--fixed-broken), yum does has it? such as 'apt-get -f install' ? when you use 'apt-get -f install' or 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade' APT system resolve installed packages and solve any problem. 5) in apt systems at first we use 'apt-get update' to download information of packages.Then they are cached in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , What's equivalent of apt-get update and /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? 6) We use 'apt-cdrom add' to add cdrom repo to my machine, What's its equivalent in yum? 7) --purge and -e is different in dpkg or apt-get purge or apt-get reomve, Do you have same concept in yum?(remove doesn't remove information in status file, but purge remove them) 8) we have apt-file command that it search on repo and get a file as arg and returns package names that arg exist in them.Do you have in yum? 9) /var/lib/dpkg/available : list of installed packages. --thank you, Mohsen On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 06:54 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > On 10/06/2012 12:40 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: > > Dear Matthew and Christopher, > > > > At first, sorrry for late, and thank you for your reply and your > > attention. > > In Debian systems: > > Directory /var/lib/apt/ keeps cache of repos, then users can search > > offline with apt-cache search blahblah , What's this scenario in yum > > system? and Where the given directory ? > > /var/cache/yum > > Use > yum -C > or > yum --cacheonly > > -- rex > > -- > packaging mailing list > packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging -- packaging mailing list packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging-- packaging mailing list packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging
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