Greetings.
I'm looking at the supybot-gribble package (under review). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693664
Currently it Conflicts: supybot. It's not really falling under any of the current cases on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts but I think it might be another case to add next to compat packages.
Background:
supybot is a irc bot written in python. It's already in Fedora. Development is very slow. Currently many of the database functions in it don't work because they still haven't switched from sqlite1 for example. We also have several plugins that use it.
supybot-gribble is a blessed rapid development fork. Changes here are fast paced and much more current. Once patches here look good and stable they are submitted back to the main supybot branch. It's much like a 'supybot-rawhide' or devel.
The two packages share the name and python tree files. Upstream has no desire to rename things in supybot-gribble as this will make it harder to fold changes back into supybot. There is no great need to run both at the same time on the same machine.
In the review I suggested we just let them conflict and setup the plugins so they would work with either (require /usr/bin/supybot). To me this seems like an acceptable Conflicts case related to the 'compat packages' case, except in this case it's 'newer/rawhide/ng version'.
Thoughts? Flames?
kevin
On 05/07/2011 07:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
I'm looking at the supybot-gribble package (under review). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693664
Currently it Conflicts: supybot. It's not really falling under any of the current cases on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts but I think it might be another case to add next to compat packages.
Background:
supybot is a irc bot written in python. It's already in Fedora. Development is very slow. Currently many of the database functions in it don't work because they still haven't switched from sqlite1 for example. We also have several plugins that use it.
supybot-gribble is a blessed rapid development fork. Changes here are fast paced and much more current. Once patches here look good and stable they are submitted back to the main supybot branch. It's much like a 'supybot-rawhide' or devel.
The two packages share the name and python tree files. Upstream has no desire to rename things in supybot-gribble as this will make it harder to fold changes back into supybot. There is no great need to run both at the same time on the same machine.
In the review I suggested we just let them conflict and setup the plugins so they would work with either (require /usr/bin/supybot). To me this seems like an acceptable Conflicts case related to the 'compat packages' case, except in this case it's 'newer/rawhide/ng version'.
Thoughts? Flames?
Seems sane so I am with you on this one.
Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
On 05/07/2011 07:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
I'm looking at the supybot-gribble package (under review). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693664
Currently it Conflicts: supybot. It's not really falling under any of the current cases on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts but I think it might be another case to add next to compat packages.
Background:
supybot is a irc bot written in python. It's already in Fedora. Development is very slow. Currently many of the database functions in it don't work because they still haven't switched from sqlite1 for example. We also have several plugins that use it.
supybot-gribble is a blessed rapid development fork. Changes here are fast paced and much more current. Once patches here look good and stable they are submitted back to the main supybot branch. It's much like a 'supybot-rawhide' or devel.
The two packages share the name and python tree files. Upstream has no desire to rename things in supybot-gribble as this will make it harder to fold changes back into supybot. There is no great need to run both at the same time on the same machine.
In the review I suggested we just let them conflict and setup the plugins so they would work with either (require /usr/bin/supybot). To me this seems like an acceptable Conflicts case related to the 'compat packages' case, except in this case it's 'newer/rawhide/ng version'.
Thoughts? Flames?
Seems sane so I am with you on this one.
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I am as well, tentatively. My yum-math is weak, if we file-require /usr/bin/supybot, which will get pulled in by default, and is it the one we want, for some value of "we"?
-J
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 10:11:38AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
I'm looking at the supybot-gribble package (under review). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693664
Currently it Conflicts: supybot. It's not really falling under any of the current cases on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts but I think it might be another case to add next to compat packages.
Background:
supybot is a irc bot written in python. It's already in Fedora. Development is very slow. Currently many of the database functions in it don't work because they still haven't switched from sqlite1 for example. We also have several plugins that use it.
supybot-gribble is a blessed rapid development fork. Changes here are fast paced and much more current. Once patches here look good and stable they are submitted back to the main supybot branch. It's much like a 'supybot-rawhide' or devel.
The two packages share the name and python tree files. Upstream has no desire to rename things in supybot-gribble as this will make it harder to fold changes back into supybot. There is no great need to run both at the same time on the same machine.
In the review I suggested we just let them conflict and setup the plugins so they would work with either (require /usr/bin/supybot). To me this seems like an acceptable Conflicts case related to the 'compat packages' case, except in this case it's 'newer/rawhide/ng version'.
Thoughts? Flames?
Alternative: Let's upgrade the supybot package in Fedora to use supybot-gribble instead.
Thoughts on the pros and cons of that vs a conflicting package?
-Toshio
On Mon, 9 May 2011 16:44:53 -0700 Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com wrote:
Alternative: Let's upgrade the supybot package in Fedora to use supybot-gribble instead.
Thoughts on the pros and cons of that vs a conflicting package?
Yeah, we thought about that...
Pros:
- No conflict. - More things work (like the plugins that need sqlite)
Cons:
- Doesn't work on epel5. - Might have breakage from time to time since it's a devel version.
I'd be ok with this approach if we kept supybot in epel5 and if the supybot maintainer is on board. ;)
kevin
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