g11n November 2015

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[Followup] Translation deadline around Beta
by Noriko Mizumoto 13 Sep '16

13 Sep '16

Hi All I have looked through devel team schedule closer, and decided to propose the move of all software translation related events rather than the add another translation deadline, to minimize the impact to devel and Rel-Eng teams. However I only have translator's view and not developer's. If you think this is impossible with some reason, let me know. Also it is much appreciated any input. Thanks noriko

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Zanata asking Fedora users to provide name, userid and email even after FAS openid login
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 03 Jan '16

03 Jan '16

Hi All, $subject. Two problems: 1. There is chance of FAS user can create account with different username and it will affect our plan to connect with FedBus and generate stats. 2. Was talking with CLA agreement with Zanata guys earlier. They said rather than they work on signing agreement from users, they want user simply sign CLA of different project i.e. Fedora, OepnStack and they will simply connect users to respective project portal. In this case no need to sign other terms of Zanata (please correct me here if i am wrong). I mean just user can simply log in and start work. Most of you might have seen it earlier. I thought its possible to get rid of this and created ticket against Fedora Infra. [1] Looks like there is method/way already. Will be very nice if we can improvement it. Will be very nice if Zanata team works with puiterwijk and fix it soon. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4947

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my summary report of G11N FAD Tokyo 2015
by Noriko Mizumoto 16 Dec '15

16 Dec '15

Hi As all we know, we had successful and memorable first G11N FAD 2015 in Tokyo between 1st to 3rd November. It was already a month ago, but just thought that it might be good to share the summary report what I discussed with others and some achievement for mainly Localization. I also like to attach the overall summary prepared by Jens [1] and the stsatus presentation slide for L10N and FLTG prepared by Ani [2], thanks guys. [DAY 1] We, l10n, fltg, i18n, zanata, all got together and presented the status each other. During hackathon, I have worked and created 'G11N' presentation slide with other members. This will be available on G11N wiki page. In the evening, we also had hangout talk and shared ideas with Cambodian team joining FAD online. [DAY 2] In the morning, we all had hangout talk and shared ideas with Fedora Project Leader, Matthew. As part of hackaton, I have joined the discussion about new FGSCo structure proposal to strengthen our team as one G11N. Then I joined the hackathon of recent zanata survey feedback analysis. It was fun and fruitful dinner gathering at the end. [DAY 3] L10N team and FLTG discussed to determine important packages to localize, giving priority. So that translators can easily find which package to start without asking around. The deprecated packages list has also been updated. In order to achieve this, we had a lot of help from I18N team members as well. I have had proposed 'software deadline change for F24' and discussed with others. We arrived the consensus no-go for this proposal, instead I18N members will start seeking and developing a script to auto-detect string breaks. L10N members will monitor the breaks closer and produce statistics. As future F24 planning, we L10N members aim to hold more local sprints/workshops. [1]:https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZa… [2]:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/12Ffl1fRnLWahtmrvDCWEdgr671doJWjS… Thanks for reading :-) noriko

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Minutes of G11N meeting 2015/11/25
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

Hi All, Not discussed on L10N and Zanata stuff much. Will discuss more in next meeting. Had productive meeting from i18n side with lots of action items. More on me though ;) Here goes minutes ===================== #fedora-meeting: g11n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:42 UTC. The full logs are available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-11-25/g11n.2015-11-2… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25 (pravins, 06:00:57) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:02:18) * 2016-01-12 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes) (pravins, 06:02:18) * not scheduled yet Side Tag Builds Deadline (pravins, 06:02:18) * not required Mass Rebuild (pravins, 06:02:18) * 2016-02-02 Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25) (pravins, 06:02:18) * 2016-02-16 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:02:19) * 2016-02-16 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:02:21) * 2016-02-16 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:02:23) * 2016-02-16 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:02:25) * Outstanding task (pravins, 06:03:46) * #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (anishpatil) (pravins, 06:03:47) * ACTION: anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome. (pravins, 06:09:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756939 (pravins, 06:09:07) * New topics (pravins, 06:09:43) * #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins) (pravins, 06:09:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 06:09:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43#comment:16 (pravins, 06:11:56) * ACTION: All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43 (pravins, 06:13:55) * ACTION: pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports. (pravins, 06:14:11) * paragan expense claim is almost done. (pravins, 06:17:40) * anish_ expense claim approved and moved to Ruth for reimbursement. (pravins, 06:17:58) * mfabian will complete event reports and expense claim today. (pravins, 06:18:45) * No report and expense claims from Ani and Noriko yet. (pravins, 06:19:40) * ACTION: pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day. (pravins, 06:20:37) * #57: Fedora 24 change planing (pravins) (pravins, 06:21:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:21:21) * IDEA: String Breakage monitoring (Jens, Akira) (pravins, 06:22:13) * IDEA: Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core (Fujiwara) (pravins, 06:23:10) * Confusion should it be merged into IBus or simply fork since not active upstream. (pravins, 06:23:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging (pravins, 06:25:37) * ACTION: fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core" (pravins, 06:28:11) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDEL… (pravins, 06:32:04) * IDEA: ibus-typing-booster: AltGr support (mfabian) (pravins, 06:32:29) * IDEA: Pinyin/zhuyin (epico) (pravins, 06:32:39) * IDEA: Automation of langpack LiveCD ( paragan ) (pravins, 06:33:17) * IDEA: PoC of NextGen G11n workflow (Jens/Zanata?) (pravins, 06:33:21) * IDEA: ITS for Gnome ( ueno ) (pravins, 06:33:46) * LINK: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-October/msg00013.ht… (pravins, 06:37:28) * IDEA: Automatic testing ( tagoh___) (pravins, 06:37:51) * IDEA: Description support of the configuration in fontconfig ( tagoh___) (pravins, 06:38:07) * ACTION: paragan to create ticket for Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status. (pravins, 06:41:43) * ACTION: pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24. (pravins, 06:43:20) * #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins) (pravins, 06:45:33) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/58 (pravins, 06:45:34) * All open bugs are available on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25 (pravins, 06:47:22) * Rawhide bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.… (pravins, 06:48:23) * Fedora 23 bugs https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.… (pravins, 06:49:04) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.… (pravins, 06:49:13) * ACTION: Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle. (pravins, 06:50:49) * ACTION: pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24. (pravins, 06:53:43) * #56: Fedora 21 EOL Bugs traiging (pravins ) (pravins, 06:53:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/56 (pravins, 06:53:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=OP&f2=assign… (pravins, 06:54:47) * ACTION: pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs (pravins, 07:00:34) * ACTION: paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. (pravins, 07:01:13) * #15: Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website (pravins, 07:01:38) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/g11n/ticket/15 (pravins, 07:01:38) * ACTION: resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting. (pravins, 07:04:51) * Open Floor (pravins, 07:05:02) Meeting ended at 07:09:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome. * All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43 * pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports. * pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day. * fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core" * paragan to create ticket for Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24. * Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle. * pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * anish_ * anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome. * epico * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * fujiwarat * fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core" * paragan * paragan to create ticket for Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status. * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * pravins * pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports. * pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24. * pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs * ueno * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * **UNASSIGNED** * All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43 * Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle. * resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (144) * zodbot (8) * anish_ (8) * paragan (6) * mfabian (3) * fujiwarat (3) * ueno (2) * epico (2) * suanand (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Reminder: G11N meeting tomorrow - 2015/11/25 06:00 UTC
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hi All, We have scheduled weekly g11n meeting tomorrow. [1] This one is again for i18n side but feel free to bring L10N and Zanata related topics. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25

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Need volunteer to host Wed. (18th Nov) G11N meeting
by Pravin Satpute 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

Hi, I am away this Wednesday. We have most important topic to discuss that is Fedora 24 planning. We have already ideas drafted in FAD summary document. [1] Second one is going through open tickets [2] and third is G11N FAD leftovers. I will be back on Thursday and will answer reply any queries questions raised. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDEL… 2. https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/report/1

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Meeting minutes for G11N (i18n focused) meeting today.
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 11 Nov '15

11 Nov '15

Hi All, We had bit lengthy meeting today. Minutes are as follow ===================== #fedora-meeting: g11n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:42 UTC. The full logs are available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-11-11/g11n.2015-11-1… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-11 (pravins, 06:00:56) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:06:07) * 2016-01-12 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes) (pravins, 06:06:14) * not scheduled yet Side Tag Builds Deadline (pravins, 06:06:14) * not required Mass Rebuild (pravins, 06:06:14) * 2016-02-02 Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25) (pravins, 06:06:14) * 2016-02-16 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:06:14) * 2016-02-16 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:06:15) * 2016-02-16 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:06:17) * 2016-02-16 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:06:19) * New topics (pravins, 06:09:15) * #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins) (pravins, 06:09:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 06:09:24) * LINK: http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2015/11/globalization-fad-2nd-day-report.html (pravins, 06:12:47) * ACTION: pravins to open shared document for creating post for Community blog of Fedora. (pravins, 06:16:26) * #57: Fedora 24 change planing (pravins) (pravins, 06:22:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:22:19) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDEL… (pravins, 06:23:11) * IDEA: String Breakage monitoring (Jens, Akira) (pravins, 06:24:38) * IDEA: Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core (Fujiwara) (pravins, 06:30:34) * IDEA: fork ibus-fbterm (pravins, 07:03:40) * IDEA: fork ibus-fbterm and fbterm into one package. (pravins, 07:03:52) * #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins) (pravins, 07:07:21) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 07:07:21) * New tasks (pravins, 07:14:24) * #56: Fedora 21 EOL Bugs traiging (pravins) (pravins, 07:14:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/56 (pravins, 07:14:24) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=OP&f2=assign… (pravins, 07:16:02) * Open Floor (pravins, 07:17:56) * pravins not available for next week G11N meeting. Need someone to host it. (pravins, 07:20:46) Meeting ended at 07:22:43 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pravins to open shared document for creating post for Community blog of Fedora. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pravins * pravins to open shared document for creating post for Community blog of Fedora. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (127) * juhp (44) * fujiwarat (13) * zodbot (8) * tagoh_ (5) * mkim (5) * epico (5) * ueno (1) * praiskup (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Regards, Pravin Satpute

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Reminder: G11N meeting tomorrow - 2015/11/11 06:00 UTC
by Pravin Satpute 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

Hi All, We have scheduled weekly g11n meeting tomorrow. This meeting is more focused on i18n side. Agenda page [1] Feel free to add/suggest missing topic. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-11

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internal product training
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 10 Nov '15

10 Nov '15

Below is some information from Andy Karandikar in Singapore about internal product training that I know various people in G11n teams have been asking for. The courses may not be completely up to date with the latest product versions but at least they should give an understanding of our growing portfolio. I think the Skills Exchange at least requires an account to be generated, which might need manager approval say - I haven't actually tried yet. Jens ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andy Karandikar <andyk(a)redhat.com> Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:56 PM Subject: Internal enablement Here are the links that I mentioned last week: Red Hat Skills Exchange: https://url.corp.redhat.com/rhse Sales & SA Course Catalog: https://engineering.redhat.com/pnt/b-90732/Course_Catalog If there is an account/access challenge, please open a ticket with servicedesk. -- Jens Petersen Supervisor, Software Engineering Globalization (i18n), CEE Osaka

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Fedora Globalization FAD first day report
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 04 Nov '15

04 Nov '15

Hi All, For members who wanted to be part of this FAD but not able to do it. Brief Report for day 1 <http://fedoramagazine.org/globalization-test-days-report-fedora-23/>. Regards, Pravin Satpute

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