g11n February 2016

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Proposal: Fedora G11N Steering Committee
by Pravin Satpute 23 Jun '20

23 Jun '20

Hi All, I am sure, most of the people working with Fedora I18N, L10N from 5-6 year must be aware regarding Fedora L10N Steering Committee. [1] As far as i know this committee was active around 2009 and very effective. During Fedora G11N activity day discussions, we again felt there is need for some kind of official committee to drive Fedora Globalization activities. Fedora is growing faster with number of different domains and G11N also need to adapt those changes quickly to remain on the track. For this purpose and in line with [1], we were thinking of Fedora Globalization steering committee. I have created initial proposal for it. [2] Its open for feedback, please feel free to share other active members, discuss in your respective language groups. This is just initial proposal and i am sure, we can improve and make it more effective with active participation. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Steering_Committee?rd=L10N/SteeringComm… 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_G11N_Steering_Committee_Proposal

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[Followup] Translation deadline around Beta
by Noriko Mizumoto 13 Sep '16

13 Sep '16

Hi All I have looked through devel team schedule closer, and decided to propose the move of all software translation related events rather than the add another translation deadline, to minimize the impact to devel and Rel-Eng teams. However I only have translator's view and not developer's. If you think this is impossible with some reason, let me know. Also it is much appreciated any input. Thanks noriko

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Test email !! <EOM>
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 26 Feb '16

26 Feb '16

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Reminder: G11N meeting 2016/02/25 21:00 UTC
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

Hi All, We have discussed multiple time that G11N regular meeting time is not suitable for other regions, specifically for EMEA. Here we go with meeting time bit more friendly to CEST :) We had discussion about this on trans list earlier. [1] Agenda is available at [2], Please feel free to add other topics. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org… 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25

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Re: Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 24 Feb '16

24 Feb '16

On 22 February 2016 at 19:40, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pravin, > > I can do it between 3PM UTC and 10PM UTC during weekdays, as well as > mornings or evenings in the weekends. > Nice. Lets do it on 25th Feb 2016, 2100 UTC. So 7am BNE and 2am for IST. I have created agenda page. [1] Please add more points. Thanks, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2016-02-25 > > Unfortunately, that means there's no way to fit a US timezone without > trying it on a Saturday maybe. > > Jobava > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com < > pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jobava, >> >> You have started this thread at perfect moment. We are having bi-weekly >> G11N meeting focused on Translation+Zanata. We missed last >> Traslation+Zanata meeting and must have one this week. We have lots of >> topics. few are.. >> 1. Fedora 24 test days >> 2. Translation badges >> 3. Topics specific to priority translations. >> 4. Zanata login stuff >> >> On 22 February 2016 at 15:24, Baadur Jobava <jobaval10n(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your replies so far. Would one of these meetings work at >>> maybe 4PM UTC, which is 5PM Central-Europe (6PM for me), 8PM India and 12PM >>> Japan? This is unworkable for US people, so maybe a separate timeframe for >>> EU-US. >>> >> >> Agree with you. We need to find suitable time for EU-US so more >> contributors can join. Since its either bi-weekly or monthly will try our >> best to join :) Or even if we are not there we can follow logs and comment >> on list :) >> >> Sat/Sun may be difficult. Please select any time on Wed/Thu/Fri suitable >> for EU-US and update here on list for this week. Will join it. >> >> >>> >>> There could also be an Ambassador or Participation-related aspect to >>> L10n, which I see is not yet being pushed in the Fedora communities. >>> Translation is also a lower barrier to entry and can be a tool for >>> onboarding people and getting them to have an impact directly and visibly. >>> >> >> +1 >> >> Regards, >> Pravin Satpute >> >> 1. http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2174003,30,100,12&h=2174003 >> >> >>> >>> Jobava >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste < >>> jean-baptiste(a)holcroft.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Le 21/02/2016 15:49, Noriko Mizumoto a écrit : >>>> >>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:35, Baadur Jobava wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your reply, Noriko! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea >>>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How much >>>>>>> level of demand exist? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing to do may be to mass-email people who contributed on Zanata >>>>>> (or even the old Transifex contributors) to get them on board. I >>>>>> suspect >>>>>> many of them have no idea and have no communication channel to the >>>>>> rest >>>>>> of the community. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All Fedora translators are basically required to take 'join' steps, >>>>> which includes subscription of this trans at list ML and any local >>>>> mailing list, just like you :-) >>>>> >>>>> Therefore any of translators, who used to contribute in Transifex as >>>>> Fedora Localization team, who moved from Transifex to Zanata, and who >>>>> joined as new recently, all should receive this mail posted in trans at >>>>> lists. >>>>> >>>>> There are #fedora-l10n channel and #fedora-g11n channel on freenode. We >>>>> might be living in smaller world than we imagine? hehehe >>>>> >>>>> noriko >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jobava >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Noriko Mizumoto >>>>>> <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto:noriko@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016年02月22日 00:15, Baadur Jobava wrote: >>>>>> > I also sent this message to the list g11n at >>>>>> lists.fedoraproject.org <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>>>> > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> but the message is still >>>>>> waiting >>>>>> > moderator approval. I am posting the same message here. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is expected to be auto-approved, there might be something >>>>>> wrong in >>>>>> system?! I added Patrick, Infra team to have closer look. >>>>>> >>>>>> > --------- >>>>>> > Dear Fedora g11-ers, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU >>>>>> time, or >>>>>> > times not accessible easily (middle of week morning). Is it >>>>>> possible to >>>>>> > have some meetings in on a (Saturday/Sunday morning) OR >>>>>> (evenings) UTC-wise. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you so much for raising this point! >>>>>> This is one of our most concerns. We were trying to find good >>>>>> time but >>>>>> could not hear much suggestion from emea area. >>>>>> I myself like to come up and join the meeting when the time >>>>>> suits you, >>>>>> and know many of us are feeling same. Please name the day and >>>>>> the time >>>>>> (in UTC), so we can start from there (and give adjustment if >>>>>> needed). >>>>>> >>>>>> This is my personal preference but like to reserve my Sat/Sun >>>>>> for my >>>>>> family. But majority like, I will join. >>>>>> >>>>>> > Thanks! >>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If having these meetings is too difficult, then I suggest we >>>>>> have a g11n >>>>>> > section to the EMEA meetings and advertise those meetings on >>>>>> the >>>>>> > g11n/trans mailing lists. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is good idea too, so that translators can discuss only emea >>>>>> specific matter if any. Please count me in if this happens. How >>>>>> much >>>>>> level of demand exist? >>>>>> >>>>>> noriko >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thanks again. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Jobava >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > trans mailing list >>>>>> > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto: >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- >>>>>> trans mailing list >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto: >>>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> trans mailing list >>>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> No problems for me to try a new schedule to see if there is more >>>> contributors. >>>> >>>> Do you have an idea of specific EMEA subjects or subjects you would >>>> like to discuss about and can't at the moment ? >>>> >>>> "mass email people who contributed on Zanata" can be a good idea to >>>> annonce a particular test day, but I'm not sure about doing that for an IRC >>>> meeting. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> -- >>>> Jean-Baptiste Holcroft >>>> -- >>>> trans mailing list >>>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> trans mailing list >>> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> trans mailing list >> trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >> > > > -- > trans mailing list > trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org >

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Can we also have g11n meetings at EU-friendly times?
by Baadur Jobava 23 Feb '16

23 Feb '16

Dear Fedora g11-ers, All the g11 meetings are held during very early morning EU time, or times not accessible easily (middle of week, morning). Is it possible to have some meetings in on a Saturday/Sunday morning or evenings (UTC-wise). Thanks! Jobava

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Minutes of Today (2016/02/17) Internationalization meeting
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 17 Feb '16

17 Feb '16

Hi all, We had good meeting today. Minutes are as follows. ============================ #fedora-meeting: g11n (i18n) ============================ Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-02-17/g11n_(i18n).20… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-17 (pravins, 06:00:39) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:07:23) * 2016-02-23 Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25) (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-08 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:07:24) * 2016-03-22 Alpha Release (pravins, 06:07:26) * #57: Fedora 24 change planning (pravins, 06:09:09) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:09:16) * Glibc_Subpackaging builds are available for Fedora Rawhide, after review from Carlos - mfabian will commit those. (pravins, 06:14:29) * meta-packages langpacks-* are available in rawhide (pravins, 06:18:48) * jibecfed planning to propose article in Fedora Magazine/Community Blog for Status of Translation, Langpacks introduction and how to contribute. (pravins, 06:27:04) * ibus-fbterm_enhancement_for_ibus_1.5 is almost ready. (pravins, 06:30:32) * #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins, 06:30:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/58 (pravins, 06:30:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Fedora_24_G11N_Enhancements (pravins, 06:31:11) * list of Fedora websites not translatable https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites (pravins, 06:38:50) * LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure/issues/34… (jibecfed, 06:42:49) * jibecfed sending email on trans list with more details on Fedora website translation status (pravins, 06:45:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/221 (jibecfed, 06:50:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/221 (pravins, 06:50:35) * #60: Fedora 24 Test day planning (pravins, 06:51:56) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/60 (pravins, 06:51:57) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/480 (pravins, 06:55:34) * IDEA: Separate testday for Glibc locale subpackaging (pravins, 07:01:00) * Planning for test day specifically to test Glibc Locale sub packaging change. (pravins, 07:07:18) * moving i18n test day planning discussion to mailing list. (pravins, 07:12:33) * #61: FTBFS bugs for Rawhide (pravins) (pravins, 07:12:43) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/61 (pravins, 07:12:43) * Open Floor (pravins, 07:15:17) Meeting ended at 07:19:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (140) * jibecfed (39) * juhp (20) * paragan (20) * zodbot (16) * mfabian (9) * mtoh (7) * tagoh_ (3) * fujiwarat (3) * anish_ (1) * epico (1) * suanand (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Regards, Pravin

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Reminder: G11N meeting I18N focused tomorrow At 06:00 UTC
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 16 Feb '16

16 Feb '16

Hi all, We have meeting tomorrow At #fedora-meeting (Freenode). Agenda is available at [1]. Feel free to suggest missing points. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-17

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Fedora 24 L10n Test Day Proposal
by Ani Peter 10 Feb '16

10 Feb '16

Hi, Its time to decide the date for Fedora 24 L10n Test Day!! As per Fedora 24 schedule [1], Alpha Release is on 22nd March and the Software translation deadline falls on 5th April. Can we have the Fedora 24 L10n test day on 29th March (Tuesday) ? We will thus have time to test the ISO for L10n and the test cases. L10n team will have one week time to fix the translations before 5th April. What do you guys think? Thanking you Best regards Ani Peter FLTG Member [1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule

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G11N Meetups at Dev Conf 2016
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 06 Feb '16

06 Feb '16

Hi All, Just met with Noriko and done planning for meetings. Unfortunately Devconf is already packed with number of talks and meetups on 7th. Even meeting rooms are full. We got following slots. * 5th Feb* * Globalization meetup (Mostly on FLTG) side. [1]* - Tme: 01:00 - 2:00pm - Location: Room No: A-8218, DevConf 2016 Venue * 6th Feb* * Localization meetup* [2] - Tme: 4:00-5:30pm - Location: Room No: A-8211, DevConf 2016 Venue Please feel free to suggest agenda and add your name. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetup_DevConf_2016#Globalization_meetup 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetup_DevConf_2016#Localization_meetup

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