Well, I don't know for sure, but if I login to KDE Safe Mode and take a screenshot of the "Activities" settings at the bottom of the screen, this is what I see: http://www.afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_2-Desktop-Screens...

If I take a similar screenshot while logging into a regular KDE session, this is what it looks like: http://www.afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_2-Desktop-Screens...

Activities may have something to do with my problem. But, I tried them a long time ago and decided that I wouldn't ever mess with them again (they just weren't worth what I considered to be all the hassle.) Translation: for quite a while KDE just respected all of my desktop settings. Then, without making any changes, my plasmoids and other desktop settings just started to disappear when I logged out and then back in. Also, I used to be able to reboot and log back into a KDE session that looked like it is suppsed to: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

But today when I rebooted and logged back in, I got this: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

Now, the only way to get my desktop looking like it is supposed to is to login to the KDE Safe Mode...

On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 14:31:01 -0300 Patrick Boutilier boutilpj@ednet.ns.ca wrote:

Your correct desktop doesn't happen to be in a different activity by chance?

On 10/05/2013 02:27 PM, Steven Ulrick wrote:

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Hello, Everyone Lately after I logout of KDE and then log back in, my desktop background is sometimes changed to something that I did NOT have as my background, and all of my Plasmoids are gone...

Here is a screenshot of how my desktop is NOT supposed to look:

http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

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Here is a screenshot of how my desktop is supposed to look:

http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

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I didn't feel like waiting until KDE loaded my desktop correctly, so I rebooted...

This is on Fedora 19. KDE version is 4.11.0. Yes, that's from kde-unstable. If you can help me figure out what is wrong, I can file a bug report.

Well, it did it again today. But this time, the plasmoids, desktop background & other settings were gone AFTER logging in after a reboot... Rebooting used to be how I got all of that back...

But I tried something new. I logged out, and then logged back in the KDE "Safe Session" Doing that, my desktop looked just like it is supposed to: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

Unfortuately, when I log out of the safe session, and back into a regular KDE session, it looks like this again: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

If you need any information that I am not providing, just let me know and I will get that to you.

Steven P. Ulrick

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On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 19:54:26 +0200 Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:

Am 05.10.2013 19:27, schrieb Steven Ulrick:

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This is on Fedora 19. KDE version is 4.11.0. Yes, that's from kde-unstable. If you can help me figure out what is wrong, I can file a bug report.

Well, it did it again today. But this time, the plasmoids, desktop background & other settings were gone AFTER logging in after a reboot... Rebooting used to be how I got all of that back...

But I tried something new. I logged out, and then logged back in the KDE "Safe Session" Doing that, my desktop looked just like it is supposed to: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

Unfortuately, when I log out of the safe session, and back into a regular KDE session, it looks like this again: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

If you need any information that I am not providing, just let me know and I will get that to you

i had the same crap with the first 4.10 releases

it happens in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc which is by stupidity rewritten randomly and there is some race-condition where after the current settings new ones with defaults are added with a higher ID, it's easy to fix and exit the desktop with STRG+ALT+BACKSPACE (some smart guy in the past decided that you have to enable this shortcut somewhere -> Google)

IMHO it is a *terrible* design mistake rewrite configurations if nothing has changed

I checked the contents of "~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc" and it appears to contain all the plasmoids/settings that I WANT to load when I log into KDE. So, how it appears to me is that KDE is not overwriting my plasma-desktop-appletsrc file, but it is just choosing to not LOAD it.

I wonder if there is a way to log out of KDE, and force KDE to read "~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc" instead of whatever it is doing now...

On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 20:04:38 +0200 Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:

Am 05.10.2013 20:02, schrieb Steven P. Ulrick:

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Unfortuately, when I log out of the safe session, and back into a regular KDE session, it looks like this again: http://afolkey2.us/gallery3/index.php/Assorted/KDE4_11_00-Desktop-Screenshot...

If you need any information that I am not providing, just let me know and I will get that to you

i had the same crap with the first 4.10 releases

it happens in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc which is by stupidity rewritten randomly and there is some race-condition where after the current settings new ones with defaults are added with a higher ID, it's easy to fix and exit the desktop with STRG+ALT+BACKSPACE (some smart guy in the past decided that you have to enable this shortcut somewhere -> Google)

IMHO it is a *terrible* design mistake rewrite configurations if nothing has changed

I checked the contents of "~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc" and it appears to contain all the plasmoids/settings that I WANT to load when I log into KDE. So, how it appears to me is that KDE is not overwriting my plasma-desktop-appletsrc file, but it is just choosing to not LOAD it

look again and more careful

Yeah, now I see it. My original settings with a whole bunch of junk stuck at the end of the file...

*additionally* it contains unwanted crap which wins with higher ID's look in the archive of this list and you will find the facts too in my posts a few months ago

I shall look at that information again. Thanks for the reminder.

Steven P. Ulrick