council December 2014

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[council] #16: Periodic contributor survey
by fedora-badges 07 Nov '16

07 Nov '16

#16: Periodic contributor survey ---------------------+------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: General | Keywords: ---------------------+------------------- This is a tracking ticket for establishing a process by which we get regular feedback from the Fedora contributor base. This is a companion to https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/1. The desired goals, methodology, and basically everything else are really different between users and contributors it will be better to track them separately. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/16> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Project Board Public Tickets

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[council] #17: Objective proposal: Fedora Flavors Phase 2
by fedora-badges 29 May '15

29 May '15

#17: Objective proposal: Fedora Flavors Phase 2 ------------------------+------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: Objectives | Keywords: ------------------------+------------------- I posted this on [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council- discuss/2014-December/013066.html council-discuss] a few weeks ago and there was a little discussion. Because this is really a continuation of something we've previously agreed to, I think this is straightforward. Since objectives are non-trivial, we should go for the "full +3 with no -1s" consensus, but also, since this has technical components which impact F22 planning -- which is starting now! -- I'd like to have the final decision as soon as possible. = Objective: Fedora Flavors, Second Phase. = Overview: * Take the initial Server/Workstation/Cloud split from Fedora 21 from an experiment into solid production. Increase autonomy from FESCo and improve targetted outreach. Expected Impact: * Increased user base and user satisfaction in targetted areas. Increased contributor community around the targets. Increased ability to adapt to future or expanded targets as needed. Timeframe: * Although we expect the "Fedora flavors" concept to be ongoing, this "second phase" is targetted for the F22 and F23 releases, making it an approximately 12-month objective. That way, this council objective lead slot will be open shortly after Flock 2015. Aspects: - Coordinate Working Groups' development of updated PRDs and changes and features for each release. - Work with FESCo and Fedora Program Manager to develop process whereby flavor-specific Changes are handled primarily at the WG level. - Work with Outreach (marketing, ambassadors, etc.) to identify and plan representation at new conferences specific to the various target audiences. - Plan, coordinate, and schedule release engineering and infrastructure changes in advance of the F22 and F23 alpha releases. - Lay groundwork for possible different release cycles and lifespans. - Tooling and infrastructure for spins and remixes to increase differentiation. # _Note: perhaps this is big enough to be an independent objective of its own, along with better promotion for spins._ - Work with Council and community to develop concrete process for expansion (or possible contraction) of Fedora flavors as identified needs change, working from the product definition previously approved by the Board Metrics: - PRDs updated. Changes filed, changes accepted, changes completed. - Conference reports; user data from those conferences. - User and contributor surveys, and other user and contributor measures - Usability is increased as measured by user testing specific to each target group ---- (My only regret here is that we are not up to Phase Four, for full-on Fedora alliteration.) ---- Additionally, I would like to nominate Stephen Gallagher for the role of Objective Lead. Stephen brought the "three products" idea to Fedora.next, was instrumental in its realization in the F21 release, and, also, tells me that he will have significant time to dedicate to this over the next year. (Please vote on this nomination as a separate +1/-1 along with any +1 votes to the proposal overall.) -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/17> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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[council] #18: decision on reverting start.fpo change
by fedora-badges 27 Apr '15

27 Apr '15

#18: decision on reverting start.fpo change ---------------------+------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: General | Keywords: ---------------------+------------------- See https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council- discuss/2014-November/013049.html We don't have complete project consensus, which is why the Firefox maintainer asked for a council decision. I think, though, that we _do_ have council consensus, at least based on everyone I've heard from. So, the proposal is: > Please revert the Firefox start page to http://start.fedoraproject.org/. Future improvements for usability or other enhancements can be made for the F22 timeframe or beyond, taking both user experience design and other Fedora stakeholders like marketing and outreach into account. Since F21 has already shipped, the urgency has decreased, but assuming this passes, let's get it reset for the next update for for F22 by default in absence of another plan. I'm proposing this as a lazy approval decision (see [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council#Making_Decisions Making Decisions], and since the holidays are upon us, let's make the timeframe for votes be the rest of December. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/18> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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[council] #19: new terminology for cloud/server/workstation
by fedora-badges 27 Apr '15

27 Apr '15

#19: new terminology for cloud/server/workstation -------------------------+------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: Fedora.next | Keywords: -------------------------+------------------- We've been using the term "product" to refer to the different Fedora variants produced and marketed as part of the new (or by now, not so new) Fedora.next plan. This has a number of problems -- we're not actually selling anything, and we don't want to give that impression. And some spins users have expressed that it doesn't carry the meaning that we did intend very well. So, we're looking for something new. I had suggested "flavors", but that has its own problems: it's idiomatic, doesn't translate well, and apparently I'm the only one that likes it. :) So let's find something else. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/19> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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no irc meeting today... (pre-release chaos day instead)
by Matthew Miller 08 Dec '14

08 Dec '14

This would have been the regularly scheduled board meeting. As noted in the charter, the intention is for the Council to _not_ be meeting driven, but I think at least in the beginning, we _do_ want to have regular meetings in order to keep things active and moving. After the f21 release, we'll coordinate to find the best meeting time for the new council members. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Re: [council] #1: Periodic user/contributor survey
by fedora-badges 06 Dec '14

06 Dec '14

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Re: [council] #1: Periodic user/contributor survey
by fedora-badges 06 Dec '14

06 Dec '14

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Re: [council] #1: Periodic user/contributor survey
by fedora-badges 05 Dec '14

05 Dec '14

#1: Periodic user/contributor survey ---------------------+----------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: somebody Status: new | Priority: major Component: General | Resolution: Keywords: | ---------------------+----------------------- Comment (by jwboyer): I have no problems polling our own users with various questions, but I'm not sure it's going to prove to be massively useful. From a high level, it will tell us they use Fedora, they use (maybe) one of the DEs, they install some applications. Great. That tells us they use Fedora. Job done? Now if you get at the root of all these questions with "why do you..." then cool, that might be more useful. It's difficult to do that without having free form answers, and it tends to reduce the number of people willing to actually do the survey because it takes more time. Likely worth doing still, but call me skeptical I guess. Now, probably even more difficult to accomplish, I would love to know why people _don't_ use Fedora. What are we lacking, why are their needs met by $other_distro but not Fedora, etc. But to do that, we need to be asking people that aren't our users and contributors. I think the results would be more useful, but the execution of actually getting the survey to people and having them willing to respond would be more difficult. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/1#comment:19> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets

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Re: [council] #1: Periodic user/contributor survey
by fedora-badges 05 Dec '14

05 Dec '14

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Re: [council] #1: Periodic user/contributor survey
by fedora-badges 05 Dec '14

05 Dec '14

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