council August 2020

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Fedora priorities for RH CPE team -- let's make a list
by Matthew Miller 04 Sep '20

04 Sep '20

Red Hat's Community Platform Engineering Team¹ works on Fedora infrastructure and release engineering as part of Red Hat's overall Linux organization, which runs on a quarterly planning process. Q4 planning is coming up in early September, and CPE leadership has asked for "insights" from the Fedora community as an input into that process. Obviously a lot of that team works directly in Fedora on a day-to-day basis, so this isn't meant to be a low-level work request detail. The request is for a high-level overview of what we as a project care about from RH's contribututions to the project via this team for October, November, and December. This is the start of what I expect will be a new routine — we'll do this again in late November for Q1 2021² and so on. But for now the focus is on Q4. With the datacenter move wrapping up, the auth system replacement hopefully by then successful, etc., what is now most important and most urgent? 1. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 2. Red Hat is now on calendar-year-aligned quarters! -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Team directory docs
by Ben Cotton 01 Sep '20

01 Sep '20

Hi all, I've published the first draft of the docs for the team directory in an attempt to address the questions raised in last week's meeting: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/procedures/team_directory/ This incorporates the high points from the original discussion at the November 2019 face-to-face as well as the pre-Nest virtual face-to-face earlier this month. Does this make the expectations and purpose more clear? (Note that this is not yet linked from anywhere else. That will happen once we're relatively settled with the content) -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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upgrading from Code of Conduct to Code of Ethics
by Daniel Pocock 27 Aug '20

27 Aug '20

I've recently been looking at the Code of Ethics in various professional organizations such as the ACM Code of Ethics[1] Most open source Codes of Conduct, including Fedora[2], are incredibly vague while Codes of Ethics are quite specific about the most compelling issues, such as conflicts of interest. Has there been any discussion about upgrading to something that is more consistent with best practice or why this would not be desirable? My recent blog[3] about challenges in another community makes some very specific comments on how the code of conduct was not fit for purpose when handling criminal accusations against a volunteer. I feel this failed both the accused and any potential victims. The relevant comments are mostly in the concluding paragraphs for those who don't want to read the whole thing. Regards, Daniel 1. https://www.acm.org/code-of-ethics 2. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ 3. https://danielpocock.com/debian-falsified-harassment-claims-appelbaum-expul…

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[2020-08-27] [minutes] Outreach survey, Women's Day, and docs
by Justin W. Flory (he/him) 27 Aug '20

27 Aug '20

Hi all! The D&I Team meeting wrapped up just a while ago. We were fewer in number, but time zones and volunteering are hard. :) Major highlights: * Help out on our docs! We have several tickets ready to new contributors (or old contributors working on docs for the first time) * Need data review on Outreach Team survey for Ambassadors Revamp * Need data review on FWD planning survey Our next check-in is in two weeks on Thursday, 10 September 2020 at 14:00 UTC. https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9784/ Have a great rest of your week. Notes/minutes below. = = = = = Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 15:00:28 2020 UTC. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-27/diversity.202… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-27/diversity.202… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-27/diversity.202… * * * * * ================================================================= #fedora-diversity: Fedora Diversity & Inclusion Team (2020-08-27) ================================================================= Meeting started by jwf at 14:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-27/diversity.202… . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda (jwf, 14:00:30) * (1) Roll call / introductions (jwf, 14:00:35) * (2) Announcements (jwf, 14:00:36) * (3) Action items from last meeting (jwf, 14:00:36) * (4) Tickets (jwf, 14:00:36) * (5) Open floor (jwf, 14:00:36) * Roll call / introductions (jwf, 14:00:50) * Announcements (jwf, 14:05:34) * === "Fedora Community Outreach Revamp: Update!" === (jwf, 14:05:40) * LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-community-outreach-revamp-up… (jwf, 14:05:48) * An update on latest news for the Fedora outreach revamp. There is a ticket on our agenda today related to this. (jwf, 14:06:22) * === "Fedora Council August 2020 meeting" === (jwf, 14:07:01) * LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-council-august-2020-meeting/ (jwf, 14:07:05) * Update from the Fedora Council from pre-Nest discussions. Includes a highlight feature of the Fedora D&I Team. Definitely worth a read this week! (jwf, 14:08:05) * ACTION: jwf Ping Freenode staff about webchat clients getting auto-voice in a channel (jwf, 14:10:07) * Action items from last meeting (jwf, 14:10:20) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/diversity/diversity.2020-08-13-14.0… (jwf, 14:10:40) * [COMPLETE] jwf Open new ticket about D&I Team docs hack sessions once or twice a month (due: 2020-08-17) (jwf, 14:10:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/150 (jwf, 14:11:16) * [COMPLETE] siddharthvipul to request new badges for Virtual FWD 2020 (jwf, 14:11:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/770 (jwf, 14:11:44) * [IN PROGRESS, NEEDS D&I TEAM] siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event (jwf, 14:14:06) * [COMPLETE] jwf Reach out to GNOME D&I folks and co-conspire to schedule a meeting date/time via WhenIsGood (jwf, 14:14:15) * ACTION: jwf Ping GNOMEies in their Rocket.chat to confirm the email / schedule the call (jwf, 14:14:32) * Tickets (jwf, 14:15:11) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&priority=20 (jwf, 14:15:14) * Ticket #153: " Fedora Ambassadors Revamp 2020: Community Survey" (jwf, 14:15:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/153 (jwf, 14:16:05) * IDEA: Outreach to Ambassadors/Join mailing lists is a good idea for feedback too! (jwf, 14:26:09) * Ticket #148: "FWD 2020: Expanding to Fedora + GNOME Women's Day" (jwf, 14:27:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/148 (jwf, 14:28:01) * jwf reached out to Molly de Blanc and Regina Nkemchor Adejo at GNOME to set up a 1 hour chat. Folks active in FWD planning so far were CC'd to the email. jwf is actioned to drop a quick direct message to GNOMEies later to confirm the email and date/time. (jwf, 14:29:32) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/diversity@lists.fedoraproject… (jwf, 14:30:15) * LINK: https://hackmd.io/ovVujqvaS5WnYcGWx9BNYQ (jwf, 14:30:37) * ACTION: jwf Open new ticket about FWD survey questions based on Ashlyn's mailing list post (jwf, 14:34:01) * ACTION: riecatnor Follow up in forthcoming FWD survey ticket with idea about question for topics (jwf, 14:34:19) * ACTION: di-team Review Ashlyn's question draft (https://hackmd.io/ovVujqvaS5WnYcGWx9BNYQ) and share feedback in forthcoming ticket by next meeting in September (jwf, 14:34:53) * ACTION: jwf Add Fedora + GNOME chat to the D&I Team Fedocal with details about our meeting agenda (jwf, 14:39:28) * Tickets #116, 142, 143: various docs tickets (jwf, 14:41:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/116 (jwf, 14:41:44) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/142 (jwf, 14:41:54) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/143 (jwf, 14:42:00) * LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9Hzo5MSmM&list=PL0x39xti0_66-VnwFuVEpS21c… (riecatnor, 14:45:57) * LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9Hzo5MSmM&list=PL0x39xti0_66-VnwFuVEpS21c… (riecatnor, 14:46:19) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/150 (jwf, 14:46:25) * ACTION: jwf Pick a date/time twice a month for D&I docs mentor sessions and add to Fedocal (jwf, 14:49:44) * Open floor (jwf, 14:51:53) * ACTION: jwf give a action to misc (misc, 14:57:52) * ACTION: misc Open a Fedora D&I ticket about "hey guys" auto-reply feature for zodbot and thinking it through (jwf, 14:58:24) Meeting ended at 15:00:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jwf Ping Freenode staff about webchat clients getting auto-voice in a channel * jwf Ping GNOMEies in their Rocket.chat to confirm the email / schedule the call * jwf Open new ticket about FWD survey questions based on Ashlyn's mailing list post * riecatnor Follow up in forthcoming FWD survey ticket with idea about question for topics * di-team Review Ashlyn's question draft (https://hackmd.io/ovVujqvaS5WnYcGWx9BNYQ) and share feedback in forthcoming ticket by next meeting in September * jwf Add Fedora + GNOME chat to the D&I Team Fedocal with details about our meeting agenda * jwf Pick a date/time twice a month for D&I docs mentor sessions and add to Fedocal * jwf give a action to misc * misc Open a Fedora D&I ticket about "hey guys" auto-reply feature for zodbot and thinking it through Action Items, by person ----------------------- * di-team * di-team Review Ashlyn's question draft (https://hackmd.io/ovVujqvaS5WnYcGWx9BNYQ) and share feedback in forthcoming ticket by next meeting in September * jwf * jwf Ping Freenode staff about webchat clients getting auto-voice in a channel * jwf Ping GNOMEies in their Rocket.chat to confirm the email / schedule the call * jwf Open new ticket about FWD survey questions based on Ashlyn's mailing list post * jwf Add Fedora + GNOME chat to the D&I Team Fedocal with details about our meeting agenda * jwf Pick a date/time twice a month for D&I docs mentor sessions and add to Fedocal * jwf give a action to misc * misc * jwf give a action to misc * misc Open a Fedora D&I ticket about "hey guys" auto-reply feature for zodbot and thinking it through * riecatnor * riecatnor Follow up in forthcoming FWD survey ticket with idea about question for topics * zodbot * misc Open a Fedora D&I ticket about "hey guys" auto-reply feature for zodbot and thinking it through * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jwf (182) * riecatnor (24) * zodbot (13) * meskarune (12) * siddharthvipul (8) * misc (7) * ashlyna (5) * tg-fed-di (2) * fm-diversity (1) * di-team (0) * tatica (0) * tatica[m] (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory (he/him) https://jwf.io TZ=America/New_York

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Historical context for Council ticket priorities?
by Ben Cotton 25 Aug '20

25 Aug '20

Hi everyone, Does anyone have historical context for what the Council ticket priorities mean? As I'm going through documenting processes, it seems like the tickets repo is a good thing to document as well. But these priorities are....not clear: * OMG Urgent!!!1 * Needs Review * Next Meeting * Coming Up * Waiting on Assignee * Waiting on Reporter * Waiting on External In particular, I could make a case for any arrangement of "Needs Review", "Next Meeting", and "Coming Up". If someone knows what we meant by these when they were created, that would be a good starting point. I plan on suggesting some changes anyway (priority and status are different axes, and we're treating them the same right now), so if there's no history available then I'll just skip this and work on a proposal for cleaning it up. But if there's some amount of knowledge to document, I'd like to get that written down now and fix it when we get around to changing the priorities. Thanks, BC -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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HEADS UP: Council meeting to #fedora-meeting, date/time remains the same
by Ben Cotton 24 Aug '20

24 Aug '20

Hi everyone, As we discussed in the last meeting, we will move the Council meetings to #fedora-meeting so that we don't have to push FPC to end their meeting right on schedule. The time remains unchanged. Fedocal entries[1] have been updated. [1] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9781/ -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council meeting
by bcotton＠redhat.com 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council meeting on 2020-08-20 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 America/Indiana/Indianapolis At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The primary chair for this meeting (usually the FPgM, FPL, or FCAIC) should reply to this message with this week's agenda. More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings](https://fedoraproject.org/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9781/

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[2020-08-13] [minutes] Docs help, FWD 2020 global, partnering with GNOME
by Justin W. Flory (he/him) 13 Aug '20

13 Aug '20

Hi folks! The D&I Team meeting wrapped up moments ago. We had 11 or 12 people attend today. Thanks everyone who participated today! Major highlights from our meeting: * Help out on our docs! We have several tickets ready to new contributors (or old contributors working on docs for the first time) * Fedora Women's Day 2020 will be a global 3-day event in September featuring content from local organizers and community leaders. * Justin is working with GNOME Engagement/D&I team to schedule a call for figuring out logistics for collaborating. Our next check-in is in two weeks on Thursday, 27 August at 14:00 UTC. Hope to see you there! https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9784/ Hope you all have a great rest of your week. Meeting minutes and links to notes below. = = = = = Meeting ended Thu Aug 13 15:00:50 2020 UTC. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-13/diversity.202… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-13/diversity.202… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-13/diversity.202… * * * * * ================================================================= #fedora-diversity: Fedora Diversity & Inclusion Team (2020-08-13) ================================================================= Meeting started by jwf at 14:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2020-08-13/diversity.202… . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda (jwf, 14:00:17) * (1) Roll call / introductions (jwf, 14:00:22) * (2) Announcements (jwf, 14:00:22) * (3) Action items from last meeting (jwf, 14:00:23) * (4) Tickets (jwf, 14:00:23) * (5) Open floor (jwf, 14:00:23) * Roll call / introductions (jwf, 14:00:29) * Announcements (jwf, 14:03:44) * === "Nest: FWD 2020 planning started" === (jwf, 14:03:49) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w6iNEb3pLCXqSE5qYNxFp5gQMjD8aEsAfB0CQ7N… (jwf, 14:03:54) * We started talking about how to take Fedora Women's Day 2020 virtual. We discussed using Hopin, collaborating with GNOME, and how to support local organizers in a pandemic. (jwf, 14:03:54) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/148 (jwf, 14:03:54) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/149 (jwf, 14:03:54) * HELP: === "Docs: Our docs need love! Consider taking on a docs issue to help the team." === (jwf, 14:03:59) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&tags=type+-+docs (jwf, 14:04:04) * At Nest, jwf led a session on how to edit the D&I Team docs, both from the Pagure web interface and from the command-line. A recording is coming. If you feel comfortable editing our docs, try our your new skills! We have numerous issues open to help improve our docs. (jwf, 14:04:04) * === "Open Source Diversity: First general interest call for a global D&I summit on Friday, 14 Aug @ 18:00 UTC" === (jwf, 14:04:08) * LINK: https://discourse.opensourcediversity.org/t/call-for-interest-global-open-s… (jwf, 14:04:14) * jwf is organizing the organizers for a global open source D&I summit in late 2020/early 2021. There are two calls this month to explore general interest and build an organizing team. Whether you are just interested or want to be hands-on, you are welcome to join! (jwf, 14:04:15) * Action items from last meeting (jwf, 14:07:36) * How This Works: We review past #action items from the last meeting. For each task, we get a quick update on status and move forward. (jwf, 14:08:02) * === [unassigned] "Propose 2-3 metrics we want to collect from local FWD's" === (jwf, 14:08:07) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w6iNEb3pLCXqSE5qYNxFp5gQMjD8aEsAfB0CQ7N… (jwf, 14:08:10) * === [unassigned] "Open Fedora Badges tickets for FWD 2020 Attendee and Speaker badges" === (jwf, 14:08:19) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w6iNEb3pLCXqSE5qYNxFp5gQMjD8aEsAfB0CQ7N… (jwf, 14:08:19) * === [nasirhm] "Draft CommBlog post for FWD 2020 call for organizers" === (jwf, 14:08:27) * LINK: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=9110&preview=1&_ppp=859047955b (jwf, 14:08:28) * === [unassigned] "Create / curate resources on how to effectively use Hopin (for local FWD organizers who wish to use the platform)" === (jwf, 14:08:30) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w6iNEb3pLCXqSE5qYNxFp5gQMjD8aEsAfB0CQ7N… (jwf, 14:08:31) * Tickets (jwf, 14:10:41) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&priority=20 (jwf, 14:10:46) * Fedora D&I docs tickets (jwf, 14:10:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/116 (jwf, 14:10:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/142 (jwf, 14:10:56) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/143 (jwf, 14:10:56) * These three tickets are good first issues for anyone who wants more experience working on the D&I Team docs. #116 is most important and is about sharing correct info about our meetings. #142 and #143 cover event outreach we have done in the past and getting those into our docs. (jwf, 14:11:01) * HELP: The D&I Team needs help on some of our Fedora Docs tickets! https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&priority=20 (jwf, 14:11:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hack_session (jwf, 14:16:51) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hack_session (jwf, 14:17:21) * ACTION: jwf Open new ticket about D&I Team docs hack sessions once or twice a month (due: 2020-08-17) (jwf, 14:20:10) * Ticket #136: "Virtual Fedora Women's Days" (jwf, 14:21:11) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/136 (jwf, 14:21:16) * General ticket for organizing FWD 2020. This ticket is the main ticket and is a little disorganized. We should identify the top tasks to work on in August and break them out into new tickets. (jwf, 14:21:22) * ACTION: siddharthvipul to request new badges for Virtual FWD 2020 (nasirhm, 14:27:15) * Global or regional? Team is unsure if we have bandwidth and time for organizing global events. We have never done that before. Supporting local, smaller events is easier for us to plan with our limited bandwidth/time. (jwf, 14:38:52) * AGREED: Pick a 3-day window in September for FWD, create a poll for figuring out specific dates, use Hopin for a global event featuring content local organizers. (jwf, 14:46:45) * Note: There are a lot of "if's" and open questions about how this will work. We have never done this before! So we will figure out some details as we go, and we will adapt to changes to our plans as best we can. (jwf, 14:47:20) * ACTION: siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event (jwf, 14:51:27) * Ticket #148: "FWD 2020: Expanding to Fedora + GNOME Women's Day" (jwf, 14:51:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/148 (jwf, 14:51:54) * At GNOME GUADEC 2020, Fedora D&I team members attended the GNOME D&I team Birds of a Feather session. The GNOME D&I team wants to get more involved with global diversity events. We mentioned FWD as something we have done for years. The GNOME folks were interested in joining forces with Fedora on this! (jwf, 14:53:58) * At Nest 2020, we discussed for a very short time about collaborating with Regina Nkemchor Adejo about this but did not get far. (jwf, 14:54:28) * ACTION: jwf Reach out to GNOME D&I folks and co-conspire to schedule a meeting date/time via WhenIsGood (jwf, 14:56:44) * We should gather context from GNOME D&I folks in advance of the call (jwf, 14:57:15) * do they want to do a GNOME women's day along side of FWD, OR do they want to participate in FWD? (jwf, 14:57:27) * Open floor (jwf, 14:57:45) Meeting ended at 15:00:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jwf Open new ticket about D&I Team docs hack sessions once or twice a month (due: 2020-08-17) * siddharthvipul to request new badges for Virtual FWD 2020 * siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event * jwf Reach out to GNOME D&I folks and co-conspire to schedule a meeting date/time via WhenIsGood Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ashlyna * siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event * jwf * jwf Open new ticket about D&I Team docs hack sessions once or twice a month (due: 2020-08-17) * jwf Reach out to GNOME D&I folks and co-conspire to schedule a meeting date/time via WhenIsGood * siddharthvipul * siddharthvipul to request new badges for Virtual FWD 2020 * siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jwf (208) * nasirhm (55) * tg-fed-di (54) * zodbot (27) * meskarune (25) * bee2502 (24) * siddharthvipul (15) * riecatnor (11) * ashlyna (5) * nkathole (5) * fm-diversity (2) * tatica[m] (1) * amsharma (0) * di-team (0) * jonatoni (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory (he/him) https://jwf.io TZ=America/New_York

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council meeting
by bcotton＠redhat.com 05 Aug '20

05 Aug '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council meeting on 2020-08-06 from 13:00:00 to 14:00:00 America/Indiana/Indianapolis At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The primary chair for this meeting (usually the FPgM, FPL, or FCAIC) should reply to this message with this week's agenda. More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings](https://fedoraproject.org/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9781/

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