council October 2018

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Proposal: Move Council Discuss List to Discourse
by Matthew Miller 25 Feb '19

25 Feb '19

This list is fairly low traffic, and by nature it is non-technical. I'd like to move it to https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ to see if that can help increase engagement. Is anyone opposed? We can mark this list as "frozen" and move back if the experiment doesn't work out. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Fedora Project and the IBM's acquisition of Redhat
by Jhoanir Torres 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Dear Council, What is your opinion about IBM movement? How can this affect to Fedora Project? Finally, could you please, give a word for the global community. Thanks in advance. -- Jhoanir Torres Fedora Ambassador

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Tickets and Ongoing)
by mattdm＠fedoraproject.org 30 Oct '18

30 Oct '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council (Tickets and Ongoing) on 2018-10-31 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The Fedora Council will hold our regular Tickets and Ongoing meeting at 3:00pm US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' Tickets and Ongoing meetings happen every four weeks. We don't want to be entirely ticket-driven (since that's a reactive process), but this helps keep important issues from slipping through the cracks. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings#Tickets_and_Ongoing_Meetings The primary chair for this meeting (usually the FPgM, FPL, or FCAIC) should reply to this message with this week's agenda. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/5247/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Objectives Updates)
by mattdm＠fedoraproject.org 23 Oct '18

23 Oct '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council (Objectives Updates) on 2018-10-24 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The Fedora Council will hold our regular Objectives Updates meeting at 3:00pm US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' Every four weeks, we will have a check in from the leads current Fedora Objectives. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/objectives.html for more. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/8786/

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New Objective proposal
by Paul Frields 22 Oct '18

22 Oct '18

I've prepared the following page and would be grateful for Council feedback: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Lifecycle_Objective This objective stems from the talk that some folks may have seen me give at Flock in Dresden. Our goal is ultimately to figure out how to effectively deliver a more flexible platform and application/userspace. Some of the improvements we hope to make include those Matthew Miller has talked about frequently, such as faster, iterative delivery. I'd propose myself as the Council liaison/lead. The Objective isn't "here are the <N> simple steps to make this so," but it does aim to get there as an early step in the process (discovery/investigation and proposing solutions). In a rare alignment of the stars, I happen to be able to bring hands to the table to work on this Objective. :-) IOW, it's not a plea for help, although of course we'll be (1) open to collaboration with anyone who wants to pitch in, and (1) transparent to the community on plans and activities (it's Fedora!). Looking forward to your input. -- Paul

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Moving on from Council Engineering role
by Josh Boyer 22 Oct '18

22 Oct '18

Hello Fedora Friends, I believe it's time for me to move on from my current role as the Council Engineering representative. When I resigned from FESCo a bit ago, I thought I could still fulfill this role. Unfortunately, that turns out to not be the case. I cannot in good conscience hold a seat on the Council and be an absentee member. As we look to the future for Fedora, we need someone with more active participation to be present. Fortunately, we have a large set of very competent people that I believe can step into this role without issue. While it is only a suggestion, I would like to nominate Petr Šabata as the new Council Engineering rep. He is more than capable of discussing the technical implications of Modularity and the newly proposed Objective from Paul. The decision will ultimately be up to FESCo and the Council of course. These are important times for Fedora and I'm excited for the future! I will continue to participate as I can and I'm looking forward to seeing the directions we take as a project and as a distribution. It has been an honor to be part of the Fedora Council for the past few years. Thank you to the community for trusting me with that role for so long. josh

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Subproject Report)
by mattdm＠fedoraproject.org 16 Oct '18

16 Oct '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council (Subproject Report) on 2018-10-17 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The Fedora Council will hold our regular Subproject Report meeting this week at 10:00am US/Eastern. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' This is not an IRC meeting; it will be conducted via video chat. (We use meet.jit.si, an open source videoconferencing tool.) This week's primary meeting chair (usually the FPgM, FPL, or FCAIC) will reply to this message with specific information. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/5237/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Open Floor)
by mattdm＠fedoraproject.org 09 Oct '18

09 Oct '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council (Open Floor) on 2018-10-10 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The Fedora Council will hold our regular Open Floor meeting at 12:00pm US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' Open Floor meetings happen every four weeks. They do not have a preset agenda. Instead, we spend the first few minutes of the meeting deciding what topics will be discussed. If attendees — Council members and otherwise — have several topics of general interest, the primary meeting chair (usually the FPL or FCAIC) will put them in order, and after a certain amount of time discussing the first, ask if it's time to move on. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings#Open_Floor_Meetings Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/5229/

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Re: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh
by Máirín Duffy 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

What do you think fellow, design team members? Full disclosure, I brought this up to Matthew yesterday when we were discussing the ticket on converting the logo guidelines to asciidoc. We realized they have to be updated with some of the new stuff we've been working on (Fedora IoT logo, Fedora CoreOS logo, etc). And I complained about how I wish I could update the logo too :-) I think a lot of us have struggled with the inability to do one color and the off-centeredness of the bubble. (And wouldn't an open source font be nice??) ~m Sent from my phone, not an iphone. -------- Original message --------From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7(a)gmail.com> Date: 10/4/18 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh On 10/4/18 5:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Our "freedom + infinity + voice" logo is awesome -- but it also has some > problems: > > * It doesn't work well at small sizes > * It doesn't work at all in a single color > * The "voice" bubble means it's hard to center visually in designs > * The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font > * I'm tired of explaining that it's not Facebook > > As much as I love our "classic" logo, I think it may be time for a refresh. > > It's not just about problems -- as we're getting into Year 15, and five > years (!) of Fedora.next, our editions strategy is drifting away from > "Fedora + logical thing" (like "Fedora Server" or "Fedora Cloud") into more > unique brands like "Fedora CoreOS" or "Fedora Silverblue". As I said at > Flock, the important thing about Fedora to me is the _people_ — I'd like > "Fedora" to be more assocated with the project and the community rather than > our software artifacts. I'd love to have a logo which can work as a > "community umbrella". > > What do you think? > This logic makes sense to me. I'm also open-minded to a 2018 refresh. There should probably be some level of engagement with the Fedora Design Team on this too. It is too bad tattoos aren't as easy to update as Fedora. :) -- Cheers, Justin W. Flory jflory7(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list -- design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to design-team-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproje…

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Re: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh
by Máirín Duffy 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

Hi Onyeibo, It's the Fedora logo itself that has issues. The other logos I mentioned were just something that had to be discussed in updating our logo docs that brought up the topic of changing the Fedora logo. Cheers, ~m On October 5, 2018 3:36:42 AM EDT, Onyeibo Oku <onyeibo(a)schemefusion.com> wrote: >I fail to appreciate the points in this discussion without visuals >Can someone point me to he offending graphics? URLs please? > >Regards >Onyeibo > >On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 22:05 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> What do you think fellow, design team members? >> >> Full disclosure, I brought this up to Matthew yesterday when we were >> discussing the ticket on converting the logo guidelines to asciidoc. >> We realized they have to be updated with some of the new stuff we've >> been working on (Fedora IoT logo, Fedora CoreOS logo, etc). And I >> complained about how I wish I could update the logo too :-) >> >> I think a lot of us have struggled with the inability to do one color >> and the off-centeredness of the bubble. (And wouldn't an open source >> font be nice??) >> >> ~m >> >> >> >> Sent from my phone, not an iphone. >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7(a)gmail.com> >> Date: 10/4/18 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: council-discuss(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> >> Subject: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh >> >> On 10/4/18 5:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> > Our "freedom + infinity + voice" logo is awesome -- but it also has >> some >> > problems: >> > >> > * It doesn't work well at small sizes >> > * It doesn't work at all in a single color >> > * The "voice" bubble means it's hard to center visually in designs >> > * The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font >> > * I'm tired of explaining that it's not Facebook >> > >> > As much as I love our "classic" logo, I think it may be time for a >> refresh. >> > >> > It's not just about problems -- as we're getting into Year 15, and >> five >> > years (!) of Fedora.next, our editions strategy is drifting away >> from >> > "Fedora + logical thing" (like "Fedora Server" or "Fedora Cloud") >> into more >> > unique brands like "Fedora CoreOS" or "Fedora Silverblue". As I >> said at >> > Flock, the important thing about Fedora to me is the _people_ — I'd >> like >> > "Fedora" to be more assocated with the project and the community >> rather than >> > our software artifacts. I'd love to have a logo which can work as a >> > "community umbrella". >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> >> This logic makes sense to me. I'm also open-minded to a 2018 refresh. >> There should probably be some level of engagement with the Fedora >> Design >> Team on this too. >> >> It is too bad tattoos aren't as easy to update as Fedora. :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> design-team mailing list -- design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> design-team-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html >> List Guidelines: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproje… >_______________________________________________ >design-team mailing list -- design-team(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >To unsubscribe send an email to >design-team-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org >Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html >List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >List Archives: >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproje… -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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MOVED to https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tag/council October 2018