council July 2019

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Council hackfest in late CY2019
by Ben Cotton 29 Jul '19

29 Jul '19

Followin up from today's meeting, let's start trying to figure out a Council hackfest toward the end of this year. Matthew has expressed a desire to not have it in October due to personal obligations. I'm also going to have a fairly busy October, so I'd echo that. I'm also going to be busy in September through November covering a teammate's program while he's participating in an temporary assignment. Early December seemed to work well last time. So perhaps the first or second week of December might work again? Alternatively, I suspect many of us will be at DevConf.cz and then FOSDEM, so a central Europe location between those two weekends might work well. Even though it's in calendar 2020, it's still in the same fiscal year (FY2020). The F31 elections, based on the current schedule will end on 6 December. This means we could potentially be holding the meeting as Dennis's term on the Council ends if we do a December meeting. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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Reminder meeting: Council
by Ben Cotton 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

The Fedora Council will hold our regular meeting at 10:00am US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' We will begin with a review of open tickets and then have open floor time for discussion. https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9568/ Topics: * Close out current modularity objective and consider next phase https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/254 * Fedora Project & Nitrokey https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/251 * Require Council candidates to only run for Council https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/255 * Determining oversight of Fedora Social Media accounts https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/265 * "What is Fedora” needs improvement https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/262 -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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New plan for the future of objectives reports (and editions too!)
by Matthew Miller 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

Hi Objective leads, Edition leads, and Council representatives! I’d like to try something new to replace some of our meetings. Every four weeks, the Fedora Council has a meeting devoted to Objectives updates, and in a separate meeting a similar thing for the Engineering and Mindshare sides of the project and the Diversity and Inclusion team. The idea is that this gives these leads the opportunity to share the current status of their work with the Council and the community at-large. However, these meetings are sometimes hard for people to attend and don’t provide updates in a reliable or consumable way. I have asked the FPgM (hi Ben!) to create a repository[1] that leads can use to provide updates. Each Objective and Edition has a file with a “traffic light” status indicator (red, yellow, or green) and the ability to provide status information. I’d like to ask you all to update this file at the end of each week. (That is, every Friday, please.) Nothing complicated: just make sure the color is right for your current status (green: on track, everything is cool; yellow: there’s something that might be a concern and the Council should be aware; red: there’s an active problem and help from the Council is needed). The idea behind this is that you won’t have to think back too far about what has happened. About once a month, Ben will aggregate your status updates into a post on the Community Blog so that we can share this information with the Fedora community. We'd like to have this for the Council Objectives, but also for the official Fedora Editions, and for Mindshare and Engineering overall from the Council representatives for those areas. (I'm posting this to the council list but will also send privately or to area mailing lists because I know it's hard to keep up with all the lists!) We want to make it easy for you to report what is going on in your area and for the community to find it. With this, we’ll be able to publish your current status to docs.fedoraproject.org and the regular Community Blog posts will give a meaningful diff to the community. If you have suggestions for how we can improve this process, please let us know. [1] https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/status_reports -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Fedora and Steam
by Matthew Miller 16 Jul '19

16 Jul '19

So, a lot of people have been asking me about this! Steam, of course, is a a popular platform for gaming, and it runs on Linux. Valve, the company behind it, puts a lot of resources into gaming on Linux (including working on open source video drivers). Until now, they'd explicitly endorsed and supported a specific non-Fedora Linux distro. However, there's been some changes which you can read about in this forum post: https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/1640915206447625383/, which says in part: The Linux landscape has changed dramatically since we released the initial version of Steam for Linux, and as such, we are re-thinking how we want to approach distribution support going forward. There are several distributions on the market today that offer a great gaming desktop experience such as Arch Linux, Manjaro, Pop!_OS, Fedora, and many others. We'll be working closer with many more distribution maintainers in the future. [...] Several people have suggested to me that it'd be awesome for a Fedora offering to be _the_ supported Steam distribution. Or at least, a formally recommended one. I can definitely see the appeal -- although we haven't targetted gamers formally except through the Games spin (which showcases open source gaming), gaming is generally pretty important to the student/academic audience we'd like to reach. But, of course, Steam is a proprietary platform, and gaming comes with the large elephant-in-the-room that is Nvidia. Despite awesomeness from the AMD open source driver recently, and Intel integrated video good enough for a lot of basic gaming, Nvidia still has a near monopoly. I don't have any specific requests or direction from the informal conversations we've had with Valve so far, but I imagine that in order to really make a Fedora edition or spin their official recommendation, they'd want some kind of consideration given to problems that might come up with their proprietary system (or with the Nvidia driver). We've traditionally had bright line here, where while we may provide advice and point to workarounds when there's a problem with popular proprietary software (like Steam games, even -- see this from F26 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F26_bugs), we don't block or slip the release for them. I know this a contentious topic with a lot of different opinions, but let's not let that stop us from talking about it. What _are_ our options here, and what are we willing to do? For example, maybe we would not slip the general release, but would allow a Fedora-branded spin to delay release until some bug is worked out. Or, we could decide that we want to stick to our all-open-source criterion but interested teams could work with Valve to be aware of our release schedule and make sure they're able to test and get things working _before_ we hit release freeze. If it comes to it, maybe we'd allow Fedora editions or spins that want to and which have Steam installed from a third-party repository to warn of potential problems before upgrading. These are just some thoughts, not specific plans.... I can imagine a range of possibilities. In any case, let's talk about the pros and cons here and what we can gain for Fedora and for our open source and free software cause, and what we're able to do within our values to accomplish that. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Tickets and Ongoing)
by mattdm＠fedoraproject.org 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council (Tickets and Ongoing) on 2019-07-10 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The Fedora Council will hold our regular Tickets and Ongoing meeting at 10:00am US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' Tickets and Ongoing meetings happen every four weeks. We don't want to be entirely ticket-driven (since that's a reactive process), but this helps keep important issues from slipping through the cracks. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council_Meetings#Tickets_and_Ongoing_Meetings The primary chair for this meeting (usually the FPgM, FPL, or FCAIC) should reply to this message with this week's agenda. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9458/

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Red Hat, IBM, and Fedora
by Matthew Miller 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

Today marks a new day in the 26-year history of Red Hat. IBM has finalized its acquisition of Red Hat, which will operate as a distinct unit within IBM. What does this mean for Red Hat’s participation in the Fedora Project? In short, nothing. Red Hat will continue to be a champion for open source, just as it always has, and valued projects like Fedora that will continue to play a role in driving innovation in open source technology. IBM is committed to Red Hat’s independence and role in open source software communities. We will continue this work and, as always, we will continue to help upstream projects be successful and contribute to welcoming new members and maintaining the project. In Fedora, our mission, governance, and objectives remain the same. Red Hat associates will continue to contribute to the upstream in the same ways they have been. We will do this together, with the community, as we always have. If you have questions or would like to learn more about today’s news, I encourage you to review the materials below. For any questions not answered here, please feel free to contact us. Red Hat CTO Chris Wright will host an online Q&A session in the coming days where you can ask questions you may have about what the acquisition means for Red Hat and our involvement in open source communities. Details will be announced on the Red Hat blog. * Press release: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisit… * Blog from Chris Wright: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-and-ibm-accelerating-adoption-open-s… * FAQ: https://community.redhat.com/blog/2019/07/faq-for-communities/ Regards, Matthew Miller, Fedora Project Leader Brian Exelbierd, Fedora Community Action and Impact Coordinator -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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future council meeting plan, part two
by Matthew Miller 03 Jul '19

03 Jul '19

The weekly status reports will replace the Objectives meeting and the Mindshare/Engineering/D&I readout meeting. Especially that last one was useful for _me_ to keep up in as the slides-and-jitsi format, but I don't think it was really broadly helpful to the rest of the project (and therefore a lot of work from the representatives going to not much return.) Ben and I were talking and we suggest combining the tickets & ongoing meeting and open floor meetings into one, with about half the time for tickets. We'll have to keep better meeting discipline and watch the clock for each one, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. What do you think? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Council (Objectives Updates)
by mattdm＠fedoraproject.org 02 Jul '19

02 Jul '19

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Council (Objectives Updates) on 2019-07-03 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: The Fedora Council will hold our regular Objectives Updates meeting at 10:00am US/Eastern in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. All are welcome! To convert to your local time, run: date -d 'TZ="US/Eastern" 10am tomorrow' Every four weeks, we will have a check in from the leads current Fedora Objectives. See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/fedora-project/project/objectives.html for more. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9528/

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