kde January 2010

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KDE 'changes' my keyboard
by Martin Kho 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Hi, I have a strange issue. In the BIOS I've set the NumLock to on. During booting it is turned off (huh..), so I have set 'Turn on' 'NumLock on KDE Startup' in KDE. Since KDE 4.3.4, when I wanted to have quotes ('`"...) I needed to type an extra space. Typically a wrong keyboard lay out was chosen!? I Just enabled 'Enable keyboard layouts' in 'Regional & Language' and didn't change anything. This solved the 'quotes-issue', but it turns off the NumLock-light (NumLock- function is still turned on). When I leave all keyboard configurations to the defaults (NumLock: Leave unchanged; Keyboard layouts disabled) the keyboard layout is right when at the console (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F2). Did any one else have seen this strange behavior? Any hints how I can solve this issue? Thanks, Martin Kho

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Clearly a bug, but which package?
by Anne Wilson 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

My router makes regular NTP checks. I wanted to set this laptop to sync with the router, so attempted to activate NTP in SystemSettings. First, I tried setting it to my router's IP. I was asked for the root password, twice, then told that it could not authenticate. While it didn't seem likely that it would affect authentication, I then tried setting it to the Europe ntp pool. Again, I was ask for the root password twice, and again told that it could not authenticate. I assume that there is little I can do about this, but it should be reported - against what? Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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Building kdenetwork and konq-plugins for KDE 4.3.95
by alekcejk＠googlemail.com 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

Hi All, kdenetwork-4.3.95 and konq-plugins-4.3.3 are needs patches for building due to changes in wekitkde. kdenetwork-4.3.95 needs this patches: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1073346 http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1079166 http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1079308 Here scratch build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1940788 konq-plugins-4.3.3 needs this patches: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1063434 http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1064321 http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1079310 This patch http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1056181 also needed but it included in konq-plugins-4.3.3-5.fc13 Scratch build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1940790 Path %{_kde4_appsdir}/webkitpart should be changed to %{_kde4_appsdir}/kwebkitpart in kdenetwork.spec and konq-plugins.spec Alexey Kurov <nucleo(a)fedoraproject.org>

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KNode: problem posting to gmane
by Timothy Murphy 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

When I try to post an article to gmane.comp.version-control.git.user I get the error message "Could not write to file news.gmane.org". I have no problem posting to other gmane newsgroups (like this one), and am told on the Git site that anyone can post to their list through gmane. Can anyone solve this conundrum? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Debug problems
by Anne Wilson 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

Could you please take a look at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223569 ? I can't get a decent backtrace, and it's not clear why. Thanks Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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RFC: Rename KBattleShip and KTron
by Ryan Rix 22 Jan '10

22 Jan '10

Hello all, I'd like to bring up an idea that I and the Fedora KDE SIG hope will be considered for the KDE SC 4.5 timeframe, namely the renaming of KBattleShip and KTron to names that do not conflict with active trademarks on the term "Battleship" (owned by Hasbro games)[1][2] and "Tron" (owned by Disney)[3] Now, as a German based project, I am not sure regarding the respect of US Trademark laws, but in the US this leads to problems for distributions bound to US Trademark laws (for example RHEL and Fedora, both associated with Red Hat, Inc, based in Raleigh, North Carolina; Ubuntu and Canonical are probably bound by them too, but I'm not sure that they respect these specific trademarks) in that we cannot ship applications with these names. For specific agreement with this from Fedora's Legal Team, please see comments 6 and 12 in [1]. Currently, Fedora and RHEL ship custom patches to rename these two applications KSinkShips and KSnakeDuel[4], respectively, but these are a major pain to refactor at each new release, and this is a fairly large patch to maintain. As such, the Fedora KDE team is requesting that the applications be renamed to something that does not possibly conflict with US trademarks on the games the kdegames packages are based on. Thanks everyone, Ryan Rix Fedora KDE Special Interests Group [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481507 [2]: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4003:q2gahm.3.10 [3]: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:uguoai.2.41 ([2] and [3] have various other trademarks owned on both for the implementations of the names and similar uses as we currently have) [4]: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/kdegames/kdegames-4.3.85- trademarks.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com -> ry(a)n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash(a)yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: rrix(a)irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels.

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4.4rc2?
by Gilboa Davara 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

... According to the schedule 4.4rc2 SC was supposed to be out yesterday. * Last minute bug @kde.org? - Gilboa * It should contain two fixes that I'm eagerly waiting...

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KMail Freeze problem - identified and workaround
by Anne Wilson 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

In case you haven't seen it, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219687 so a fix shouldn't be long. It also explains the runaway dbus problem that has been causing me total lockups, I think. Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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[wrap up] Camp KDE 2010
by Ryan Rix 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

hello everyone, Hope everyone is doing well. :) Last weekend I had the chance to visit San Diego, California to attend Camp KDE, the largest KDE event in North America and an awesome chance to meet and connect with KDE developers. You can see my blag posts about it here: http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/campkde-day-1/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/camp-kde-day-1/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/camp-kde-day-1-seriously-i… is-this-time/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/camp-kde-day-2/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/camp-kde-day-3/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/things-i-learned-at-camp- kde-2010/ As the event was a little less of a general convention, and more of an ad-hoc developer meeting, we had no table or booth, and only the chance to talk with a bunch of KDE developers and users, and a bunch of people who were new to Free Software in general. As a result, the posts are a little less "hey here's what we did at the event" but the team building and hanging out that we did in the evening. There was a large KUbuntu and OpenSuSE presence at the event, so getting Fedora and the Fedora KDE SIG some much needed PR was a Good Thing, and I think we were pretty well received at the event. I did however take away a few things which I will go into details on below. Feel free to dissect the post. Media: I'm in possession of a KUbuntu 9.10 CD and an OpenSuSE 11.2 DVD. I've noticed a few things about each. The OpenSuSE DVD is a dual sided DVD with 32 bit packages on one side and 64 bit on another. This was the only image that they shipped, and the fact that it was dual sided was also interesting. I think that in the F13 or F14 time frame, we should look at using DVDs for the Ambassador media. Last I heard, the Desktop team was going to be producing 1gb live images, which wouldn't fit in a CD anyways. If we used a DVD for the primary images, we could ship more software, and have the ability to showcase other spins in the live media (whether it's as a separate squashfs on the image, or as a single image, with GDM having the ability to choose between GNOME, KDE, Moblin, XFCE, etc, even Sugar?) which would, imo, be a Big Win. The Dual Sided-ness is probably a little bit overkill, but still a cool thing to see. The KUbuntu CD(? may have been DVD, don't have it nearby) was packaged in a sleeve that had an extra flap that that primarily keeps the media from sliding out of the sleeve it is stored in. But what I think is even better is that, when you open it up, there is information on the inside, answering common questions... How can I use this CD as a live test? How can I install KUbuntu? What is KUbuntu? What is free software? How is this software available free of charge? etc. Something like this is easy to add to our media, and should be looked at, imo. As it is, if $person picks up a Fedora live image, it's fairly non-certain what they should do with the disk, how they should run it, etc, if they have never used a live media before. It's a little intimidating, I think. A few KDE developers and I spoke with a fellow at the place we stayed at for about a half hour about these sorts of things, and about Free Software in general, and it was a good discussion. However, in many cases, we will not have the chance to engage in such discussion with prospective users, and this can lead to unfortunate cases of users simply picking up the media and not knowing how to use it, or doing something even worse (picking up install media and using it thinking it's live because they don't know any better, or other such things the IRC support channels have seen) Fedora from a KDE developer's point of view: As a whole, the KDE development community represented at Camp KDE has become increasingly impressed with the Fedora distribution as a whole over the last few releases and the KDE SIG's work at creating a "well integrated" KDE distribution. A few were also impressed at the spins.fedoraproject.org redesign, so major props to the design team and everyone else involved in that redesign :) As far as I could tell, there were only one or two folks their running Fedora on their systems, but one of them was a past employee at Mandrive, so we can't be doing that badly ;) [cc'd the KDE SIG list as it has some impact on them too] Best to all, Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com -> ry(a)n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash(a)yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: rrix(a)irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels.

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Re: Klipper - odd behaviour
by Petrus de Calguarium 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

[This won't be threaded properly, because gmane/knode are still not showing posts.] I can also confirm the klipper hang problem. I am not a bigtime klipper user, but it is enabled. When I highlight something and klipper wants to jump in and take over, there generally (always?) is a long, long hang and dolphin (or whatever application I am using) freezes for quite a long time. Then, it unfreezes and 2 klipper menus appear, one underneath the other and slightly higher up than the top one. The menus are identical. I click cancel (I can't remember if I have to cancel both menus, or if cancelling once cancels both, and then all works fine. I haven't tried using a klipper action.

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