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FC14; Vino - can't seem to get it working
by Ron Leach 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

List, good afternoon, Hopefully, I've overlooked something, but cannot think what. Installed F14 on a Samsung NB30 netbook, from the RC2 XFCE CD. 'yum update' last night (it updated nearly 450 programs/libraries). Installed Vino (vino-2.31.91-1.fc14) but cannot log into into the netbook's desktop from another machine. (Had first tried vino-2.32.0-1.fc14 from 'test updates' repository, but when I failed to log into that, reverted to this slightly earlier version which is from the main F14 repository.) Netbook is connected to local network, replies to pings, and can access internet. Firewall set to 'trust' eth0 and wlan0; and tried with firewall both enabled, and disabled. Same result, VNC client reports failure to connect. (VNC client has unrestricted access to the network, and can access all 4 other desktops on the network, without problems.) A different VNC client (Krdc on Debian/KDE) reports 'no server running at that address/port (5900)'. Noticed that, on F13 (on another machine), had to run 'vino-preferences' before a VNC client could log in. Have run 'vino-preferences' on the netbook, allowed 'control of machine', assigned a password, and tried with 'configure network to automatically accept connections' either set, or unset; same results. vino-preferences 'checks connectivity' and sometimes reports (i) 'local network only, using name localhost' (which surprised me because on the other machine using F13 it reports the machine name and its IP address), or (ii) it sometimes says the machine can be accessed using our external, routable, IP address (which it cannot, because that's blocked at a gateway and the internal network is NATted and there are no port-forwards set). Vino doesn't appear in the XFCE 'system services' graphical list. Maybe it isn't running, just as KDE surmised. Could I ask - how should I check if it is running, and is there a specific command to start vino running? (Under F13, it seemed to run after vino-preferences was run.) Thanks for reading this far, grateful for any suggestions. regards, Ron

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F14 RC3: WiFi problem on Samsung netbooks
by Ron Leach 24 Oct '10

24 Oct '10

List, a testing difficulty. Installed F14 RC3 XFCE from the CD-sized image released by Kevin on Sept 30. Netbook is Samsung NB30, and dual boots F14 RC3 or XPhome. WiFi is built-in; there is no physical on/off button for it, but a softkey combination, 'Function key' and F9, switch WiFi off and on in Windows XPhome. Under F14, Network manager does not seem to recognise any WiFi access points and, after adding some, still does not see them to connect to. The 'network icon' in the panel has a 'red cross' against it. I have also tried F13 XFCE spin (live CD) and F13 does not find the wireless system, either. If I connect a wired Ethernet cable, the network connects using the wired system. I wonder if the WiFi module is not switching on, or being switched on? On a different netbook, Acer AspireOne (on which F13 XFCE is installed), while F13 does find the inbuilt wireless system and lights a WiFi LED, the F14 RC3 XFCE liveCD does not find the wireless, and the WiFi LED on the AspireOne does not light. I'll do some more checks of dmesg to see how far F14 gets in finding the WiFi system. Are there other files I should check? regards, Ron

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Fedora 14 final TC1 live images now available for validation!
by Adam Williamson 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

Hey, folks. The live images for F14 TC1 are now available: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1.1/ and the desktop validation results page is up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_14_Final_TC1_Desktop please do go ahead and get the TC1 images and help fill out the desktop validation results! I haven't tested the images myself yet but I'm pretty sure they're not DOA, I'm downloading them for myself right now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Problems with Terminal in F14 Beta
by Nathan Thomas 11 Oct '10

11 Oct '10

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F14 RC3: Bluetooth difficulty on Samsung netbook
by Ron Leach 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

List, good morning, Thanks to Kevin for preparing a CD-sized spin of the beta, now testing F14 RC3 XFCE on a Samsung Netbook NB30. This machine has Bluetooth built in; it's always on, and has no physical button for on or off. The netbook has dual OSs installed, F14-RC3, and XPhome; I think XP reports the Bluetooth system as 'Widcomm'. The F14 installation shows a Bluetooth icon, but always with a red cross against it. The pop-up reports that Bluetooth is on, but it can neither find any devices, nor can any devices find it. The 'properties' item lets you 'turn on Bluetooth' (but it's already on?) but nothing seems to change. F13 XFCE spin (live CD) finds the bluetooth. The Bluetooth icon is shown, without a red cross against it. The popup menu in F13 is much longer, with options such as 'make visible', 'send files ..', 'add new device', etc. Devices can see the NB30, and it can find and connect to devices such as a mobile phone, adding its name to the devices list in the popup menu. I wondered if the Bluetooth manager in F14 is the same version as in F13. Has anyone else experienced success or difficulty with Bluetooth on F14? I'd be very happy to post details of logging files etc, but I need a little guidance which files to look at. Perhaps I could reset and restart the Bluetooth subsystem somehow. regards, Ron

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F14 RC3 WLAN not working; F13 works fine
by Ron Leach 06 Oct '10

06 Oct '10

List, good morning, On Acer AspireOne netbook, F14RC3 beta network manager does not see, or allow connection to, wireless networks that exist. Network icon has a red cross against it. Wireless networks do not show in the network popup. Adding 'connections' via the popup still doesn't let NM 'see' the active WLANs. F13 (Goddard), on the same netbook, sees the networks and connects to them without difficulty. Machine: Acer AspireOne AOA150 WLAN: Atheros AR5001 F14: XFCE live CD, Sept 30 2010 release for CD Updates: 'yum update' run 5 Oct 2010 Here an extract from lspci -v > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) > Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e008 > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 > Memory at 35200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] > Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 > Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit- > Capabilities: [60] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 > Capabilities: [90] MSI-X: Enable- Count=1 Masked- > Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting > Capabilities: [140] Virtual Channel > Kernel driver in use: ath5k > Kernel modules: ath5k This is quite odd, users won't be expecting things that worked on F13 to stop working on F14, so I'd like to help sort out what the problem is. Please let me know what information is needed to pin this down, or whether I should try some other commands. regards, Ron

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Non-default desktop validation testing for F14 final
by Adam Williamson 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

Hi, folks. Just an update on desktop validation testing for F14 final (we'll hit the TC stage next week). I've been chatting to a few people about the idea of having bugs in desktop validation outside of GNOME block releases, and there turn out to be quite a lot of questions involved in terms of how exactly the project as a whole views the various spins and desktops. I'm happy to discuss this in more detail (oh, so much boring detail) if anyone's interested, but the upshot is that basically we're going to have to ask the board for clarification on a few things about the exact status of non-default desktops and spins. In the meantime, given the conclusion, I agreed with others in the release process (QA and releng) that for F14 Final (and we did this for Beta too) we'll consider failures in the desktop validation testing for LXDE and XFCE to be nice-to-have bugs under the new NTH process, rather than blockers. That means we'll take fixes for them through the release freeze, but won't hold the release for them. Failures in desktop validation testing for GNOME and KDE will be considered blockers. Once we have the wider questions sorted out one way or another, we'll take another look at the status of failures in LXDE and XFCE, and any other desktops/spins we extend validation testing to for F15 (I'm looking at Sugar and Meego for that time). But for now, just a heads-up that we'll be treating XFCE/LXDE validation issues as nice-to-have for Final. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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mixer
by Kevin Fenzi 03 Oct '10

03 Oct '10

Greetings. We have currently no mixer available in the default Xfce panel. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=636227 Bug 636227: medium, low, ---, kevin, NEW, RFE: No mixer applet on XFCE desktop (F14 Beta RC3) In the past gnome-media was pulled in and we used the gnome-volume-control applet (which starts by default). Do we want to now pull that in again? Or just put xfce4-mixer in there? Or something else? Thoughts? kevin

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F14 RC3: WiFi problem on Samsung netbooks
by Ron Leach 03 Oct '10

03 Oct '10

List, another testing difficulty. Installed F14 RC3 XFCE from the CD-sized image released by Kevin on Sept 30. Netbook is Samsung NB30, and dual boots F14 RC3 or XPhome. WiFi is built-in; there is no physical on/off button for it, but a softkey combination, 'Function key' and F9, switch WiFi off and on in Windows XPhome. Under F14, Network manager does not seem to recognise any WiFi access points and, after adding some, still does not see them to connect to. The 'network icon' in the panel has a 'red cross' against it. I have also tried F13 XFCE spin (live CD) and F13 does not find the wireless system, either. If I connect a wired Ethernet cable, the network connects using the wired system. I wonder if the WiFi module is not switching on, or being switched on? On a different netbook, Acer AspireOne (on which F13 XFCE is installed), while F13 does find the inbuilt wireless system and lights a WiFi LED, the F14 RC3 XFCE liveCD does not find the wireless, and the WiFi LED on the AspireOne does not light. I'll do some more checks of dmesg to see how far F14 gets in finding the WiFi system. Are there other files I should check? regards, Ron

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