xfce January 2017

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Looking for new owners of my packages
by Christoph Wickert 30 Jan '17

30 Jan '17

Hi there, as (some of) you probably already have noticed, I have been a really lousy maintainer for the last 1-2 years. I am just too busy with my dayjob and in real life. Fortunately people like Kevin and Mukundan have stepped up and took care of my Xfce packages. Thank you, I really appreciate your help. In March of last year I joined SUSE. My idea was to do SUSE / Enterprise in my job and continue with Fedora / community as my hobby, but this doesn't really work out. You have to eat your own dog food and work with the community. I am no longer using Fedora on a daily basis, thus I shouldn't maintain it. I will step down form most Fedora roles, most importantly from my role as packager. I just realized that I had a various ACL requests from Mukundan, Robert and Michael pending in Package-DB. So far, I approved the requests for commit access from Mukundan because I have already worked with him, but I am unsure what to do with the others. Robert, Michael: Are you still interesting in (co-)maintaining the packages you applied for? Kevin, Mukundan: Who should become primary owner of the packages? And who of you four is willing to actually look after the packages, means who will take care of watchbugzilla and watchcommitts? I suggest we quickly discuss this here and then you apply for the privileges you want. I will approve your requests and then give up my privileges except for commit access. It's not like I'm completely gone. ;-) Best regards, Christoph

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Re: Looking for new owners of my packages
by Christoph Wickert 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

2017-01-29 11:13 GMT+01:00 Robert Mayr <robyduck(a)fedoraproject.org>: > > Hi Christoph, > sorry for the delay but I'm sick these days.... Get better soon! > And yes, I'm still interested to co-maintain these xfce packages. I haven't processed your requests because I think it is on Mukundan as the new owner. i'm sure he will approve your requests. > I'll take a look at other packages today. Thanks, I really appreciate your help. @All: Please have a look at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/cwickert/ and grab whatever you want. Plenty of lean GTK apps that fit the Xfce desktop nicely. Request ACLs as necessary. If you formally want to take ownership, please let me know by replying to this mail. Best regards, Christoph

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Review: Korona Live
by ToddAndMargo 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Hi All, Korora is a live spin Fedora Core 25 and Xfce 4.12. Its goal is to provide a working desktop right off the spin. https://kororaproject.org korora-live-xfce-25-x86_64.iso I had a customer call me who was running M$ Vista. Well Fargo bumped him for being unsupported by M$. [editorial comment] If Wells Fargo cared a wit about security, they wouldn't allow Internet Explorer or Windows for that matter at all, but ... [/editorial comment]. When I arrived, I found that his system had reverted to factory default. Everything was gone. He did not know what he did to cause this (he selected factory reinstall on boot in bios). So I showed him Korora live (it has ublock orgin in Firefox). He likes it and told me to put it on. Review: Pluses: It is a nice package with several of the things customer's use already loaded. Libre Office was a real plus as it is a large download. Minuses: 1) in an attempt to be cute, it is way, way too "artsy fartsy". The icons are not what you expect to see. You have to hover over them to see what they are. This is cute, but anti intuitive. They do not include the regular icons so you can change them back. 2) in desktop setting, I was unable to select an alternate file path for the back drops. The file system was grayed out. 3) Xfce Pol-Kit was not working. This means I had to fire up the printer setup utility from the command line as root. When run as a user, everything was grayed out and Xfce Pol-Kit did not prompt for elevation. The lack of elevation was not limited to the printer setup utility Next time, I will stick with the regular live spin. https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/#downloads I carry Libre Office with me on a stick, so its size is not a big issue. And I can easily dnf shotwell and kpat. That being said, the customer said his computer was multiple times faster and was tickled. He really only uses Firefox, and once he figured out the artsy farsty blur ball icon, he was very happy. -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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State of Xfce in Fedora - upstream defaults versus custom defaults
by Philippe Lemaire 28 Jan '17

28 Jan '17

Hello there, I'm a relatively new Fedora user, but I've been using Xfce on and off on several distros such as Xubuntu, Mint, Debian, and Arch. From my understanding, Fedora spins tend to provide desktop experiences that are close to the default setting for Gnome, Plasma, Xfce, and others. That's usually a reasonable approach, but in the case of Xfce, I think the defaults are horrible and give a wrong impression of a lackluster and ugly desktop environment. Defaults are usually used in release screenshots and in reviews, and if you compare Xubuntu and Fedora Xfce, you might get the impression that the latter is far less polished. The differences are technically minimal, but can make a bit difference for newcomers and reviewers. This morning I installed xfce on my fedora 25 base and I spent about 30 minutes configuring it to a state where it looks good (subjective), works like I want (highly subjective) and it now is a very pleasant experience. Here are some things in the settings I did that I feel should be default behavior, but are not : - Tile a window to the left / right with Super + Left / Right - Maximize a window with Super + Up - Don't drag a window across virtual desktops (since it clashes with snap to edge behavior) - Whisker menu - Don't change focus when you simply scroll over a window -Orage Time date plugin Can this kind of straight improvements be implemented in the spin, or has this already been discussed to death and rejected? Best regards,

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cannot change terminal shorcuts
by Viorel Tabara 26 Jan '17

26 Jan '17

Hello, In Terminal the shortcuts are grayed out and cannot be changed using menu accelerators. This works fine in Thunar. I did check that Enable Editable Accelerators is enabled [1], xfsettingsd is running and opened 9 tabs as instructed [2]. For now I've worked around the issue by directly editing accels.scm. Thanks. -- Viorel [1]:https://wiki.xfce.org/menu_accelerators [2]:http://docs.xfce.org/faq

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Introduction
by Stanislav Kontar 25 Jan '17

25 Jan '17

Hi all, I am new to this list. I started to use Fedora about year and half ago and Xfce is my DE of choice. It occurred to me that maybe it is about time for me to help a bit with Fedora efforts and I thought that starting slowly, maybe testing new versions of packages for the DE I like and use daily would be cool. I have a few questions for the start: * What would be the best way to get notified about new Xfce packages in testing repository? * Does anyone of you by any chance have a script or a list of packages needed to install on Fedora to be able to compile Xfce straight from Git? Thanks -- Stanislav Kontar

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live cd question
by ToddAndMargo 23 Jan '17

23 Jan '17

Hi All, I want to make of an Fedora 25 Xfce Live DVD for a customer. I want to add a Firefox icon to his desktop and add "ublock orgin" to Firefox. How would I do this? Many thanks, -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am Windows I am the Blue Screen of Death No one hears your screams ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Default notify position makes it hard to change volume, thoughts?
by Zamir Sun 06 Jan '17

06 Jan '17

Hi, So I've been annoyed by the default position of xfce4-notifyd for a while (since sometime in Fedora 24). When I try to change the volume from the volume plugin on the top right, the notify shows up and covers the volume control. Recent I filed a bug here[1]. Kevin thought this worth a discussion so I send this here. My current workaround is, either move the volume icon to somewhere else, or change the default position of notification. And this is not user friendly enough as it require the user to configure it themselves. So thoughts? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1408911 -- Ziqian SUN (Zamir) zsun(a)fedoraproject.org GPG : 1D86 6D4A 49CE 4BBD 72CF FCF5 D856 6E11 F2A0 525E Want to know more about Fedora? Visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

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Re: AppStream issues with various XFCE applications
by Mukundan Ragavan 05 Jan '17

05 Jan '17

On 01/05/2017 02:17 PM, Andrzej wrote: > On 05/01/17 11:40, Richard Hughes wrote: >> We've been looking at the AppStream extractor issues in Fedora, and >> we've come across a few broken XFCE applications. Broken apps are not >> visible in the Ubuntu, Fedora or OpenSUSE application installers. The >> apps include: >> >> * xfce4-power-manager >> * xfpanel-switch > > Downstream issue. Add an icon or fix your installer. > I am the downstream (Fedora) maintainer for both these packages. I can probably add icon (xfce4-power-manager-settings.svg) for xfpm. I will look into this. But the other package, xfpanel-switch provides no icon (upstream). There has been no response to my original bug report about adding an appdata file [1]. I am not going to make the icon (nor do I have the expertise) - so I am not sure what I am going to do about this. Perhaps, I will just have to live with xfpanel-switch not showing up on GNOME software. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfpanel-switch/+bug/1554273 -- GPG Key - E5C8BC67 -------

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