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by Terry Chandler 30 Sep '14

30 Sep '14

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Video w/out flash??
by Beartooth 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

Running Qupzilla (installed by yum) under fully updated F20/Xfce4, and with that supposedly flash-replacing video installed (I can't recall its name right now), I still get only offers to install flash. How do I tell my browsers to use the other thing?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.

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Fedora 21 Alpha RC testing request
by Adam Williamson 16 Sep '14

16 Sep '14

Hi, folks! In case anyone didn't see it elsewhere, we put 21 Alpha RC1 out for testing today. It still has some kinks, but we really need to make sure we have a reasonably complete test run on it and catch any remaining blockers. If folks could help test particularly in their own areas of interest, that'd be great. The images can be found at https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/21_Alpha_RC1/ - it's a fairly big tree and the folder layout is still a bit of a work-in-progress, sorry if you have to click around until you find something. The test pages are: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Base https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Desktop https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Alpha_RC1_Server to test, basically, pick a test case from (one of) the table(s), run it, and edit your result into the appropriate table cell using the {{result}} macro - short version, {{result|pass|adamwill}} is a pass, {{result|warn|adamwill|123456}} is a warning (aka the compromise between 'pass' and 'fail' - use it for things that aren't exactly critical fails but are worth noting), and {{result|fail|adamwill|654321}} is a failure. The number should be a Bugzilla bug #. Please file bugs for failures; if the bug's serious, propose it as a release blocker by setting it to block the bug 'AlphaBlocker' or using the blocker bug webapp at https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug . Each test case has a link to the release criteria that it enforces at the top - you can refer to this in proposing the blocker. But please err on the side of nominating bugs as blockers, we'd rather have a few to reject than miss one we should have blocked for. Rejections do not go on your permanent record :) The test cases have milestones listed alongside them in the tables. Do the tests marked 'Alpha' first, then the ones marked 'Beta', then the ones marked 'Final', and the ones with no milestone come last (these are optional tests that aren't usually expected to encounter release blocking issues). Later composes may follow - please do help test those too. We need to run all the Alpha tests against at least one of the release composes (ideally we'd run them all against all the RCs). Thanks a lot folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Input signal out of range
by Beartooth 13 Sep '14

13 Sep '14

I have F20/Xfce4 installed, more or less successfully I *think* on an old Dell SC1420 Poweredge. (This machine was built as a server, and served in that capacity for some years; then I passed to me, and I had a hardware-savvy friend do whatever changed it from the lockstep backup of one drive on the other to an ordinary configuration without that security but with twice the storage.) I have run maybe half a dozen Fedora releases on it, without any monitor trouble. The PC is so old that the media drive takes only CDs, and not DVDs; but when the zodiac of the matter aligns just right, I can use a net install CD to get it to read an external USB drive with an install DVD in it. In case it matters, I did that in the present instance. Also it sits behind a KVM switch. Today it tells me it can't see my HP w2207h 22" 1680x1050 flat panel monitor. Yesterday, when it said that, I tried again, logging in as root instead of user -- and it worked. Today neither works; but I can at least still ssh to it from another PC on my LAN. Otoh, telling it xrandr as root fails. Time was, back in the days of single-digit Fedora releases, when every fresh install meant shutting down all the machines behind the KVM switch, and hooking the one being installed to directly to all the peripherals. I have a sneakin' hunch that would work now -- and, now that I have a laptop and a tablet, not cut me off from the Net. But it would still be a great hassle, and a needless one if the problem could be fixed by adding 1680x1050 into some xorg file. If I could tell in advance *what* file. Anybody know offhand? Mousing around / etc/X11 isn't getting me anywhere that I can understand. Or is the lesser evil just to shut everything down, and try the old way? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.

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Some space pruning on Xfce spin
by Kevin Fenzi 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Greetings. I did a bit of pruning today on the Xfce spin, as it had gotten way way over sized. +-adobe-source-han-* # save 94MB +-rodent-icon-theme # save 34MB +-skkdic # save 25MB +-naver-nanum-gothic-fonts # save 14MB I also remove liferea from the comps group (this pulled in webkitgtk3 and should save us a good bit of room) I also added evince (we had no pdf reader and it was pretty small) and gvfs-archive. I suspect we will still be over, but we can see tomorrow how much and see what we might be able to further adjust. kevin

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Obnoxious window management
by Beartooth 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

When I open an app in a new window, then start arranging it on the workspace it's in, I want two abilities. One is to be able to size each window (including any already there) with the mouse, to any size and shape I find convenient. The other is to be able to position it anywhere I please -- if I have more than two, I get very picky about how I cascade them (if that's the word), so that from then on I don't have to tolerate being distracted by arrangement any more. These abilities have always been SOP. Even on foul OSs. Till now. Suddenly, if I get one edge of a window within an inch or so of the edge of the display (not counting panels), it jumps over to that edge, and refuses arrantly to stay put. I suspect this obnoxiousness may be called by the new term "snap." Whatever it is, how do I get it off my machine, and keep it off? I'm running XFCE4 under F20, if that matters.

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