xfce February 2010

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new time slots for the Xfce SIG meetings
by Christoph Wickert 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

I had to start the poll about the Xfce SIG meeting time all over again, because we had some invalid votes that I could not delete. If you are interested in joining our meetings, please enter your favorite times at http://whenisgood.net/xfce-sig Results are visible at http://whenisgood.net/xfce-sig/results/sezb58 Regards, Christoph

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Welcome to the Fedora Xfce list
by Kevin Fenzi 12 Mar '10

12 Mar '10

Greetings everyone. Welcome to the Fedora Xfce list. I'd like to use this list to coordinate Xfce SIG activities and discuss Xfce in Fedora. User comments/suggestions welcome as well as developer input. :) I'd like to start doing SIG meetings on IRC around once a month as well. Christoph has setup a matix for people to say when they might best be available. If you are interested in attending, please go fill out: http://whenisgood.net/xfce-sig Hopefully this will make it easier to get feedback from users and new people helping out. Thanks! kevin

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Board SWG questions for Spins Owners
by Matt Domsch 24 Feb '10

24 Feb '10

These questions were originally posted to the Spins SIG a couple weeks ago. At the following SIG meeting, members suggested that these questions would be better posed to the individual spin owners, or teams that are working on the spins, in addition to the SIG. I have collected the mailing lists and individual spin owner names for all spins, current or historical, and included you in this mail. As a Fedora contributor with specific interest in using Spins as a method to reach specific audiences or cater to specific use cases, you are uniquely qualified to answer these questions. Your time to thoughtfully answer is appreciated. As you may be aware, the Fedora Project Board is trying to set a more clear vision for what Fedora is, and should be going forward. One aspect of this conversation is Fedora's target audience. As Spins and Remixes specifically seek to use Fedora to reach a particular audience or cater to specific use cases, we seek your input to help guide our thinking. Your responses to these questions would be appreciated. Fellow Board member Colin Walters and I have agreed to poll the Spins and report back to the Strategic Working Group and the Board as a whole. Board-level Question: Can Spins/SIGS or Fedora remixes define their own target audience? Background The Board has been working on defining a target audience for Fedora. In response to this, some people feel that Fedora should allow sub-groups to define their own target audience. Or even more strongly that Spins/SIGs should be the only groups defining target audience; in other words, the Board should not be defining one. An example mail supporting this position is this mail from Toshio [1]. However, the potential conflict between a Board target audience and a SIG target audience is still theoretical. No SIG appears to have explicitly disagreed with the "working" target audience proposal. Possible Solutions 1. Board sets target audience broadly, spins tailor to a subset thereof. 2. Board sets target audience broadly, spins tailor to either a subset thereof, or to additional audiences outside that scope so long as there are no conflicts. 3. Board does not set target audience, leaves it to each Spin to set their specific target audience. 1. requires spins to be much more than consumers of Fedora content. 2. audience of some spins may overlap. That's OK. 3. audience of some spins may technically conflict. How to resolve conflicts? Spins -> FESCo -> Board. As members contributing to Spins, how do you view the above, and how would you like to see Spins interact with the larger Project with respect to defining target audiences? Board-level Question: Can Spins/SIGS or Fedora remixes change the code enough to meet their goals? Background In the present situation, Spins must take all of their content from the official Fedora repositories. Remixes may take content from wherever, and modify as they see fit, but may not use the primary Fedora trademarks. Questions for Spins and the Spins SIG Given the present situation: 1. Has any Spin found the present situation unduly restrictive? 1. If so, how specifically? 2. Has any Spin found they cannot address their target audience properly? 1. If so, in what way? 2. Is the root problem that all packages must be in the official repositories? 3. How are you addressing this today? 4. How would you like to address this in the future? 5. Are the resources you would need readily available? 1. If not, what would you need to properly address this? 6. Is the transition from "Spin" to "Remix" onerous? 1. If so, what can be done to make it less so? [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2009-October/007430… Thanks, Matt & Colin

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Spins Freeze tomorrow, are we happy with the application selection?
by Adam Miller 17 Feb '10

17 Feb '10

Hello all, As suggested by the subject line, the spins freeze is tomorrow and I wanted to take a moment to make sure we are all happy with the current application selection and general current state of the Xfce Spin. Once the freeze happens I will be putting together a QA plan for a Xfce Spin Test Day based on the application layout (and other modifications) for the F13 Xfce Spin. Just wanted to see what peoples thoughts were on this topic. -AdamM -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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Building my own livecd
by Suvayu Ali 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

Hi XFCE users, I was trying to build my own F12 x86_64 XFCE LiveCD with some compilers and bash completions but I am having some problems. I started with the kickstarts available on fedora hosted, fedora-livecd-xfce.ks fedora-live-base.ks I have a CD which supports a maximum of 700 MBs, so I reduced the --size argument to part to 2772, removed @fonts and included only three of my favourite fonts. I removed some more default packages to make space for emacs, gcc, gcc-c++, and bash-completion. I then included some edits to the %post section of the xfce kickstart to turn on bash-completions. Composing against the F12 release and updates repos, I get a 715 MB image. When I boot the disc with KVM I can't switch to root, it asks me for the root password. What could be going wrong? Thanks for any insights. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.

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Default Xfce documentation
by Nathan Thomas 02 Feb '10

02 Feb '10

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