marketing November 2005

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Selling systems with Fedora preloaded.
by Gain Paolo Mureddu 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I posted this on http//www.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=86543 and at Rahul Sundaram's suggestion/request I'm posting this here also. The verbatim copy of the posted test follows: - ---- Begin Original Text ---- A friend of mine for whom I built a system, recently approached me and asked me why didn't I started selling Linux based PCs... My primary field of work is not system building or integration, but what moved the most was what he said regarding the predominant position or a certain company from north-western US, and I'm like (sarcastic) "Yeah, let's sell Wallmart's $300 USD PCs! Jeeze!" That started a discution which turned into a plausible plan to kickstart (or at least try to, anyway) a company, however I have some questions. Anyway I'm affraid I may end up sending a couple e-mails to the lawyers in Red Hat to better grasp this. Well the plan is simply that: Build and put together Linux PCs and then sell them. That's the basic idea. Now I've got some questions: *) How far could we (if we walk down this path, anyway) modify the default Fedora installation to better fit customers? (installing some Extras packages and maybe Flash/RealPlayer/mPlayer/Xine; 32-bit apps for backwards compatibility on 64-bit Linux boxes) *) As far as Look'n'Feel go, would there be problems if the default desktop settings are changed a bit (theme, icon set, color schemes)? *) Even though Fedora does not ship with them, could we be able to deliver the built systems with all necesary drivers, provided a warning in the manual that stated the drivers are not part of the distro DVD the customers will get, with instructions on how to get them and install them? *) The cost of the systems would be based only on the price for the hardware, being the software totally free, and possibly a small fee for support (for instance 30 bucks for 6 months of extended support and installation help). We've not completely outlined the systems we'd be offering, but they'd all be x86_64 based (and we yet have to decide whether to install 64-bit versions or 32-bit of the OS). I know we could be using other distributions which would allow us to have the systems installed that way, but we'd like to stay with Fedora (since we both use Fedora and like it above other distros). We are aware of the legal issues surrounding applications, especially multimedia apps, I'm more worried about hardware dirvers and the like, though. We are also pondering (if the multimedia apps is such a pitfall) to only provide in the documentation instructions on how to install such programs, but probably we would like to know also if there would be any problems by having other repositories (like Livna) configured in the systems. I appreciate your comments and I'm very excited about this project. Maybe we could manage to at least place Linux a bit higher down here in Mex. Though we are thinking on offering pretty much higher-end systems and probably Workstations. - ---- End of Original Text ---- I know that this may bring some legal issues. But first I feel compelled to carify some of what I wrote up there. First and foremost, the only modifications planned to the "default" installation would be regarding theme and icons, however not modifying the Red Hat/Fedora logo for the menu entries (it'd be a custom icon-theme that we plan on releasing on art-gnome.org, gnome-look.org and if we manage to make one, an RPM for Extras). No other logos/trademarks would be removed from the installation. In the event there would be a problem by providing any of the other packages (Flash/RealPlayer/etc), how about providing only selected programs from Extras? Or would the users be required to get the Extras programs they want from Extras, leaving only a default install of Core? As I said above, I'm especially worried about device drivers. At the moment I'm going through all the material there's at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal, just wanted to post this earlier (while I still read) so you guys cand advise. Thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDihLrXM+XOp70dwoRAoTwAJ9flRwJRq+NmVNEjurrRgQRh47oCACcDLwP tdUgnT5UDgnUV7bGVQDELfE= =2oUy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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foss.in - Open Source Conference, Banglore - India
by Rahul Sundaram 03 Dec '05

03 Dec '05

Hi foss.in is a open source conference in Banglore, India. See http://foss.in/2005/ for details. I will be travelling to Banglore today and planning to attend the conference in all the four days. Tejas is giving a speech on "Fedora - Bleeding Edge Culture". Myself and a few others will be in the Fedora stall. We will giving out handouts based on the talking points. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints Possibly a few demonstrations and BOF's. I will report back on my impressions later. regards Rahul

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Brazilian LiveCD
by Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Fedora Core 4 LiveCD Created by SERPRO ( Company of Technology - Brazilian Government ) Download: http://www.serpro.gov.br/arquivosdownload/Fedora4-LiveCD.iso - -- +================================================+ RODRIGO PADULA DE OLIVEIRA (o- BACHAREL EM SISTEMAS DE INFORMAÇÃO //\ FACULDADE METODISTA GRANBERY - FMG V_/_ PostgreSQL - PHP - Java - Fedora +================================================+ Embaixador do Fedora no Brasil Membro Fundador do Gunix Linux http://www.gunix.com.br -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDjIyu8arYxsJpZ0URAhUTAKDFhbO9LLKma5NBb8fz+O5zcrWeTACfSAwO ZPGWpjqNZhkSBGM5HoZKl1U= =QNzt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketingCategoryMarketing
by Hornain Frederic 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Dear Chris, dear *, Indeed I was not aware of what has been wrotten by Paul W. at the following URL : http://www.redhat.com/magazine/013nov05/features/bookreview/ I have just objectively listed all Fedora books I knew. Even if I know I have to reorder it in alphabetical order. In addition, in reading the Fedora books reviews of Paul W. I noticed I missed one or two. However, I do not know for the moment if I can include General Linux books. I am going to ask the question and keep you in touch Chris. Finally and FYI, I do not think that I can permit myself to rated it. So maybe, I could contact Paul W. in order to know if he can help me to do it Does someone know his email address ? BR Fred Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -----Original Message----- From: fedora-marketing-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [mailto:fedora-marketing-list-bounces@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Jesse Keating Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:29 AM To: fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com Subject: RE: CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketingCategoryMarketing On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 20:44 -0600, Chris Negus wrote: > Thanks for including a couple of my books in your list. A couple other > books I have written are based on Fedora. I wasn't sure if you wanted to > include books that don't have Fedora in the title. > > Fedora was the primary distro used in the Linux Troubleshooting Bible. > Also, for Linux Toys II, which just came out, most of the projects were > built on FC4 (we included RPMs packaged for Fedora with the book). Hi Chris. Check out http://www.redhat.com/magazine/013nov05/features/bookreview/ You'll see that we (and by we I mean mostly you) get a very favorable review. Paul, thanks for the writeup! -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

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RE: CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing
by Hornain Frederic 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Hi, Thanks for you remarks Chitlesh. Well, I think it is fixed now. Following the Brain Dump List I have done a non-exhaustive of Books related to Fedora topic at the following URL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Books If you have any remarks feel free to contact me. BR Fred Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com -----Original Message----- From: Chitlesh GOORAH [mailto:cgoorah@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:32 PM To: Hornain Frederic Subject: CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing CategoryMarketing Hello Frederic Hornain, I've noticed that you have made changes to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Books but the last line CategoryMarketing <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryMarketing> CategoryMarketing <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryMarketing> CategoryMarketing <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryMarketing> CategoryMarketing <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryMarketing> doesn't seem appropriate. maybe its just copy-paste. take care Chitlesh GOORAH Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

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Boston FUDCon 2006
by Matthew Miller 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

We are preliminarily "go" for FUDCon Boston 2006, on April 7th, after the big LinuxWorld Conference & Expo. Apparently, that conference has moved to Boston Convention & Exhibition Center, which isn't quite as convenient to BU as the Hynes Convention Center (last year's LW Conf&Expo location). However, it's still a relatively easy trip on public transportation. Well, mostly -- it involves a very short ride on the Silver Line (which has a stop right at the BCEC), a very short ride on the Red Line, and a medium-length ride on the Green B Line. (As opposed to last year's short trip on the Green B Line, or even walking.) Since we'll have more advance planning this time around, we should be able to accommodate more people -- probably around 180. -- Matthew Miller mattdm(a)mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>

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tshirts
by Dunrite Printing 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

I was at fedoraforum.org reading about the t-shirts that are available from expresscafe, and someone referred me to this list. I am interested in printing t-shirts for fedora. I have been in and out of the project since it started, and I recently just got back into it with core 4. I am 34 years old, an IT administrator by day, and I own a Screen Printing business on the side. I have been in the printing industry for almost ten years, and owned the screen printing business for about 5 years going on 6. Anyways, this is not a hopeless plug for business, I don't need additional business, I stay busy enough, but I do believe in the quality of the shirts my shop can produce, and I want a high quality shirt available for not only myself, but everyone. You can check out my webpage if you want to know about my business. Keep in mind I do not update the website or even sell off it anymore, I normally stick with resellers, schools, fire houses etc. A couple of my bigger clients right now are Coke and Little Caesars. I am the screen printer, I have a couple of people that work for me, but there would be no middleman, and I would be printing the shirts myself, so the quality would be guaranteed. We could also have other than white colored t-shirts, since this is a real screen printing process, not an inkjet or anything like that. How could I find out more about who I should talk to about printing t-shirts?

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Fedora Core 5 test 1 : Press
by Rahul Sundaram 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Hi http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive Not sure if thats the right place but I have added some announcements and a review to the list. If you find any important press especially non-English content, feel free to add them. If you can do a translation to English or even a short summary, that would be great. regards Rahul

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Security features
by Dawid Gajownik 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

Hi! I've been reading recently lwn.net and I've found this article → http://lwn.net/Articles/160380/ I knew about this patch restricting acces to /dev/mem but I did not know that it prevents rootkits! IMHO this should be mentioned in the Release Notes: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/test1-latest-en/#sn-security Actually, there should be more hype about Fedora's security features¹. For instance, FC5 uses Stack Smashing Protector. I think that it's worth mentioning it in the Announcement of Fedora Core 5². Information about updated KDE, Gnome, kernel, etc. will not encourage users to change the distribution. I know that it's also important, but only cool new features may change their decisions :) Without it we will see more Fedora's reviews similar to this: "The wallpaper is the same. Nothing to see here, move along." ;) ¹ Yes, I know about SELinux, but why not to tell people about other technologies? ² http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2005-November/msg00064.… Regards, Dawid -- ^_*

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Impressions: Fedora Core 5 Test 1
by Rahul Sundaram 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

Hi http://www.distroreviews.com/index.php?view=296 Comments? regards Rahul

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