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Feedback on "The ups and downs of Fedora 10"
by Rahul Sundaram 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi Northbear, I came across your short review of Fedora 10 at http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&aid=498 Thank for your review. I would like to add some comments to provide more information and correct a few inaccuracies in your article. You claim that the installation is almost exactly same as Fedora 8. Apart from resizing support you have noted, it seems that you have missed out a number of other changes. These are covered in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Installer.html#sn-C… http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Insta… "Well, Fedora/RedHat has always been very picky about letting in software that might be "tainted", so there's no way that the resize code will work on NTFS filesystems." This is incorrect. As noted, in your review, your are commenting about something without even trying it. Fedora has included comprehensive NTFS support for quite a few releases now and has also supported resizing Windows partitions from Fedora 9 onwards. "Whoa! The new "Plymouth" loader is fast! You won't get much in the way of fancy graphics during bootup unless you have a video chipset that is supported with "kernel mode" (currently only some Intel chipsets)." This is only partially correct. Plymouth relies on kernel mode setting support but that is available only for ATI cards and not for Intel ones. Intel was supported in between but there is a rewrite going on in upstream and is still disabled in the general release. You can however get fancy graphics by using vga=0x318 or vga=ask and choosing a appropriate mode which would make Plymouth use framebuffer instead of KMS to display a very cool bootup screen. There is a rewrite of GDM and currently. http://live.gnome.org/GDM/NewDesign it just inherits the system settings and does not have separate theming support. The roadmap for changes is at http://live.gnome.org/GDM/ For the Xorg autoconfiguration, we don't need to fallback into manual settings again but instead add the specific hardware information to a database and use that for automatically doing the right thing even if the hardware is old or using analog connections as yours does. Please file a bug report in http://bugzilla.redhat.com with the output of /var/log/Xorg.log. We can fix this and send the fix upstream for the benefit for all distributions as well. KDE 4: Again, would be quite useful to get bug report to keep track of the issues and address them PackageKit: The PackageKit daemon is not a regular service and hence it is not managed by the service administration gui. It is a system activated daemon and automatically starts on demand and stops as soon as the task is done. It would be great if you could update your review to include all these information and provide us with some bug reports on the warts you have noted. Once again, thank you for your review. We appreciate your input. Rahul

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Fedora Brazil Magazine #4 released
by Henrique Junior 01 Jan '09

01 Jan '09

To end 2008 with a cherry on top, the Fedora Project is glad to announce the release of the 4th issue of Fedora Brazil Magazine. This issue brings a editorial written by Augusto Campos, who draws a retrospective review of Fedora's 5 years and he presents a picture of how it changed the Linux Distributions ecosystem after Fedora's first release announcement. Furthermore, the magazine displays a special approach to the brand new Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and simply way all new features and changes of this new release. Enjoy yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil Magazine's promotion and compete for a copy of the book "*Java – Fundamentos, prática & certificação*", by Adilson Bonanovisk. Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux mysteries, headshots in Urban Terror game and an unfailing walkthrough to build your own Fedora up. And there's a lot more, 66 pages where variety won't be a problem. Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link below: http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/RevistaFedoraBrasil004.pdf P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January. -- Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior http://www.lonelyspooky.com ------------------------------------------------------------- "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!"

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Interview with HSIB
by Jeroen van Meeuwen 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Hey there, I was interviewed by HowSoftwareIsBuilt.com a few weeks ago; the interview's transcript is online now; http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2008/12/21/interview-with-jeroen-van-meeuwen-… Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip

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Fedora Media for North America
by Clint Savage 27 Dec '08

27 Dec '08

As posted on my blog[0] today, I'd like to make the following announcement and provide information to help North American Ambassadors. The Fedora Live CDs arrived this past week, right in time for Christmas. They look great. (see http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media/) If you are interested in obtaining some pressed media to distribute at an event or Local User Group (LUG), please make a request on the new FAmNA Resource Request tracker[1]. (A special thanks to Jon Stanley for setting this up.) Make sure to include the following information (at minimum): * Name and Address * The number of LiveCDs you'd like - Currently, we only have 32-bit LiveCDs. The order has been placed for 32-bit and 64-bit install media, delivery is expected around mid-January. When this media arrives, I will announce the availability. * A short explanation of your request and how it might promote Fedora * Phone Number (optional) * How you would like the shipped (Choose Ground unless you can justify faster shipping) * Your region (shown as component) - Do Not assign the task to anyone, it is automatically assigned to the correct person based upon region. In addition, you will likely get a 'TICKET_VIEW privileges are required to perform this operation' error. We do this because we are asking for mailing addresses and do not wish to share them with anyone else. Check your email, if you received a confirmation of the ticket, it has been filed and we'll address it as quickly as possible. If you are interested in who is getting your request, you may wish to head on over to the North America regional list[2]. If you are an Event Owner for Q4 2009, please do not send requests. Events are handled by the FedoraEvents[3] page. We are aware of the events and will coordinate with you individually. In addition, at the upcoming FUDCon[4], we'll be building an AmbassadorKit[5]. The AmbassadorKit is designed to be a small package delivered to any Fedora contributor who wishes to spread Fedora. The AmbassadorKit will include the following (at minimum): * Between 10 and 20 bits of Media (LiveCDs, DVDs) * A display box for holding media * One or Two Fedora t-shirts * A few sheets of Fedora Stickers * Fedora Buttons Other items can be included in the AmbassadorKit, such as: * Fedora Temporary Tattoos (while supplies last) * Fedora LiveUSBs (in the future, or if some sponsor would like to donate them hint hint) * Anything else you can think of that would be useful for promoting Fedora. Once the AmbassadorKits are designed and can easily be built and delivered, we will add them to the FAmNA Resource Request tracker so they can also be requested. I look forward to delivering massive amounts of media over the next few months to those who need it. Cheers, Clint 0 - http://sexysexypenguins.com 1 - https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ 2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions 3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 4 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 5 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorKit

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Happy Holidays
by Jack Aboutboul 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

Hey All, I just wanted to wish everyone a very happy holiday season. I've been quiet the last few days since I've been on a vacation and self-imposed computer ban (I'm cheating now) which continues until early January. I hope to catch up on everything then, and continue to work with everyone to plow full steam ahead on all the great stuff we've been planning and doing.... Good Tidings and a Happy New Year, Jack

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SCaLE 7x Booth Preparations
by Clint Savage 25 Dec '08

25 Dec '08

Marketers and Ambassadors, I've taken on the responsibility (along with Larry Cafiero) of manning and supporting the fedora booth at SCALE7x this year. For those of you who have not been or heard of SCaLE, it's the Southern California Linux Exposition and it's held at the Westin near the LAX airport every year. Last year's booth[1] was awesome. It was my first real induction helping at events sponsored by Fedora. SCaLE is Friday, Saturday and Sunday, February 20-22, 2009, and while that seems a long while off, two months go by quickly. If you can commit to taking the time, we'd love to have you help out at the booth. I believe the admission price is 50% off (normal price is $60) for those who help at the booth, and possibly for every Fedora contributor (more info to come on this later). This year looks to be an even greater year for Fedora, with a big movement of Ambassadors in North America, SCaLE promises to be a big success for us again. The booth this year is again looking for volunteers and we need to fill the three days from 9am to 5pm, so if you are interested in helping, let us know by signing up at the SCALE7x wiki page[2]. In addition, I'd like to see some new banners to put into the Fedora EventBox[3] and some posters for the four f's (this is indeed our new mantra) as well. I know this art is already created, we just need to get it in place. Thus, I suggest we update the EventBox(en) out there with these materials ASAP. I've seen discussion of this in IRC and mailing lists. If you know anything about this, please respond here with that information as well. I look forward to a very successful year of Fedora Events, starting with SCaLE 7x. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE/SCALE6X 2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event 3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox/NA/West

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re: Picture Book
by Doug Berry 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Hey guys, It must be the Holidays, I have contacted a dozen or so publishers, but I am totally not hearing from anyone. Usually these people treat anyone interested like a ham in the Amazon; with them as the piranha. Ian Weller wrote: we can pretty much do anything with the design, I would like to NOT have to pages with the same layout: one on top, another on bottom, another on side, another on the other side, maybe another over the photo... each with its own height or width. Exactly, we can basically do anything. We can bring web graphics to book-form. We don't have to use a lot of color; or we can do all color. Color text, pictures, widgets, borders and shaded areas, superimposed text or thought bubbles on top of the pictures. And we don't have make it a bound book. We could do a magazine, or bound magazine sized book. Or think corporate report type book; some of these are artworks, and of course, executive types are not going to want to look at Xerox copies. The point is anything you can do on a rectangular computer screen, you can do on a rectangular book page. Or square, sans the LOVE Book. A couple of other considerations: Release forms: I (not a lawyer) do not think we will need them. Under the Book version of the Copy Right Laws, there is the Fair Use Exception. One aspect of it is: if you go to a public event, where it can be reasonably assumed there will be photographers taking photographs, and you get your picture taken, you do not have a case. And there is always the quick aural release form, as long as you have a witness. Captions under photos: When we use a photo we should note the photographer's name and try to identify the people in the photo if possible. Captions can be small text and could be something like: A photo by Mairin Duffy, shows Ian Weller, at a recent FUDCON, explaining the Anaconda Installer to a crowd of enthralled passersby. The more names we get into the book the more personal it will become for the reader. Ian mentioned, and something we will have to work out is a way or place for people to submit their photos and stories. We can set up an on line drop (can we use fpaste for that?) and then send an announcement to all the Red Hat lists, Open Submission for two weeks or 300 photos, which ever come first. Someone with expertise will have to handle the logistics on that. Then those of us listed on the Picture Book wiki ( or any others ), can each choose our favorites, then meet sometime on #fedora-meeting to hash it out. Remember, anything I suggest here or anywhere is optional. This should totally be a team effort with input from everybody -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee(a)fedoraproject.org

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Marketing Plan Virtual Hackfest
by Larry Cafiero 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Hi Folks -- As outlined in last week's Marketing meeting, the marketing folks are holding a Marketing Plan Virtual Hackfest in #fedora-meeting at 7 p.m. Eastern U.S. on Tuesday, 12/23 -- that's 0:00 UTC on Wednesday 12/24. Hope you all can make it. Larry Cafiero

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So for my next trick...... songfight
by Jef Spaleta 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

I love songfight.org I would love to see a Fedora themed songfight at songfight.org, complete with album cover fight. I do not know yet how difficult this would be to make happen, or even if songfight.org would be willing to sponsor it. I could reach out to them if we thought this was a good idea. Note that typically songfight.org doesn't put any sort of copyright restrictions on submissions. I would imagine that if we wanted to make a Fedora themed fight, and they were willing to help us do it, we'd need to impose some specific CC licensing restrictions. This sort of thing may require some negotiation with them if we need them to host the interface for the 'fight'. I have no idea if this is possible, I'm just throwing it out there as something I'm willing to work towards making happen if there is some consensus that its a good idea to do from a brand building perspective. Failing that, I would LOVE to see a Fedora branded catalog offering in Magnatunes or Jamendo similar to the Red Hat Summit Compilation that exists in Magnatunes currently. Open up rhythmbox, search the Magnatunes catelog for Red Hat and take a listen. But again I have no idea how to make that sort of thing happen as part of a Fedora branded thing. if there are some Red Hat marketting people lurking who were part of getting the Summit Compilation together, your input as to the feasibility of this idea is perhaps invaluably value. -jef

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Schedule hackfest
by Paul W. Frields 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Hello Artwork, Docs, L10n, Marketing, and Websites teams! First, I hope you all have a happy holiday season, and enjoy some time with friends, family, and loved ones. We've had a really big year in Fedora and I am so incredibly proud to have worked with all of you each day. We've pushed out two incredibly great releases of Fedora this year, Fedora 9 and 10, each stronger than the one before. As we are now deeply into the Fedora 11 development cycle, I've been thinking we really all want to know the various team interdependencies before we get to the Alpha phase of the release. If one team has a particular deadline, and that requires input from some other team to complete, we want to know that. In the best possible world, each team will be producing what its partner needs in plenty of time for that partner team to work effectively, and so on down the line. We've had release day planning meetings over the last couple of releases which have helped, I think, quite a bit to ensure people have what they need from other groups. We have an opportunity to make this process work even more smoothly, and driven more by each team, if we can figure out the very broad tasks that each team has to complete for a release, and map them out on the release schedule. Some of the teams receiving this message have done preliminary (or maybe even more) work on the schedule already, which is fantastic. I think FUDCon gives us a chance to bring together people from most of your teams to flesh that work out where it's helpful. I don't believe we need to "finish" the schedule, and that might be a hazy goal anyway. We'll probably end up finding places where we can refine it after this release to do even better for Fedora 12. But each iteration brings us something that we can use to help releases go more smoothly. Many of us are volunteers, and we all still want to know, first and foremost, that our work is important, and valued in Fedora. The work we do is far more important than simply hitting a date on a calendar. But we also all want to know that we are helping our fellow community members, and that each of us is doing our best to help Fedora move forward as a project. I've asked John Poelstra to help me put together a hackfest at FUDCon Boston 2009, bringing together people from each of your teams to talk through these interdependencies and record them. The result, I believe, will make each succeeding release easier, more efficient, and more enjoyable. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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